So, Heineken's NTTD campaign started in the first week of January, people were tweeting video they took of TV adverts on 7 Jan. That is 87 days before the UK release of NTTD.
So, NTTD's Heineken advert campaign, almost 3 months before the film's release, and Spectre and Skyfall, just over a month, five weeks. Why so much earlier this time?
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The comments give credence to the idea of a very long Bond film. DC says that "the trailer shows some of the work we've done but there is so much more in the movie than that" and Barbara says the film is an "epic love story", which wouldn't seem possible if you consider what we know of the plot and how long the film would typically be, 2h 20min. And Michael says the film's "been three years in the making...planning it and writing it," which would set the start of work for the film in 2016, but the P&W announcement came in 2017.
Though they didn't announce a title for the song, they did say that Eilish is singing the "title song". The tweet reads:
"The #NoTimeToDie title song will be performed by @billieeilish";
By definition, "title song" means that the song will have the same name as the title of the film. But they could also just mean that she's doing the song that will be playing over the title sequence, and the song may still have a different name. So far we've only had one song from the Craig films that shares the title of the film. But seeing as the artist was chosen (at least partially) for her marketing power, I'm hoping they will also have her name the song after the title of the film (with the title prominently in the lyrics) to take advantage of the ability to use the song to market the film.
I’ve just done a quick listen to her small catalogue of work and it is not to my taste. But at the end of the day, the title song is more of a publicity stunt than a part of the film (this is especially true given the diminished role the song has played in the film score of late). So if it generates positive interest in the film, I couldn’t care less who sings the song.
I think she's an interesting and bold choice. I think it bodes well. After Sam Smith the bar is so low that she almost cannot fail.
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I didn't think of Nobody Does it Better because she at least says the Spy who Loved me in the song.
All the Time in the World, not the title song, or the song playyed in the title.
Anyway from my taste, I say she has a pretty damn chance of lowering the bar even under sam smith.
Guitarist/songwriter Johnny Marr working with Zimmer on the score....now that's interesting. If anything, Marr is a super melodic guitar player and the antithesis of much of the fuzzed out, distorted shredder metal playing prevalent on a lot of contemporary action film soundtracks.
Zimmer is also a guitar player and it will be interesting to see if this score is more guitar oriented....Marr's involvement does bode well for the score to be more melodic in nature. It may be telling (in a good way) that Marr also collaborated with Zimmer on the Inception score in which Zimmer has said he used Barry's OHMSS score as an inspiration....and it's no secret that Christopher Nolan was highly influenced by OHMSS and at the time considered Inception "his Bond film".
Guitarist/songwriter Johnny Marr working with Zimmer on the score....now that's interesting. If anything, Marr is a super melodic guitar player and the antithesis of much of the fuzzed out, distorted shredder metal playing prevalent on a lot of contemporary action film soundtracks.
Zimmer is also a guitar player and it will be interesting to see if this score is more guitar oriented....Marr's involvement does bode well for the score to be more melodic in nature. It may be telling (in a good way) that Marr also collaborated with Zimmer on the Inception score in which Zimmer has said he used Barry's OHMSS score as an inspiration....and it's no secret that Christopher Nolan was highly influenced by OHMSS and at the time considered Inception "his Bond film".
Guitarist/songwriter Johnny Marr working with Zimmer on the score....now that's interesting. If anything, Marr is a super melodic guitar player and the antithesis of much of the fuzzed out, distorted shredder metal playing prevalent on a lot of contemporary action film soundtracks.
Zimmer is also a guitar player and it will be interesting to see if this score is more guitar oriented....Marr's involvement does bode well for the score to be more melodic in nature. It may be telling (in a good way) that Marr also collaborated with Zimmer on the Inception score in which Zimmer has said he used Barry's OHMSS score as an inspiration....and it's no secret that Christopher Nolan was highly influenced by OHMSS and at the time considered Inception "his Bond film".
Perhaps he'll bring a touch of Vic Flick to this?
That was my first thought as well, hopefully this means we'll get more prominent Bond theme incorporated into the score.
Guitarist/songwriter Johnny Marr working with Zimmer on the score....now that's interesting. If anything, Marr is a super melodic guitar player and the antithesis of much of the fuzzed out, distorted shredder metal playing prevalent on a lot of contemporary action film soundtracks.
Zimmer is also a guitar player and it will be interesting to see if this score is more guitar oriented....Marr's involvement does bode well for the score to be more melodic in nature. It may be telling (in a good way) that Marr also collaborated with Zimmer on the Inception score in which Zimmer has said he used Barry's OHMSS score as an inspiration....and it's no secret that Christopher Nolan was highly influenced by OHMSS and at the time considered Inception "his Bond film".
Perhaps he'll bring a touch of Vic Flick to this?
I’d be happy if he brings a touch of Johnny Marr! He’s much more of a guitar hero than Flick ever was.
Guitarist/songwriter Johnny Marr working with Zimmer on the score....now that's interesting. If anything, Marr is a super melodic guitar player and the antithesis of much of the fuzzed out, distorted shredder metal playing prevalent on a lot of contemporary action film soundtracks.
Zimmer is also a guitar player and it will be interesting to see if this score is more guitar oriented....Marr's involvement does bode well for the score to be more melodic in nature. It may be telling (in a good way) that Marr also collaborated with Zimmer on the Inception score in which Zimmer has said he used Barry's OHMSS score as an inspiration....and it's no secret that Christopher Nolan was highly influenced by OHMSS and at the time considered Inception "his Bond film".
Perhaps he'll bring a touch of Vic Flick to this?
I’d be happy if he brings a touch of Johnny Marr! He’s much more of a guitar hero than Flick ever was.
I'm starting to get the impression you're not much a fan of Bond music.
I’d be happy if he brings a touch of Johnny Marr! He’s much more of a guitar hero than Flick ever was.
I'm starting to get the impression you're not much a fan of Bond music.
Based on what?! I’m a fan of Bond music being innovative: Barry wasn’t just copying what came before, and his music is fantastic as a result. Why on earth would anyone hope Johnny Marr would be copying a session musician? He’s Johnny Marr! If you think Vic Flick, good though he was, was anything near to being Johnny Marr then I get the impression you aren’t a fan of music in general!
I’d be happy if he brings a touch of Johnny Marr! He’s much more of a guitar hero than Flick ever was.
I'm starting to get the impression you're not much a fan of Bond music.
Based on what?! I’m a fan of Bond music being innovative: Barry wasn’t just copying what came before, and his music is fantastic as a result. Why on earth would anyone hope Johnny Marr would be copying a session musician? He’s Johnny Marr! If you think Vic Flick, good though he was, was anything near to being Johnny Marr then I get the impression you aren’t a fan of music in general!
Barry invented the Bond sound. It's a sound that should be respected in a Bond film. It's why so many people hate Michel Legrand's NSNA score, and despite him being one of the greatest songwriters of all time, he messed up there. I could quickly name 50 composers that are better than John Barry and 50 guitar players that are better than Vic Flick, but the 25th Bond film isn't the place to invent a new sound since the series has a fantastic one already established. The performer of a Bond score doesn't matter so much as a fitting performance for Bond does.
Vic Flick basically did a faster/jazzier take on the Duane Eddie twangy/reverb drenched guitar sound for the Bond theme that basically created a sub genre of instrumental pop akin to "surf music" known as "spy instro music". Marr is known for his jangly, appregiated chord style. Marr is not known for overdriven, note sustaining solos. Flick being a studio pro, could probably play any style of music a recording/song might call for. Marr's style does not necessarily mean he's isn't capable of doing other things either. Marr is also an accomplished songwriter. It's not clear whether Marr is be actually co-writing some of the score or is just being used as a guitar player. Whatever it is, I wouldn't see it as a negative, I just wouldn't expect Marr to be providing any Vic Flick single note surfy twang to the score....but one never knows.
As far as what Matt S said "Barry invented the Bond sound. It's a sound that should be respected in a Bond film. It's why so many people hate Michel Legrand's NSNA score, and despite him being one of the greatest songwriters of all time, he messed up there. I could quickly name 50 composers that are better than John Barry and 50 guitar players that are better than Vic Flick, but the 25th Bond film isn't the place to invent a new sound since the series has a fantastic one already established. The performer of a Bond score doesn't matter so much as a fitting performance for Bond does."
I pretty much agree with that 100% with the caveat of allowing the composer some latitude to put their own personal stamp on it . Based upon a lot of what Zimmer has done, he should not find it difficult to meld his "style" to the Barry/Bond style, especially Barry's later more orchestral scores.
Can I just say it's a pleasure to read intelligent discussion of Bond/Barry music? I'm not going to participate much (been there, done that, many times) but I'm enjoying the discussion from people who actually do know the subject. {[]
I love the smiths and was thinking the other day that I'd love to be in a parallel universe where the smiths did the title song for a Dalton Bond film.
This is excellent news. Another big name added to this film.
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So 'yes' then. When did they change it? Anyone know? Luckily I've had spare time today but it's not what I wanted to do.
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I've previously speculated on the basis of the clapperboards that NTTD might be almost 3h long.
https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/966711/#p966711
Has anyone else seen on Youtube these NTTD trailer related comments by DC, Lashana Lynch and Babs and Michael?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHCZu70qpOk
The comments give credence to the idea of a very long Bond film. DC says that "the trailer shows some of the work we've done but there is so much more in the movie than that" and Barbara says the film is an "epic love story", which wouldn't seem possible if you consider what we know of the plot and how long the film would typically be, 2h 20min. And Michael says the film's "been three years in the making...planning it and writing it," which would set the start of work for the film in 2016, but the P&W announcement came in 2017.
Eh, 007.com wrote this about Sam Smith's song and called it the title song.
https://www.007.com/sam-smith-to-sing-title-song-for-spectre/
And refers to Adele's song being the title song.
https://www.007.com/adele-and-roger-deakins-awarded/
I'd say Nobody Does It Better is the best exception to this one.
Another exception is "We have all the time in the world" for OHMSS
I think she's an interesting and bold choice. I think it bodes well. After Sam Smith the bar is so low that she almost cannot fail.
All the Time in the World, not the title song, or the song playyed in the title.
Anyway from my taste, I say she has a pretty damn chance of lowering the bar even under sam smith.
No Time to Die
Shootin' bad boys
'cause I'm a spy
Use my Q toys
No time to die.
M says be good
But I say why
Not that I could
No time to die.
The name's James Bond
Not Nellie Bly
Rules? I'm not fond
No time to die.
Sleep with Ms. Swann
I'm gonna try
Then again gone
No time to die.
Mr. Robot
Will make him cry
Foil his mad plot
No time to die
And drink vodka
Maybe get high
Play cards, scuba
No time to die.
EDIT:. Forgot to add title.
I was under the impression this discussion was about main themes? A number of Bond films have secondary songs.
Job done! :007)
This line made me snort. A woman singing that she's going to try to sleep with another woman.
. Risico.
Gun In My Hand
Never Dream of Dying
hah!
Guitarist/songwriter Johnny Marr working with Zimmer on the score....now that's interesting. If anything, Marr is a super melodic guitar player and the antithesis of much of the fuzzed out, distorted shredder metal playing prevalent on a lot of contemporary action film soundtracks.
Zimmer is also a guitar player and it will be interesting to see if this score is more guitar oriented....Marr's involvement does bode well for the score to be more melodic in nature. It may be telling (in a good way) that Marr also collaborated with Zimmer on the Inception score in which Zimmer has said he used Barry's OHMSS score as an inspiration....and it's no secret that Christopher Nolan was highly influenced by OHMSS and at the time considered Inception "his Bond film".
Perhaps he'll bring a touch of Vic Flick to this?
I’d be happy if he brings a touch of Johnny Marr! He’s much more of a guitar hero than Flick ever was.
I'm starting to get the impression you're not much a fan of Bond music.
Based on what?! I’m a fan of Bond music being innovative: Barry wasn’t just copying what came before, and his music is fantastic as a result. Why on earth would anyone hope Johnny Marr would be copying a session musician? He’s Johnny Marr!
Barry invented the Bond sound. It's a sound that should be respected in a Bond film. It's why so many people hate Michel Legrand's NSNA score, and despite him being one of the greatest songwriters of all time, he messed up there. I could quickly name 50 composers that are better than John Barry and 50 guitar players that are better than Vic Flick, but the 25th Bond film isn't the place to invent a new sound since the series has a fantastic one already established. The performer of a Bond score doesn't matter so much as a fitting performance for Bond does.
As far as what Matt S said "Barry invented the Bond sound. It's a sound that should be respected in a Bond film. It's why so many people hate Michel Legrand's NSNA score, and despite him being one of the greatest songwriters of all time, he messed up there. I could quickly name 50 composers that are better than John Barry and 50 guitar players that are better than Vic Flick, but the 25th Bond film isn't the place to invent a new sound since the series has a fantastic one already established. The performer of a Bond score doesn't matter so much as a fitting performance for Bond does."
I pretty much agree with that 100% with the caveat of allowing the composer some latitude to put their own personal stamp on it . Based upon a lot of what Zimmer has done, he should not find it difficult to meld his "style" to the Barry/Bond style, especially Barry's later more orchestral scores.
This is excellent news. Another big name added to this film.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3pIlK8cg6o
And here is a much older 2013 track of his. You can really hear The Smiths influence in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXEc9WZ1bkY
The mind boggles as to what Zimmer is thinking of doing with NTTD by bringing Marr onboard.
Bizarre but cool collaboration! Have high hopes now