My understanding is that for a major motion picture, the composer starts preparing the score shortly after shooting starts. He reviews the script and then the daily rushes and prepares snippets of music for the director's approval. Then he starts working with the performer for the title music in order to incorporate elements of that into the score. The writing of the score is finished shortly after filming is finished and the recording of the score is finished about half-way through post-production so it can be included in the final edits. Since the release date is in early April, recording of the score would have to be finished by late January at the latest. Remember that the film industry takes off mid-December through the first week in January.
I don't see a new composer writing and recording a complete score for a 150-minute movie in 6-8 weeks.
If the story is true (I don't think it is), the film's release date would have to be put off again if Romer has left/been dismissed.
I am also getting the feeling that story of Romer leaving is just not true. However, even if it were, I don't believe that EON would delay release once again. It might not be an ideal time frame, but I have to believe a composer could come in and knock out a Bond score in 6 to 8 weeks. Seasoned pro session musicians can get things in the can in one or two takes plus editing and correcting mistakes or just about anything you want to do can be accomplished much quicker with digital recording and editing programs like Pro Tools.
James Horner famously only had a few weeks to do the score for Aliens, which is why he recycled a lot from previous soundtracks, such as his Star Trek films. It all depends on the project and the composer.
One of my former students said he worked for Hans Zimmer, who I'm told is always working on multiple projects because if he doesn't, he knows the studios will find someone cheaper who sounds like him. He also farms out some work or has other composers approach him and essentially purchases the music from them. If he uses it without much alteration, he gives some credit to the original composer. I don't know how accurate this story is, so I wouldn't swear by it, but the student seemed reasonably credible and claimed it to be true.
One of my former students said he worked for Hans Zimmer, who I'm told is always working on multiple projects because if he doesn't, he knows the studios will find someone cheaper who sounds like him. He also farms out some work or has other composers approach him and essentially purchases the music from them. If he uses it without much alteration, he gives some credit to the original composer. I don't know how accurate this story is, so I wouldn't swear by it, but the student seemed reasonably credible and claimed it to be true.
Sounds about right, the last Zimmer score that was solely written by him without a dozen ghost composers was Interstellar.
So, we've had on the @007 Twitter account, a Spectre NTTD post on 2 November, a Saturday, and yesterday, a Skyfall NTTD post (6 Nov Wednesday). Is this a pattern?
Are we going to see a Quantum NTTD post on 10 November, this Sunday, and then a Casino NTTD post on 14 November (Thursday)?
Could that mean the NTTD teaser on Monday 18 November?
Still nothing, so far today, on the BBFC website. With 3 of the previous 4 DC films having 7-11 days between a BBFC announcement and the teaser trailer drop, it would seem that no BBFC approval today would make a teaser next week highly unlikely.
Titan Books have announced they are publishing the official making of book for No Time To Die. This lavish coffee table book takes readers behind the scenes of the 25th official James Bond film and reveals the locations, characters, gadgets, weapons, and cars of No Time To Die with exclusive on-set photography, concept art, costume designs, and more, accompanied by cast and crew interviews.
Written by New York Times best-selling author Mark Salisbury, No Time To Die: The Making of the Film is set to publish in hardback on 14 April 2020, priced at $50 and £39.99.
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@ Red _ Snow: Sounds good, I will defiantly have to pick up a copy of the book for my collection. I have quite a few other making of books (many of which are out of print) of the respective movies in the series and I have really enjoyed reading them all.
I'm starting to worry they're overselling the #MeToo aspect of NTTD. Sometimes it's difficult to see what comes directly from the people making the film and what's the press' interpretation of it, but I don't think #MeToo should be mentioned unless there is a direct question about it. Just make a good movie with interesting characters regardless of what gender they are. Th filmmakers should say things like: "Lashana Lynch is 007 at the start of the movie because it works really well for the story and she's a great actress!" If this is done correctly, both people who are into that movement and the general audience will watch the film and enjoy it.
I'm starting to worry they're overselling the #MeToo aspect of NTTD. Sometimes it's difficult to see what comes directly from the people making the film and what's the press' interpretation of it, but I don't think #MeToo should be mentioned unless there is a direct question about it. Just make a good movie with interesting characters regardless of what gender they are. Th filmmakers should say things like: "Lashana Lynch is 007 at the start of the movie because it works really well for the story and she's a great actress!" If this is done correctly, both people who are into that movement and the general audience will watch the film and enjoy it.
I agree with what you are saying......but......don't let the nonsense that the Tabs put out there twist your head (or put put your nickers in a twist as they say). EON has said basically nothing beyond the basic bare bones of the story. There has been pretty much nothing in the Craig Bond films that would even remotely portray Bond as some sort of Walther PPK toting Harvey Weinstein. Much of this stuff has come from just the fact that there appear to be some strong female characters in the film and Phoebe Waller-Bridge was brought on board to contribute to the script. Even Waller-Smith has clearly said her purpose was not to mess with Bond but to punch up the script. Waller-Bridge knows how to write smart, edgy and darkly funny dialogue and her Fleabag character is loaded with huge character flaws and in some ways makes Craig's Bond look like a Boy Scout when it comes to relationships. IMO, there would be nothing worst than trying to do strong female characters in a Bond film who are poorly written with clunky ham handed dialogue that come off as typical Hollywood feminist stereotypes. Having Waller-Bridge on board was a great step in avoiding that.
Waller-Bridge was recently interviewed on BBC radio 4 news and seemed to say she only
tweaked the script here and there. As the Bonds had ALREADY been changing to be much
more relevant and inclusive, less sexist etc.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I've never worried that NTTD will be "too feminist" and I'm exited that Waller-Bridge is one of the scriptwriters. What I'm a little bit worried about is NTTD being perceived as the #MeToo Bond movie. I don't think that will help the movie. I didn't follow Bond at the time, but we know EON wanted TLD to reflect the AIDS epidemic at the time and gave him just one (actually two) Bond girls. I'm not going into any discussion now if that was the right call, but I seem to remember it being mentioned in the extras on the DVD. I don't know if this was mentioned during the production and cinema run of TLD, but my guess is they didn't because it wouldn't help sell the film. I think NTTD is quite often assosiated with #MeToo in the press I think their contribution in society is largely positive. I just don't think getting known as "The MeToo Bond film" is just as unhelpful as being "the AIDS aware Bond".
As the Bonds had ALREADY been changing to be much
more relevant and inclusive, less sexist etc.
Yeah....since 1987. If anything, I appreciate Waller-Bridge’s comments. It shows me that she understands that Bond hasn’t been a macho-sexist-monster for at least the past thirty years. I like that both Waller-Bridge, and Craig in his recent interview, are pushing back against the “woke” media narrative that the Bond franchise is somehow out of step with modern times. Nothing could be farther from reality.
One of my former students said he worked for Hans Zimmer, who I'm told is always working on multiple projects because if he doesn't, he knows the studios will find someone cheaper who sounds like him. He also farms out some work or has other composers approach him and essentially purchases the music from them. If he uses it without much alteration, he gives some credit to the original composer. I don't know how accurate this story is, so I wouldn't swear by it, but the student seemed reasonably credible and claimed it to be true.
Sounds about right, the last Zimmer score that was solely written by him without a dozen ghost composers was Interstellar.
As the Bonds had ALREADY been changing to be much
more relevant and inclusive, less sexist etc.
Yeah....since 1987. If anything, I appreciate Waller-Bridge’s comments. It shows me that she understands that Bond hasn’t been a macho-sexist-monster for at least the past thirty years. I like that both Waller-Bridge, and Craig in his recent interview, are pushing back against the “woke” media narrative that the Bond franchise is somehow out of step with modern times. Nothing could be farther from reality.
To be clear, my problem isn't with what I think they're doing. It's with the perception in the media of what they're doing. I liked Waller-Bridge's comment that the movies should change, but not Bond.
No matter how far off the mark the media is or isn't, the chatter is keeping the Bond franchise on people's minds and mouths, and that's ultimately a good thing for all of us.
For the franchise to thrive and endure, Bond needs to be an event and a conversation, not a reliable helping of comfort food every 24 months.
[img]Burns, while not revealing any plot points, said director Fukunaga had a “clear vision” for the Bond 25 movie, and instilled in both Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who was brought on in April 2019 to edit the script, a sense of what direction they were to move in.
Asked what state the script was in when he arrived on it, Burns said: “It was in a completely reasonable state."
“Cary [Jojo Fukunaga, the director] had a very clear vision of what he wanted to do and I think what he encouraged me to do and then after I left, Phoebe, was to continue to push us towards something that both continued the time honoured traditions of Bond, but also continued to ground it in a world which we live in.[/img]
[img]Burns, while not revealing any plot points, said director Fukunaga had a “clear vision” for the Bond 25 movie, and instilled in both Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who was brought on in April 2019 to edit the script, a sense of what direction they were to move in.
Asked what state the script was in when he arrived on it, Burns said: “It was in a completely reasonable state."
“Cary [Jojo Fukunaga, the director] had a very clear vision of what he wanted to do and I think what he encouraged me to do and then after I left, Phoebe, was to continue to push us towards something that both continued the time honoured traditions of Bond, but also continued to ground it in a world which we live in.[/img]
"It was in a completely reasonble state" That's damning the script before Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge came in with faint praise.
Not really understanding where you are coming from on this. I don't see anything negative there. The writer of the article threw in the "Me Too" stuff which was not a quote from Waller-Bridge. Actually what Burns was quoted in the article refutes much of the tab nonsense about the film being a "well polished s..t show". I've no idea how NTTD will actually turn out, but other than a couple setbacks (Craig's injury and the explosives mishap) this production appears to have been anything but a "s..t show". Even the tabs haven't been able to mine anything negative since then. NTTD is now in post production and will finally be in theaters this April to kick off the ever earlier blockbuster season. I remain cautiously optimistic. -{
It's being reported elsewhere that "Me, Too stuff" shows up in the final version. Not sure how to tag this without spoilers in the title, so if someone could help in this regard, I'd appreciate it.
It's being reported elsewhere that "Me, Too stuff" shows up in the final version. Not sure how to tag this without spoilers in the title, so if someone could help in this regard, I'd appreciate it.
[img]Burns, while not revealing any plot points, said director Fukunaga had a “clear vision” for the Bond 25 movie, and instilled in both Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who was brought on in April 2019 to edit the script, a sense of what direction they were to move in.
Asked what state the script was in when he arrived on it, Burns said: “It was in a completely reasonable state."
“Cary [Jojo Fukunaga, the director] had a very clear vision of what he wanted to do and I think what he encouraged me to do and then after I left, Phoebe, was to continue to push us towards something that both continued the time honoured traditions of Bond, but also continued to ground it in a world which we live in.[/img]
"It was in a completely reasonble state" That's damning the script before Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge came in with faint praise.
Not really understanding where you are coming from on this. I don't see anything negative there. The writer of the article threw in the "Me Too" stuff which was not a quote from Waller-Bridge. Actually what Burns was quoted in the article refutes much of the tab nonsense about the film being a "well polished s..t show". I've no idea how NTTD will actually turn out, but other than a couple setbacks (Craig's injury and the explosives mishap) this production appears to have been anything but a "s..t show". Even the tabs haven't been able to mine anything negative since then. NTTD is now in post production and will finally be in theaters this April to kick off the ever earlier blockbuster season. I remain cautiously optimistic. -{
I'm optimistic about the production too, in spite of the problems it has seen. The script must have had some issues at the time, why else hire more scriptwriters? But I probably should have worded myself better. I expect the script had some problems, but wasn't clode to being a well-polished sh*t show.
It's being reported elsewhere that "Me, Too stuff" shows up in the final version. Not sure how to tag this without spoilers in the title, so if someone could help in this regard, I'd appreciate it.
Granted, it’s the Mail, but what’s described in the story sounds like harmless fun to me and far short of Bond being emasculated.
I think most of what's in the linked article sounds fine, but perhaps it would be better to post the link in the Spoilers thread?
But what does "wokest" mean?
I think most of what's in the linked article sounds fine, but perhaps it would be better to post the link in the Spoilers thread?
But what does "wokest" mean?
I'm staying away from spoilers at this point so I haven't read the Daily Mail "article"; however I am guessing that "wokest" is being used in this context: Woke is a slang term that is easing into the mainstream from some varieties of a dialect called African American Vernacular English (sometimes called AAVE). In AAVE, awake is often rendered as woke, as in, “I was sleeping, but now I'm woke.” 'Woke' is increasingly used as a byword for social awareness.
I would have no problem with a scene of a male character trying to sexually harass Nomi and getting his ticket punched by her. It could also present an opportunity for a bit of snarky humor from Bond as he takes it all in.
It's being reported elsewhere that "Me, Too stuff" shows up in the final version. Not sure how to tag this without spoilers in the title, so if someone could help in this regard, I'd appreciate it.
Granted, it’s the Mail, but what’s described in the story sounds like harmless fun to me and far short of Bond being emasculated.
I don't think it's earth shattering, but it will all be in the delivery -- the difference between a clever, off-handed remark and an emphasized dressing down or putting one in his or her place.
But Craig himself seems quite determined to present himself as a "woke" Gen-Xer, current with the times. Sometimes this falls flat not because the intentions may not be noble but the presentation may seem forced or pandering.
It's being reported elsewhere that "Me, Too stuff" shows up in the final version. Not sure how to tag this without spoilers in the title, so if someone could help in this regard, I'd appreciate it.
Granted, it’s the Mail, but what’s described in the story sounds like harmless fun to me and far short of Bond being emasculated.
I think most of what's in the linked article sounds fine, but perhaps it would be better to post the link in the Spoilers thread?
But what does "wokest" mean?
Good point though I only posted it here because it seemed germane to where the discussion was going.
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I am also getting the feeling that story of Romer leaving is just not true. However, even if it were, I don't believe that EON would delay release once again. It might not be an ideal time frame, but I have to believe a composer could come in and knock out a Bond score in 6 to 8 weeks. Seasoned pro session musicians can get things in the can in one or two takes plus editing and correcting mistakes or just about anything you want to do can be accomplished much quicker with digital recording and editing programs like Pro Tools.
One of my former students said he worked for Hans Zimmer, who I'm told is always working on multiple projects because if he doesn't, he knows the studios will find someone cheaper who sounds like him. He also farms out some work or has other composers approach him and essentially purchases the music from them. If he uses it without much alteration, he gives some credit to the original composer. I don't know how accurate this story is, so I wouldn't swear by it, but the student seemed reasonably credible and claimed it to be true.
Are we going to see a Quantum NTTD post on 10 November, this Sunday, and then a Casino NTTD post on 14 November (Thursday)?
Could that mean the NTTD teaser on Monday 18 November?
Still nothing, so far today, on the BBFC website. With 3 of the previous 4 DC films having 7-11 days between a BBFC announcement and the teaser trailer drop, it would seem that no BBFC approval today would make a teaser next week highly unlikely.
https://www.007.com/no-time-to-die-the-making-of-the-film/
Titan Books have announced they are publishing the official making of book for No Time To Die. This lavish coffee table book takes readers behind the scenes of the 25th official James Bond film and reveals the locations, characters, gadgets, weapons, and cars of No Time To Die with exclusive on-set photography, concept art, costume designs, and more, accompanied by cast and crew interviews.
Written by New York Times best-selling author Mark Salisbury, No Time To Die: The Making of the Film is set to publish in hardback on 14 April 2020, priced at $50 and £39.99.
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I agree with what you are saying......but......don't let the nonsense that the Tabs put out there twist your head (or put put your nickers in a twist as they say). EON has said basically nothing beyond the basic bare bones of the story. There has been pretty much nothing in the Craig Bond films that would even remotely portray Bond as some sort of Walther PPK toting Harvey Weinstein. Much of this stuff has come from just the fact that there appear to be some strong female characters in the film and Phoebe Waller-Bridge was brought on board to contribute to the script. Even Waller-Smith has clearly said her purpose was not to mess with Bond but to punch up the script. Waller-Bridge knows how to write smart, edgy and darkly funny dialogue and her Fleabag character is loaded with huge character flaws and in some ways makes Craig's Bond look like a Boy Scout when it comes to relationships. IMO, there would be nothing worst than trying to do strong female characters in a Bond film who are poorly written with clunky ham handed dialogue that come off as typical Hollywood feminist stereotypes. Having Waller-Bridge on board was a great step in avoiding that.
tweaked the script here and there. As the Bonds had ALREADY been changing to be much
more relevant and inclusive, less sexist etc.
Yeah....since 1987. If anything, I appreciate Waller-Bridge’s comments. It shows me that she understands that Bond hasn’t been a macho-sexist-monster for at least the past thirty years. I like that both Waller-Bridge, and Craig in his recent interview, are pushing back against the “woke” media narrative that the Bond franchise is somehow out of step with modern times. Nothing could be farther from reality.
What's with the complete DB10 and what looks like a few DB10 frames on the racks in the background?? ?:)
To be clear, my problem isn't with what I think they're doing. It's with the perception in the media of what they're doing. I liked Waller-Bridge's comment that the movies should change, but not Bond.
For the franchise to thrive and endure, Bond needs to be an event and a conversation, not a reliable helping of comfort food every 24 months.
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment … tt-z-burns
[img]Burns, while not revealing any plot points, said director Fukunaga had a “clear vision” for the Bond 25 movie, and instilled in both Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who was brought on in April 2019 to edit the script, a sense of what direction they were to move in. Asked what state the script was in when he arrived on it, Burns said: “It was in a completely reasonable state." “Cary [Jojo Fukunaga, the director] had a very clear vision of what he wanted to do and I think what he encouraged me to do and then after I left, Phoebe, was to continue to push us towards something that both continued the time honoured traditions of Bond, but also continued to ground it in a world which we live in.[/img]
"It was in a completely reasonble state" That's damning the script before Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge came in with faint praise.
Not really understanding where you are coming from on this. I don't see anything negative there. The writer of the article threw in the "Me Too" stuff which was not a quote from Waller-Bridge. Actually what Burns was quoted in the article refutes much of the tab nonsense about the film being a "well polished s..t show". I've no idea how NTTD will actually turn out, but other than a couple setbacks (Craig's injury and the explosives mishap) this production appears to have been anything but a "s..t show". Even the tabs haven't been able to mine anything negative since then. NTTD is now in post production and will finally be in theaters this April to kick off the ever earlier blockbuster season. I remain cautiously optimistic.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7668333/Bond-gets-electric-car-wife-refuses-second-Time-Die-film.html
Granted, it’s the Mail, but what’s described in the story sounds like harmless fun to me and far short of Bond being emasculated.
I'm optimistic about the production too, in spite of the problems it has seen. The script must have had some issues at the time, why else hire more scriptwriters? But I probably should have worded myself better. I expect the script had some problems, but wasn't clode to being a well-polished sh*t show.
I think most of what's in the linked article sounds fine, but perhaps it would be better to post the link in the Spoilers thread?
But what does "wokest" mean?
But what does "wokest" mean?
I'm staying away from spoilers at this point so I haven't read the Daily Mail "article"; however I am guessing that "wokest" is being used in this context: Woke is a slang term that is easing into the mainstream from some varieties of a dialect called African American Vernacular English (sometimes called AAVE). In AAVE, awake is often rendered as woke, as in, “I was sleeping, but now I'm woke.” 'Woke' is increasingly used as a byword for social awareness.
I would have no problem with a scene of a male character trying to sexually harass Nomi and getting his ticket punched by her. It could also present an opportunity for a bit of snarky humor from Bond as he takes it all in.
But Craig himself seems quite determined to present himself as a "woke" Gen-Xer, current with the times. Sometimes this falls flat not because the intentions may not be noble but the presentation may seem forced or pandering.