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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    edited November 2018
    I am a big Dalton fan also. But I think Dalton was more of a victim of circumstances (the lawsuit) than ditched. From what I gather, Cubby wanted Dalton back even though the USA box office for LTK was disappointing (for a Bond film). IMO, there's a bit of a myth regarding the success of Dalton's tenure as Bond. TLD, as I recall was pretty well received both critically and at the box office in the USA (it was MGM's highest grossing film that year). While Dalton was not beloved in the USA like his predecessors Moore and Connery I don't think he was remotely as reviled as some of his detractors have painted him to be. LTK, while not a perfect Bond film was more a victim of poor decisions by EON in the marketing and release date of the film.

    With regards to Brosnan, IMO, the problem was his last two Bond films, not him.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,341MI6 Agent
    If this doesn't force Higgins out of exile...... :))
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Watched Dalton today on a classic Miss Marple
    Episode, and he still commanded every scene he
    Was in -{
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    Watched Dalton today on a classic Miss Marple
    Episode, and he still commanded every scene he
    Was in -{

    Dalton had almost as much screen presence as Connery, just different.
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,455MI6 Agent
    I blame the vampire casino hairdo in LTK for denying us a third Dalton outing.
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    zaphod99 wrote:
    They also ditched one Bond one film too early.

    I count two....
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    Really, another Moore film after AVTAK surely not :)
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,873Chief of Staff
    :)) :)) :))

    Seriously, Brosnan had at least one more Bond film to go before he started looking too old.
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    :)) :)) :))

    Seriously, Brosnan had at least one more Bond film to go before he started looking too old.

    I could not agree more, he was the 'one too early '
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  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    ggl007 wrote:

    Cue the “Daniel is looking Bond ready!” comments. Meanwhile, I’m sitting here legitimately wondering how this man is going to play Bond three months from now. He looks bad.

    I'm still trying to be optimistic, but the 'optics' are not encouraging. The hair bothers me, my hair grows like wildfire,but in three months it would not have grown enough to recover from that disaster on his head. I was hoping for a slightly longer less thuggy look. Ho-hum. Maybe a Toupe ?
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,588MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    ggl007 wrote:

    Cue the “Daniel is looking Bond ready!” comments. Meanwhile, I’m sitting here legitimately wondering how this man is going to play Bond three months from now. He looks bad.

    I'm still trying to be optimistic, but the 'optics' are not encouraging. The hair bothers me, my hair grows like wildfire,but in three months it would not have grown enough to recover from that disaster on his head. I was hoping for a slightly longer less thuggy look. Ho-hum. Maybe a Toupe ?

    Don't underestimate the wonders of movie hair and make-up. DC's make-up for Knives Out is probably deliberate to make him look like a cop who has seen it all and been aged by it.
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    zaphod99 wrote:

    Cue the “Daniel is looking Bond ready!” comments. Meanwhile, I’m sitting here legitimately wondering how this man is going to play Bond three months from now. He looks bad.

    I'm still trying to be optimistic, but the 'optics' are not encouraging. The hair bothers me, my hair grows like wildfire,but in three months it would not have grown enough to recover from that disaster on his head. I was hoping for a slightly longer less thuggy look. Ho-hum. Maybe a Toupe ?

    Don't underestimate the wonders of movie hair and make-up. DC's make-up for Knives Out is probably deliberate to make him look like a cop who has seen it all and been aged by it.

    Let's hope so. I believe that Brozzer may have had a 'Piece ' of some sort in DAD. If he did it was a jolly good one.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,873Chief of Staff
    Hmm, don't think so. Possibly some hair thickener, though.
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    zaphod99 wrote:

    I'm still trying to be optimistic, but the 'optics' are not encouraging. The hair bothers me, my hair grows like wildfire,but in three months it would not have grown enough to recover from that disaster on his head. I was hoping for a slightly longer less thuggy look. Ho-hum. Maybe a Toupe ?

    Don't underestimate the wonders of movie hair and make-up. DC's make-up for Knives Out is probably deliberate to make him look like a cop who has seen it all and been aged by it.

    Let's hope so. I believe that Brozzer may have had a 'Piece ' of some sort in DAD. If he did it was a jolly good one.

    Don‘t know where that‘s coming from. Looking at pics of him during the early to mid 2000s, his hair looks in the movie as it did in real life ?:)
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  • Arbogast 777Arbogast 777 Minneapolis Posts: 595MI6 Agent
    Don‘t know where that‘s coming from. Looking at pics of him during the early to mid 2000s, his hair looks in the movie as it did in real life 

    You don’t think if he does wear something there’s a chance he wears it in real life, too?
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    Don‘t know where that‘s coming from. Looking at pics of him during the early to mid 2000s, his hair looks in the movie as it did in real life 

    You don’t think if he does wear something there’s a chance he wears it in real life, too?

    I actually think he doesn‘t wear anything at all :v
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  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Don‘t know where that‘s coming from. Looking at pics of him during the early to mid 2000s, his hair looks in the movie as it did in real life 

    You don’t think if he does wear something there’s a chance he wears it in real life, too?

    I actually think he doesn‘t wear anything at all :v

    Not exactly science as I dimly recall something but cannot remember from where. Just chalk it up to diminished responsibility and old age. I was really talking about how short Daniel's hair looked and wondering if it has time to grow into something acceptable by March and not commenting that he's particularly thining. .
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  • Arbogast 777Arbogast 777 Minneapolis Posts: 595MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    I was really talking about how short Daniel's  hair looked and wondering if it has time to grow into something acceptable by March

    I think this is at least as long than he’s ever had it as Bond (QoS maybe?) so I think he’ll be fine...


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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:

    You don’t think if he does wear something there’s a chance he wears it in real life, too?

    I actually think he doesn‘t wear anything at all :v

    Not exactly science as I dimly recall something but cannot remember from where. Just chalk it up to diminished responsibility and old age. I was really talking about how short Daniel's hair looked and wondering if it has time to grow into something acceptable by March and not commenting that he's particularly thining. .

    Brosnan wore a piece in DAD and wears something occasionally in real life. I have seen him with his natural hair, and there’s no way his hair can look as thin as that and later look very thick. Lazenby is the only Bond actor so far with thick hair in his later years. Unless he also wears a piece...
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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    They do hair "enhancement" so well in movies these days, you can't even compare it with the "rugs" you see on some people's heads in real life. I say "enhancement" because what they do looks good in the camera, probably wouldn't look so good in person. With all the CGI trickery these days they can probably give you a full head of hair in post production. Anyway, say what you will about Craig, despite a bad haircut here and there he still appears to have most of his hair for whatever that's worth.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,873Chief of Staff
    Matt S wrote:
    Brosnan wore a piece in DAD

    This one? :D

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  • DanielCDanielC Posts: 65MI6 Agent
    Daniel has really aged in a quite short time. I'm not to pleased with Bond 25 being pushed back to 2020.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,341MI6 Agent
    I doubt he's aged enough in the five months of delay to be visible on the screen ….
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I doubt he's age enough in the five months of delay to be visible on the screen ….

    I agree with that. It’s more about the five years that have passed since he last filmed Bond.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I doubt he's age enough in the five months of delay to be visible on the screen ….

    I agree with that. It’s more about the five years that have passed since he last filmed Bond.

    Thankfully a little over four years is not five years.
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  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    I doubt he's age enough in the five months of delay to be visible on the screen ….

    I agree with that. It’s more about the five years that have passed since he last filmed Bond.

    Thankfully a little over four years is not five years.

    4, 5, The point is it's been a while. Loving your Blog BTW. The Sprezzatura piece is superb. Daniel looks great in that Omega add, the greying hair is a good look for him (possibly lighting rather than colouring) when was it taken?
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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    DanielC wrote:
    Daniel has really aged in a quite short time. I'm not to pleased with Bond 25 being pushed back to 2020.

    I'm hoping EON can get their new and improved Hyperbolic Bond Youth Restoration Chamber up and running for Craig prior to the start of filming in March. If not, the way things look right now, we'll be lucky if he is able to begin filming by March without assistance walking much less running, etc. That being said, all is not lost, a special turbocharged, armed wheelchair is being developed by the Special Effects people. Also, the catering people have been put on notice to be ready to supply soft easily chewed food just in case for the elderly Craig. :s :)) ;)
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,873Chief of Staff
    Oh, you're exaggerating there Howard! While I am far from Craig's biggest fan he's still younger than Connery was in NSNA and Moore in... well, you name it.
    I've never been against a 50'ish Bond if the actor has been established as Bond in several movies which Craig has certainly been. It's too old for an actor to begin as Bond (yes, I'm looking at you Idris Elba) but it isn't too old for an actor to continue as Bond.
  • Arbogast 777Arbogast 777 Minneapolis Posts: 595MI6 Agent
    It’s hard to judge based on age alone. Compare how youthful Moore looked in LALD compared to Connery in DAF, even though Moore is 3 years older...
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Oh, you're exaggerating there Howard! While I am far from Craig's biggest fan he's still younger than Connery was in NSNA and Moore in... well, you name it.
    I've never been against a 50'ish Bond if the actor has been established as Bond in several movies which Craig has certainly been. It's too old for an actor to begin as Bond (yes, I'm looking at you Idris Elba) but it isn't too old for an actor to continue as Bond.

    Just a little sarcasm in response to all the concerns regarding how "old" and "done" Craig looks.
    My money is on Craig appearing a bit older, but still more than up to the task of playing a believable and formidable Bond.
    IMO, they fast forwarded and played up the Bond past his prime thing too prematurely in SF. They could have just played up
    the fact that he had been seriously wounded and was still not fully recuperated and out of action for too long angle and saved the age thing for Craig's last outing when it would make more sense.
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,455MI6 Agent
    I've never understood why they went for the "we're both played out" theme for SKYFALL. It wasn't particularly relevant to the rest of the story: Silva's revenge, hacking, etc. The effect was to sabotage Craig's tenure thereafter. But I guess EON made a bet and it paid off bigger than anyone imagined, and they've been living with the consequences ever since.

    FWIW everyone here is freaking out about Craig's age but none of us has seen the script. For all we know, the story is about an older Bond coming out of retirement. We have no clue. So how about we ease up on the before-the-fact AVTAK and DAF comparisons.
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