With Boyle gone, I hope Barbara doesn't continue with the idea of killing Bond. It reeks of being a gimmick rather than actually serving the character and the franchise.
Was there any real credibility to that idea or was it just tab and net fodder? It just seems very out of character for EON IMO.
I agree - I hope it was just baseless speculation.
But, that is one very odd release date. For a Bond movie, unprecedented. Never been done before.
I never saw True Detective, so I don't know what the director is capable of.
Here is what it is going to land in the middle of (according to Box Office Mojo's release schedule.
Bond is a heavy hitter, sure. But there are also some heavy hitters here, too.
Untitled WB Event Film #3 (2020) (WB) - 2/7
• Nimona (Fox) - 2/14
• Untitled Blumhouse Productions Project I (2020) (Uni.) - 2/14
• Untitled DC Film (Feb 2020) (WB) - 2/14
• Untitled Disney Live Action I (2020) (BV) - 2/14
It'll be better than all of this.
Of course the "untitled DC movie" is a Daniel Craig movie!!! How did they know?
Cue, Fifty Shades of Bond jokes
Maybe there's a romance plot in this one, after all.
Funny how a difference of four months changes some from excited to thinking it will be a flop. I'm going to trust the process on this one. Hang in there.
But, that is one very odd release date. For a Bond movie, unprecedented. Never been done before.
I never saw True Detective, so I don't know what the director is capable of.
Here is what it is going to land in the middle of (according to Box Office Mojo's release schedule.
Bond is a heavy hitter, sure. But there are also some heavy hitters here, too.
Untitled WB Event Film #3 (2020) (WB) - 2/7
• Nimona (Fox) - 2/14
• Untitled Blumhouse Productions Project I (2020) (Uni.) - 2/14
• Untitled DC Film (Feb 2020) (WB) - 2/14
• Untitled Disney Live Action I (2020) (BV) - 2/14
It'll be better than all of this.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Hollywood has discovered winter can be a season for blockbusters. "Black Panther" came out in February and earned $1.3B — that's more than "Skyfall."
Untitled WB Event Film #3 (2020) (WB) - 2/7
• Nimona (Fox) - 2/14
• Untitled Blumhouse Productions Project I (2020) (Uni.) - 2/14
• Untitled DC Film (Feb 2020) (WB) - 2/14
• Untitled Disney Live Action I (2020) (BV) - 2/14
I wonder if the new Bond release date will cause some of these other films to move to different dates.
It wouldn't surprise me if the producers of the Midway film new in advance that Bond 25 was going to be delayed and jumped into
that fall slot.
While there is no precedent for a Bond film to be released at that time, Black Panther was released mid February of last year and
that worked out pretty well.
Could you imagine if he bailed out, say in February of 2019? Then we'd probably get a delay of another year or more. November 2021..............then Craig bails out leading to another delay...............November 2023....................and on wards.
In just the last few years he has walked away from “It,” “The Alienist,” and “True Detective,” and none on good terms. It’s an odd choice for someone who will be expected to play nicely in Eon’s sandbox…
In just the last few years he has walked away from “It,” “The Alienist,” and “True Detective,” and none on good terms. It’s an odd choice for someone who will be expected to play nicely in Eon’s sandbox…
He didn't really walk away from True Detective per se. His involvement pretty much ended with season one since it was a finite story. Beyond that though it does seem like he's walked away from other projects like the ones you mentioned so it will be interesting.
I don't think he would walk away from Bond 25...my guess is that EON really vetted this guy after what happened with Boyle. I was happy with Boyle but I guess in hindsight it's no surprise that he walked away from Bond when you recall what he said about never doing another big film after The Beach. Fukunaga is uber talented and from what I have seen, his talents could lend themselves very well to a Bond film or more precisely what works in a Craig Bond film. No matter what ends up coming out of P&W and Hodge's scripts, with Fukunaga at the helm Bond 25 most likely won't be a breezy romp with Daniel Craig calling on his inner Roger Moore. With Fukunaga's taste for long tracking shots, DC better be in good shape. When you see that 6 minute tracking shot from True Detective you can just imagine what kind of fight scene this guy could conjure up for Bond 25. It will be interesting who ends up with the DP job. Fukunaga was his own DP on Beasts of No Nation but Bond may be a little too big a production for that but he still really gets involved in the look of all his films and how they are shot.....something I don't think EON would have an issue with.
To me it sounds like a guy who doesn't put up with studio meddling. Of course he'll be making a lot more than he would with It, so it might be enough to sway him. But In terms of violence, He seems to have a better track record than the Boyle guy. at least Beast of No Nation portrayed war, and with True Detective we get crime and choreography. of course they both would've done a good job without studio meddling, which is what ruined Spectre. Hopefully he can show chaos up front, instead of showing a bunch of smoke and fire on a screen. As for choreography, Daniel & his double had so much more physically demanding work in Skyfall than Spectre, I think they decided he was too old to be jumping around, so they filled the movie with vehicular stunts. True Detective is an example of a good action scene, and Tangier is not. Bond isn't the terminator, he is the guy caught in the crossfire going to rescue the girl and deactivate the warhead.
Has anyone considered that we're all being played with ... let me explain.
They have announced Craig returning as Bond. We also know that a new actor will be playing Bond soon. What if this is the movie where Craig's Bond is in the opening 10mins only to give advice to the new actor (e.g. Elba) who then becomes a 00 and legally changes his identity to James Bond. Thus Craig is back as Bond ... sort of. But it's really the big reveal that Elba is the new "Bond" that we know.
Everything about this Tenure of Bond has been about realism, his ancestry, his weaknesses, his backstory. It would seem to out of place for the producers to just replace the actors face and continue with the continuity.
Haha! My Elba connection/plot not looking so far fetched today is it !
Has anyone considered that we're all being played with ... let me explain.
They have announced Craig returning as Bond. We also know that a new actor will be playing Bond soon. What if this is the movie where Craig's Bond is in the opening 10mins only to give advice to the new actor (e.g. Elba) who then becomes a 00 and legally changes his identity to James Bond. Thus Craig is back as Bond ... sort of. But it's really the big reveal that Elba is the new "Bond" that we know.
Everything about this Tenure of Bond has been about realism, his ancestry, his weaknesses, his backstory. It would seem to out of place for the producers to just replace the actors face and continue with the continuity.
Another character 'becoming' James Bond would be an insult to Ian Fleming's work? I think so. Bond should not be a 'pretend' Bond. Bond should be be Bond, not someone given a new identity and pretending to be Bond. Casino Royale 1967 got away with that plot gimmick (there were several James Bonds in that) - but it was a spoof, not a legitimate Bond film.
Fukunaga likes to be his own cinematographer, but I don't think that's an option for much of Bond25. Adriano Goldman has been the cinematographer for two of his movies: "Sin nombre" and "Jane Eyre". Goldman has won an Emmy for shooting the TV-series "The Crown", won Sundance and American Society of Cinematographers award for "Sin nombre" plus a number of otheer less known awards.
If Fukunaga is allowed to pick his own DoP I bet it's Adriano Goldman.
The delay is a shame, a Bond film missing a traditional release date, but it's only 4 months, and Fukunaga being named as director is a huge positive for a film that's been surrounded by negatives for such a long time, bring it on I say, just a shame I was in my thirties when I last saw Bond and in my forties now.
Of the previous 24 films, I don't think November has been the norm, I seem to remember Christmas and summer release dates.
I guess we'll get the first teaser trailer in June next year, as they have usually come out in March for DC's November released films.
October/November has been the norm since The World Is Not Enough. Tomorrow Never Dies was the last time Bond had a Decemeber release, and before that it was The Man with the Golden Gun.
Thank you Matt for clarifying, I share my birthday with John Barry so seeing a new bond film at the cinema has become a tradition, sadly a long spaced out one.
Fukunaga likes to be his own cinematographer, but I don't think that's an option for much of Bond25. Adriano Goldman has been the cinematographer for two of his movies: "Sin nombre" and "Jane Eyre". Goldman has won an Emmy for shooting the TV-series "The Crown", won Sundance and American Society of Cinematographers award for "Sin nombre" plus a number of otheer less known awards.
If Fukunaga is allowed to pick his own DoP I bet it's Adriano Goldman.
Know what--? I'm just happy the Bond film is back in production. February 2020 is just three months after November 2019, so I can live with it (provided I don't get hit by a bus in January 2020); and I'm interested in seeing what a new director will do. Bring it on!
Goldman could very well end up as DP. He seems to be Fukunaga's go to DP. Based on all the tech info for the films that Goldman has been DP on he is comfortable shooting in just about any format: digital, film, anamorphic 'scope, etc. I am sure Fukunaga has a good idea of how he would like Bond 25 to look. It will however be his first film that will also play in large screen formats like IMAX and Dolby Cinema so I would think that would be taken into consideration when choosing a format or formats to shoot Bond 25. The money will be there for anything he chooses except maybe 70mm film.
The time between Spectre and the new film? WW2 did not take much longer and I think that war involved a little bit more planning than any James Bond film! 8-)
It is good for her I think that Barbara Broccoli works for her self. I do not think she would be able to take so long if she worked for a big studio? There is really no excuse for such time to elapse. What I can not understand is why when Spectre was being filmed that were not working on the next film script and getting the plans ready to film it. Perhaps two and a half years between the films is acceptable but not five years! No body can give reasons only excuses for that. I could accept reasons but never excuses.
If she is not interested any more then she hold sell to some one who is. I think something very spectacular has to be made to justify this time between Spectre and the next film or Barbara Broccoli will do what no enemy has done and kill James Bond!
The time between Spectre and the new film? WW2 did not take much longer and I think that war involved a little bit more planning than any James Bond film! 8-)
It is good for her I think that Barbara Broccoli works for her self. I do not think she would be able to take so long if she worked for a big studio? There is really no excuse for such time to elapse. What I can not understand is why when Spectre was being filmed that were not working on the next film script and getting the plans ready to film it. Perhaps two and a half years between the films is acceptable but not five years! No body can give reasons only excuses for that. I could accept reasons but never excuses.
If she is not interested any more then she hold sell to some one who is. I think something very spectacular has to be made to justify this time between Spectre and the next film or Barbara Broccoli will do what no enemy has done and kill James Bond!
Good thing it isn't going to be five years between these films!
Broccoli has been working on other projects. It's not 4 years and a bit between films for her.
The time between Spectre and the new film? WW2 did not take much longer and I think that war involved a little bit more planning than any James Bond film! 8-)
It is good for her I think that Barbara Broccoli works for her self. I do not think she would be able to take so long if she worked for a big studio? There is really no excuse for such time to elapse. What I can not understand is why when Spectre was being filmed that were not working on the next film script and getting the plans ready to film it. Perhaps two and a half years between the films is acceptable but not five years! No body can give reasons only excuses for that. I could accept reasons but never excuses.
If she is not interested any more then she hold sell to some one who is. I think something very spectacular has to be made to justify this time between Spectre and the next film or Barbara Broccoli will do what no enemy has done and kill James Bond!
I couldn‘t agree more. There is no good reason for them to be taking so long! -{
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I agree - I hope it was just baseless speculation.
But, that is one very odd release date. For a Bond movie, unprecedented. Never been done before.
I never saw True Detective, so I don't know what the director is capable of.
Here is what it is going to land in the middle of (according to Box Office Mojo's release schedule.
Bond is a heavy hitter, sure. But there are also some heavy hitters here, too.
Untitled WB Event Film #3 (2020) (WB) - 2/7
• Nimona (Fox) - 2/14
• Untitled Blumhouse Productions Project I (2020) (Uni.) - 2/14
• Untitled DC Film (Feb 2020) (WB) - 2/14
• Untitled Disney Live Action I (2020) (BV) - 2/14
It'll be better than all of this.
Of course the "untitled DC movie" is a Daniel Craig movie!!! How did they know?
Cue, Fifty Shades of Bond jokes
Maybe there's a romance plot in this one, after all.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Hollywood has discovered winter can be a season for blockbusters. "Black Panther" came out in February and earned $1.3B — that's more than "Skyfall."
I wonder if the new Bond release date will cause some of these other films to move to different dates.
It wouldn't surprise me if the producers of the Midway film new in advance that Bond 25 was going to be delayed and jumped into
that fall slot.
While there is no precedent for a Bond film to be released at that time, Black Panther was released mid February of last year and
that worked out pretty well.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/sep/20/cary-fukunaga-exclusive-interview-new-james-bond-director-netflix-maniac
He has a tendency to quit projects...
Could you imagine if he bailed out, say in February of 2019? Then we'd probably get a delay of another year or more. November 2021..............then Craig bails out leading to another delay...............November 2023....................and on wards.
It’s the Guardian. They hate Bond and what the old fashioned values he stands for. They always put him and the production down.
Haha! My Elba connection/plot not looking so far fetched today is it !
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Another character 'becoming' James Bond would be an insult to Ian Fleming's work? I think so. Bond should not be a 'pretend' Bond. Bond should be be Bond, not someone given a new identity and pretending to be Bond. Casino Royale 1967 got away with that plot gimmick (there were several James Bonds in that) - but it was a spoof, not a legitimate Bond film.
Turn that frown upside down
Wow. That was impressive. If he can bring that amount of focus and tension to Bond we could be in for something special.
Well, no, it didn't and still doesn't!
If Fukunaga is allowed to pick his own DoP I bet it's Adriano Goldman.
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Nice research.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRchOB6T0Mo&t=527s
And Being James Bond's take.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjY_96bryIE
It is good for her I think that Barbara Broccoli works for her self. I do not think she would be able to take so long if she worked for a big studio? There is really no excuse for such time to elapse. What I can not understand is why when Spectre was being filmed that were not working on the next film script and getting the plans ready to film it. Perhaps two and a half years between the films is acceptable but not five years! No body can give reasons only excuses for that. I could accept reasons but never excuses.
If she is not interested any more then she hold sell to some one who is. I think something very spectacular has to be made to justify this time between Spectre and the next film or Barbara Broccoli will do what no enemy has done and kill James Bond!
Good thing it isn't going to be five years between these films!
Broccoli has been working on other projects. It's not 4 years and a bit between films for her.
I couldn‘t agree more. There is no good reason for them to be taking so long! -{
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