There are different cultures and personalities whe it comes to giving praise and critisism. Some say "Amazing! I love it!" when they like something or "I hate it!" when they don't. Other's say "it works" when they like something or "it's not the best" when they don't. My father tends to say "it's edible" when he like what's for dinner )
Craig may be of the same type.
if i watch Craig in interviews, and compare his natural style to how he plays Bond, his appearance on SNL a few weeks back, or Joe Bang from Logan Lucky...
I gotta say his Bond is closer to his real life persona. That other stuff is him really trying to stretch, you can see the acting.
Maybe in real life he grins more, and cracks a few wittys, but he's still got that intimidating glower, and speaks slowly and chooses his few words very carefully.
That sounds to me like it wasn’t done the way he wanted it?
I think that’s a good point.....maybe the final result was not quite what he expected. Perhaps he is being overly critical but it’s strange given that he thought spectre was better than skyfall which general consensus is that this was not the case.
First of all, the level of candor and honesty displayed by movie stars is all over the charts. Some will say a film is the greatest thing ever just because that's what is expected of them. Some will slag a perfectly good film because of some personal perceived slight, etc (something ended up on the cutting room floor that they thought was great for them). With Craig...who knows? SPECTRE for example. Craig was quoted as saying something like SP was 10 x Skyfall or something like that. Meanwhile, it was rumored that Craig was not happy with SPECTRE and had clashed with Sam Mendes over a number of things. The other thing to not discount is that what DC perceives as being a good Bond film might not be what we want to see as fans and possibly what the director has created is or vice versa. Here are my feelings (and I apologize if I am repeating myself) and a bit of unsolicited advice said with love for our community): I know it's hard considering the difficult history of NTTD but please try to stay off the ledge and let's look forward to a fall sitting in your favorite cinema with a bunch of other Bond fans awaiting that gun barrel and our favorite theme....and this time around we will truly need it more than ever.
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if i watch Craig in interviews, and compare his natural style to how he plays Bond, his appearance on SNL a few weeks back, or Joe Bang from Logan Lucky...
I gotta say his Bond is closer to his real life persona. That other stuff is him really trying to stretch, you can see the acting.
Maybe in real life he grins more, and cracks a few wittys, but he's still got that intimidating glower, and speaks slowly and chooses his few words very carefully.
Do we know if Bond actually lights up a cigar in NTTD, or if those images of Craig smoking were just him enjoying a cigar between takes
My guess is it was Craig enjoying a cigar between takes but I wouldn't have a problem with Bond lighting up a cigar in NTTD especially if it's at the annoyance of someone else.
Grace Randolph's Beyond The Trailer is a really good movie news Youtube channel, she really knows the industry. Her BTT channel is owned by the same people who own industry movie trade title deadline.com.
In her latest video, discussing if Mulan and Black Widow will go to streaming Grace states that she does not expect NTTD to get a theatrical release in November. Referring to superhero movies she says that films in the 1-2 billion USD revenue category are unlikely to get a theatrical release for 1-2 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yglXPgqGuQ4
Grace Randolph's Beyond The Trailer is a really good movie news Youtube channel, she really knows the industry. Her BTT channel is owned by the same people who own industry movie trade title deadline.com.
In her latest video, discussing if Mulan and Black Widow will go to streaming Grace states that she does not expect NTTD to get a theatrical release in November. Referring to superhero movies she says that films in the 1-2 billion USD revenue category are unlikely to get a theatrical release for 1-2 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yglXPgqGuQ4
Based on what we’re seeing right now, I think that’s potentially correct. This is not going to be truly over until they get a vaccine in play, and we’re 12 months minimum from that happening.
Grace Randolph's Beyond The Trailer is a really good movie news Youtube channel, she really knows the industry. Her BTT channel is owned by the same people who own industry movie trade title deadline.com.
In her latest video, discussing if Mulan and Black Widow will go to streaming Grace states that she does not expect NTTD to get a theatrical release in November. Referring to superhero movies she says that films in the 1-2 billion USD revenue category are unlikely to get a theatrical release for 1-2 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yglXPgqGuQ4
Based on what we’re seeing right now, I think that’s potentially correct. This is not going to be truly over until they get a vaccine in play, and we’re 12 months minimum from that happening.
If there is a vaccine, period. I've seen some discouse that it may be inefficacious to vaccinate. I think there's a lot of uncertainty and making projections for ~8 months from now is a bit silly for any layperson (even a film journalist!) to do. Whole bunch of variables at play.
Of course we'll see, perhaps this is the optimist in me. Stuff really sucks these days!
Randolph in her Youtube report says streaming services might charge $25 for a major tentpole movie. Assuming NTTD's production costs were $250m and its marketing cost half that, $125m, then it only needs 15 million households to rent/buy it for that price to break even. Any country with 60 million people or more is going to have 15 million households, assuming 4 person per household/family. There are 25 nations with 59 million or more inhabitants. Admittedly a lot of those countries are poor and could not afford $25 for a movie but Canada at 34 million, Australia at 20 million, all those high income smaller countries will add up fast. A same-day worldwide release could easily hit 15 million streams/households. NTTD isn't going to be a billion dollar movie but it could make a small profit and in the world of coronavirus it's all about survival.
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Looking past it being the wrong thread for that post, nitpicking a couple of things in the quiz... For the question "Which electronic instrument was stolen from MI6 with all agent’s data in Skyfall episode?" two of the four choices are "Computer drive" and "hard drive"...they're the same thing. The question "What was being celebrated in Mexico city in the beginning of the Spectre?" two of the four choices are "The day of the dead" and "Public Holiday"...The Day of the Dead is a public holiday in Mexico. And the answer to the question "Which of the ingredients is NOT a part of Vesper Martini?" is "Martini"...that doesn't even make sense.
EON was ahead of the curve in delaying the film, which gave them the ability to grab a good spot in the fall. Now I think they should take the lead on the streaming idea. They would have a MASSIVE audience with everyone at home. Charge enough for the right to stream it, and they could still turn a large profit.
EON was ahead of the curve in delaying the film, which gave them the ability to grab a good spot in the fall. Now I think they should take the lead on the streaming idea. They would have a MASSIVE audience with everyone at home. Charge enough for the right to stream it, and they could still turn a large profit.
Yes they definitely made the right choice nice and early. With all the cinema closures around the world it would have happened anyway, but it’s better that it was on their terms.
Regarding streaming it, they’d have to worry about piracy. Films released on streaming platforms turn up on torrent sites within no time at all, in the same high quality. While I’m assuming there’s the old poor quality recording at the cinema version online soon after physical premieres, things released on the big screen take months to get pirated in decent quality. So if they release NTTD exclusively on streaming and charge a bunch to stream it, they’d get a lot that would’ve happily paid to see it on the big screen if available turn to the piracy method, not wanting to pay the premium charged by the streaming service.
EON was ahead of the curve in delaying the film, which gave them the ability to grab a good spot in the fall. Now I think they should take the lead on the streaming idea. They would have a MASSIVE audience with everyone at home. Charge enough for the right to stream it, and they could still turn a large profit.
Yes they definitely made the right choice nice and early. With all the cinema closures around the world it would have happened anyway, but it’s better that it was on their terms.
Regarding streaming it, they’d have to worry about piracy. Films released on streaming platforms turn up on torrent sites within no time at all, in the same high quality. While I’m assuming there’s the old poor quality recording at the cinema version online soon after physical premieres, things released on the big screen take months to get pirated in decent quality. So if they release NTTD exclusively on streaming and charge a bunch to stream it, they’d get a lot that would’ve happily paid to see it on the big screen if available turn to the piracy method, not wanting to pay the premium charged by the streaming service.
I don't think MGM and EON have a choice, there will come a point where the interest payments on the loans for production will begin to really hurt and at that point they will have to stream because the cinemas are unlikely to open until sometime next year IMHO.
Randolph in her Youtube report says streaming services might charge $25 for a major tentpole movie.
so far I don't do the streaming thing (don't do cable either), and there's no way I would pay $25- to see a film at a proper theatre, let alone on my own teevee.
Meaning if this is how they release the film, I may not get a chance to see it until the dvd is released months later.
So no spoilers in November please gang!
For $25 I would save a lot of money if it allows me something like a 24-hour window to watch it. I could watch it three times. My wife would watch it with me once. That would be about $50 in movie tickets saved.
For $25 I would save a lot of money if it allows me something like a 24-hour window to watch it. I could watch it three times. My wife would watch it with me once. That would be about $50 in movie tickets saved.
Grace Randolph suggested that people might be able to buy a film, not just a time-limited rental, for between $24.99 and $29.99. I would imagine that they will look closely at how Black Widow and other films do on streaming and what revenue is possible.
I seem to remember many years ago reading that DVD sales could be as high as theatrical grosses for movies, and obviously you're not paying the theatre half of that DVD retail price; so maybe a combined digital/blu-ray deal?
If movie theaters are up and running by November, NTTD will play in theaters. I don't believe that the industry is ready to abandon theaters just yet despite the trend prior to COVID 19 toward more multi platform releases. Many of the releases that ended up on pay streaming did so out of necessity. Some had began theatrical runs that were cut short, some were not exactly "tentpole" releases and some were probably smaller films that the theatrical release would have been short and somewhat limited anyway. The theater chains also figure into the overall economy. They employ a very large number of people and pay rent, attract people to malls, restaurants, etc.
I will say that Black Widow will be somewhat of a test case, but the film industry is smart enough to understand that numbers will be skewed do to the current situation ie no other way to see the film, people stuck at home, etc.
IMO, the big "tentpole" releases, especially those that employ large screen technology like IMAX need those theaters for a return on their investment. I can believe that some day in the not too distant future that the theater going experience will morph into more of a specialty niche, primarily of "super theaters" ie IMAX, etc that specialize as being venues for the bigger "spectacles" and will be the only way to see those films for an extended time frame before being made available in other formats. More and more other films will just go directly to streaming.
I imagine if the theatres reopen by November, at worst we will have the choice of watching it steaming at home or going into the theatre if we dare. They may be wise to start it streaming at the same time just so as to not lose audience that is rightfully wary of going back in a theatre with all those coughing strangers.
If the only choice is streaming, folks with streaming services and nice home entertainment systems oughta invite their moviebuddys over to chip in on a share of that $25-. Just so long as everybody sits 2 metres apart and we don't share the popcorn.
Should the virus not be under any form of control by summer, I think it will get interesting in August to September, bc that’s when they’ll have to make a decision. There‘s no point in re-starting the promotion for the movie if the fate of the cinema (for November) is still uncertain. Don‘t think it would be a profitable thing to get in full marketing-swing again just to call it off three weeks before release again...
I would have no doubt that EON and their partners are closely keeping an eye on what is going on every day. China appears to be ever so slowly moving toward getting back to "normal". Unfortunately, in the States and other countries we are just moving into the eye of the storm. It would not be a stretch to say EON and partners have multiple plans in place, the preference probably to be able to get NTTD out in theaters in November. When it comes to streaming or even Blu Ray / DVD piracy is always a huge concern. There are hardcore cases, such as my self that even if NTTD was available on pay streaming as long as it was an option (and of course safe) I would still opt to see the film in all its IMAX glory at an IMAX theater. IMO, it's a film that would be best seen in a proper theater.
I wonder if a cinema could be hired and agree to screen a blu-ray or stream? Aren't the 4K laser projection cinemas these days just projecting a digital file anyway?
I wonder if a cinema could be hired and agree to screen a blu-ray or stream? Aren't the 4K laser projection cinemas these days just projecting a digital file anyway?
Hypothetically yes. Digital projection in cinemas is done via a DCP which basically a drive that contains the film. Regarding streaming to cinemas, that can also be done. For example, Fathom Events in the USA (don't know if they are in other countries) stream classic films to theaters all over the country, many times from one primary DCP source. As far as I know, most Digital Cinema's have the capacity to project a DVD or Blu Ray but the image quality would be significantly inferior on a large theater screen than a DCP. DCP's come in both 2K and 4K. It's a bit surprising to note that many DCPs (even though most digital projectors have 4K capacity) are 2K.
yes this files are called DCP (Digital Cinema Package) but it is possible to link a bluray-player/laptop/... via HDMI with a digital projector
Over to you then @TheBondExperience and your Operation Barracuda thing, if NTTD goes VOD you can organise a cinema screening, assume they'll do private screenings. One assumes a cinema manager could open the doors, man the popcorn kiosk and fire up the projector to make a few hundred dollars in one evening.
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Craig may be of the same type.
I gotta say his Bond is closer to his real life persona. That other stuff is him really trying to stretch, you can see the acting.
Maybe in real life he grins more, and cracks a few wittys, but he's still got that intimidating glower, and speaks slowly and chooses his few words very carefully.
I think that’s a good point.....maybe the final result was not quite what he expected. Perhaps he is being overly critical but it’s strange given that he thought spectre was better than skyfall which general consensus is that this was not the case.
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I agree with this.
My guess is it was Craig enjoying a cigar between takes but I wouldn't have a problem with Bond lighting up a cigar in NTTD especially if it's at the annoyance of someone else.
In her latest video, discussing if Mulan and Black Widow will go to streaming Grace states that she does not expect NTTD to get a theatrical release in November. Referring to superhero movies she says that films in the 1-2 billion USD revenue category are unlikely to get a theatrical release for 1-2 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yglXPgqGuQ4
Read a profile of Grace Randolph here.
https://newmediarockstars.com/2012/09/beyond-the-trailer-host-grace-randolph-on-youtube-the-problem-with-hollywood/
Based on what we’re seeing right now, I think that’s potentially correct. This is not going to be truly over until they get a vaccine in play, and we’re 12 months minimum from that happening.
If there is a vaccine, period. I've seen some discouse that it may be inefficacious to vaccinate. I think there's a lot of uncertainty and making projections for ~8 months from now is a bit silly for any layperson (even a film journalist!) to do. Whole bunch of variables at play.
Of course we'll see, perhaps this is the optimist in me. Stuff really sucks these days!
http://jamesbondradio.com/the-prospect-of-a-digital-release-of-no-time-to-die/
Randolph in her Youtube report says streaming services might charge $25 for a major tentpole movie. Assuming NTTD's production costs were $250m and its marketing cost half that, $125m, then it only needs 15 million households to rent/buy it for that price to break even. Any country with 60 million people or more is going to have 15 million households, assuming 4 person per household/family. There are 25 nations with 59 million or more inhabitants. Admittedly a lot of those countries are poor and could not afford $25 for a movie but Canada at 34 million, Australia at 20 million, all those high income smaller countries will add up fast. A same-day worldwide release could easily hit 15 million streams/households. NTTD isn't going to be a billion dollar movie but it could make a small profit and in the world of coronavirus it's all about survival.
Looking past it being the wrong thread for that post, nitpicking a couple of things in the quiz... For the question "Which electronic instrument was stolen from MI6 with all agent’s data in Skyfall episode?" two of the four choices are "Computer drive" and "hard drive"...they're the same thing. The question "What was being celebrated in Mexico city in the beginning of the Spectre?" two of the four choices are "The day of the dead" and "Public Holiday"...The Day of the Dead is a public holiday in Mexico. And the answer to the question "Which of the ingredients is NOT a part of Vesper Martini?" is "Martini"...that doesn't even make sense.
Edit: annnnd nevermind, original post removed.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/no-time-to-die-cars-behind-the-scenes
Yes they definitely made the right choice nice and early. With all the cinema closures around the world it would have happened anyway, but it’s better that it was on their terms.
Regarding streaming it, they’d have to worry about piracy. Films released on streaming platforms turn up on torrent sites within no time at all, in the same high quality. While I’m assuming there’s the old poor quality recording at the cinema version online soon after physical premieres, things released on the big screen take months to get pirated in decent quality. So if they release NTTD exclusively on streaming and charge a bunch to stream it, they’d get a lot that would’ve happily paid to see it on the big screen if available turn to the piracy method, not wanting to pay the premium charged by the streaming service.
According to this article, password sharing of streaming services is just as big a threat as piracy and Torrent sites aren't the big boogey man they once were.
https://nicepeopleatwork.com/blog/the-real-impact-of-piracy-on-the-video-streaming-industry/
I don't think MGM and EON have a choice, there will come a point where the interest payments on the loans for production will begin to really hurt and at that point they will have to stream because the cinemas are unlikely to open until sometime next year IMHO.
Meaning if this is how they release the film, I may not get a chance to see it until the dvd is released months later.
So no spoilers in November please gang!
Grace Randolph suggested that people might be able to buy a film, not just a time-limited rental, for between $24.99 and $29.99. I would imagine that they will look closely at how Black Widow and other films do on streaming and what revenue is possible.
I seem to remember many years ago reading that DVD sales could be as high as theatrical grosses for movies, and obviously you're not paying the theatre half of that DVD retail price; so maybe a combined digital/blu-ray deal?
I will say that Black Widow will be somewhat of a test case, but the film industry is smart enough to understand that numbers will be skewed do to the current situation ie no other way to see the film, people stuck at home, etc.
IMO, the big "tentpole" releases, especially those that employ large screen technology like IMAX need those theaters for a return on their investment. I can believe that some day in the not too distant future that the theater going experience will morph into more of a specialty niche, primarily of "super theaters" ie IMAX, etc that specialize as being venues for the bigger "spectacles" and will be the only way to see those films for an extended time frame before being made available in other formats. More and more other films will just go directly to streaming.
If the only choice is streaming, folks with streaming services and nice home entertainment systems oughta invite their moviebuddys over to chip in on a share of that $25-. Just so long as everybody sits 2 metres apart and we don't share the popcorn.
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Hypothetically yes. Digital projection in cinemas is done via a DCP which basically a drive that contains the film. Regarding streaming to cinemas, that can also be done. For example, Fathom Events in the USA (don't know if they are in other countries) stream classic films to theaters all over the country, many times from one primary DCP source. As far as I know, most Digital Cinema's have the capacity to project a DVD or Blu Ray but the image quality would be significantly inferior on a large theater screen than a DCP. DCP's come in both 2K and 4K. It's a bit surprising to note that many DCPs (even though most digital projectors have 4K capacity) are 2K.
Over to you then @TheBondExperience and your Operation Barracuda thing, if NTTD goes VOD you can organise a cinema screening, assume they'll do private screenings. One assumes a cinema manager could open the doors, man the popcorn kiosk and fire up the projector to make a few hundred dollars in one evening.