The not so short lived non argumentative political thread.
Chriscoop
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Like it or not (sorry Barbel {:)) but politics is everywhere these days, from Trump, North Korea, Modern genocide to the recent German election and Brexit. As ADULTS we should be able to have an open chat about such things and not give the mods cause for sleepless nights, we ARE all entitled to our opinions and so far every political thread has been removed due to personal attacks and general intolerance of others opinions. Remember it's not personal it's politics, and if you can't discuss without making things personal and throwing insults then don't post. I'd also like to say that as this is an international thread please be aware of others sensibilities.
It was either that.....or the priesthood
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Just want to make a prediction, as despite the best of intentions, we'll end up
name calling and general bitching.
Can I start by saying that Asp9mm is a stupid moron?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
"Naughty Step" is that the new code word for that Plug thing ?
Im sure I don't know what you mean ;%
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We might just survive Donald and Kim.
Maybe he shows here up sooner when I mention how silly men look when wearing skirts
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I'm curious: what was the original title of the thread and why wasn't my name in there (or was it)?
Voting, Should it be compulsory ?
I also wonder if such a law will be enforced.
like this Italian politician ( Don't know her politics, ..... but as for votes,.... I'd give her one )
A short list of countries with compulsory voting.
I'm not sure. The Green Party have the hottest politicians here in Norway, but they still got only 3.2% of the votes. Can it be that only Italians vote based on hottness? (and me too, obviously)
Just to be clear: As Chriscoop said in the opener, sooner or later political threads here degenerate into personal attacks* which can't be tolerated. If we can do as he suggests and discuss things like adults then ok. If not then we all know what has happened in the past.
* aside from the usual Higgins/Asp9mm stuff
On-topic: interesting though predictable result in the German election. Merkel has some hard work to do.
I think that it's a good idea not wearing a skirt on an elevated stage - I mean - nobody really wants to see that ;%
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I've said most of it yesterday in the off-topic.
At the surface - nothing will change as Merkel will continue.
If you look a bit deeper, Merkel lost almost 9% and is now at 33% and needs 3 more parties to continue.
1. The Bavarian Sister CSU who lost over 10% in Bavaria and are gutted because they left the right flank open and may radicalise themselves to get voters back. That will mean more trouble for Merkel's modest direction - particularly in the context of refugees and Europe.
2. The Liberal democrats who have strong disagreements with 3. and are driving a non-solidaric course in terms of the EU.
3. The Green Party who mostly support Merkel's past course.
So building a working government will not be easy and the tone in her party will get more radical nationalist and far right.
I don't think that this will be successful as you can't beat the rightwinger Populist by being similarly radical and populist (as you'd lose the modest voters that way).
What upsets me most is the success of the far right with almost 13%, they are over 20% in all east German states who all suffered under the Communist regime before the reunification.
And it saddens me that you can mobilise the German people with hate and xenophobia.
I've said it in the other thread. I had a chat with someone from AfD last week and when he bemoaned the "unlawful" behaviour in the refugee crisis and I told him that it would be like me driving him to hospital in an emergency and he later tells me that I was breaking the law by speeding.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
It seems populist movements are increasing across the world. Is this due to what some perceive to be unchecked immigration, and the increasingly diverse national make-ups which make some people nervous? I think social media plays a part in all this too, fuelling xenophobia everywhere.
That's one reason why I took the plunge and risked the wrath of Barbel by starting this one.
There is a genuine desire for some to discuss politics and I know this is a Bond forum but as others have said ajb feels like a group of friends chatting so at least this way it stops political talk from seeping into the other threads. I'm glad Barbel is giving us the rope to freely talk nicely
...Let's not use it to hang ourselves.
I've read an interesting article on that topic.
At the beginning of the year, it was consensus that the majority of "protest voters" come from lowly educated low income parts of the society that where losers of the globalisation and the wealth gap.
To fight the populists on that field, a main topic from the parties from the middle was equity and more fairness and so on.
Recent analysis showed, that the supporters are rather "culturally motivated".
I'll put it mildly - not all of them are that modest - that means that they focus on nationalism, tradition, security cultural social and religious unity.
They don't want empathy, openess, diversification and liberalism.
The author of that study closed the article that he does not want to imagine what the mainstream parties would have communicated if they'd tried to win the protest campers with the adjusted motivation.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
People who ordinarily don't give such matters much thought are all of a sudden discussing things like immigration and how bad it's got which then in turn affects how they vote. And yes social media is a perfect way to spread misinformation.
- Close the own fronts "because we are under attack" (by the media, by the evil and corrupt government and so on) and "we must get back control".
- Stir hate and loathe on people who are weaker (minorities by nation, income, religion etc.) to make yourself feel better/superior.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!