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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    There has been a conflict between Quatar and some other Arab nations for a while, particularely Saudi Arabia. Quatar has been boycoted for a while, but now Saudi Arabia is planning to steps it up:
    They may TURN QUATAR INTO AN ISLAND ! :o :))

    Quatar is a peninsula and Saudi Arabia could actually dig a huge mote at the border....
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Watching Newsnight it would seem Angela Merkel, may
    Not be in charge in Germany very much longer ?
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,462Chief of Staff
    It depends on what she brings back from the EU summit, and if that satisfies Herr Seehoffer and the CSU. She can't fire him since she needs his party's support or her coalition will collapse.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5895353/France-brings-national-service-16-year-olds.html
    I bet that student who called the French President by his
    Nickname, is now regretting it :D as France brings back
    National service.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    edited June 2018
    I wonder if it will work? Sweden brought back national service because the military simply couldn't recruited enough people for a professional defence force. National Service can be a great recruitment tool and gives people a conection to the armed forces. But are young people in France open to it?
    Will it work for poor immigrant youth in the suburbs, I wonder?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    Speaking of immigrant ion - have you noticed that every EU summit seems to be a crisis meeting? :v
    His time: the east-European members need EU economic support, but they don't want (muslim) immigrants. The Mediteranian members have lots of immigrant s regard les if they want them or not, but they too need EU money. France, Germany and Sweden may still welcome immigrants, but they have the money and if no-one else takes the immigrants they will get all of them.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    Trump: "The EU was set up, of course, to take advantage of the US."

    President Trump forget that one of the US' great a advantages has been its great ability to attract allies, not pushing them away.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Allies are for pussies !! and we all know how he feels about those :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    To be fair (and I try to be :) ) :
    CHYNA! has given foreign companies access to key industriens like railways and car production, something that i likely to be a positive result of Trump's trade war.
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Oh dear ...

    What do they say about revenge being a dish best served cold ..... My favourite story of the day.


    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/row-breaks-out-over-giant-baby-donald-trump-blimp-which-will-be-flown-over-london-during-us-a3880581.html
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    I think the balloon is unfair to the president. I think he has the maturity of a 10 or 12 year old.
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    I think all the politicians are a it sick of his antics.

    I believe they initially they tried to show respect to the office of President but Trump's killed that stone dead.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    Trump was in Montana recently and held a rally for his supporters. He spoke very highly of Putin, as usual. What was new was his attack on president Bush sr. (94), the best Republican president in my liftime IMO. Trump has no shame.
  • Arbogast 777Arbogast 777 Minneapolis Posts: 595MI6 Agent
    As somebody who considers my politics to be moderate, I often find myself deeply researching issues because I don’t have a party line to toe. I have been looking into this “locking children in cages” story. All I see is protests, people apologizing for the US, comparing Trump to Hitler, etc.

    I am obviously against the practice, but as near as I can tell, this was going on before Trump even entered politics, and I’m looking for someone to explain to me why nobody spoke out about this before. Why were previous administrations not given any criticism? What am I missing here?

    A few points to consider:

    Here is an article from June 2014, when Obama was President, clearly showing children in cages. As a matter of fact, some of these pictures are still being used to protest Trump.

    https://www.azcentral.com/picture-gallery/news/politics/immigration/2014/06/18/first-glimpse-of-immigrant-children-at-holding-facility/10808687/

    Here is Obama’s speechwriter, Jon Favreau, using one of those pictures to decry the Trump administration, when it was HIS administration that did it. I don’t remember him expressing any outrage then. The tweet has since been deleted...

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    Also in 2014, Congressman Jim McGovern toured the same facility that protestors have now surrounded. If you look through the news archives of his own site you can still see the story he posted. Children in cells and cages are clearly seen.

    He said at the time “As a father, it was heartbreaking to see these kids in small, crowded holding cells. They are not criminals. They are children in need of protection.”

    https://mcgovern.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=396628#PHotos

    Lastly, here is CNN, hardly a pro-Trump outlet, asking Senator Tammy Baldwin why she is only speaking up about this issue now. I would argue the same question could have been asked to the reporter herself.

    https://youtu.be/t2rS5hK12sw

    So what am I missing here, guys? This was an issue clearly being reported on in the news and social media before Trump took office, so why has this only now become an issue? Why didn’t Obama receive the same heat that Trump now is?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    To be honest I know nothing about these cages. Can anyone help?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    With David Davis and Boris Johnston now Gone, ... will Theresa May be next to go ? ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    And if May is forced out, who will be the next PM?
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,462Chief of Staff
    That depends on whether May's (possible) departure forces an election, owing to her running a minority government propped up by the DUP and their reaction to it.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    DUP = Daredevil Unsung Patriots, right? :v
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,462Chief of Staff
    Better ask TP, he knows more about them than I do!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Democratic Unionist Party. They're ......
    Anti- gay rights, anti- pro choice, anti - everything really :))
    Although they did get an extra Billion pounds for us in
    Their deal with T May ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    How nice...
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,462Chief of Staff
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  • IanFryerIanFryer Posts: 327MI6 Agent
    With David Davis and Boris Johnston now Gone, ... will Theresa May be next to go ? ;)

    I kinda hope May hangs on a bit longer, just so David and Johnson's replacements can be seen to be demonstrably better at their jobs then these two lazy incompetents.

    In Johnson's case, this utter buffoon must be the worst British Foreign Secretary in the history of the position. All the leaks from the Foreign Office indicate that they are more than glad to see the back of him.

    Too many in British politics want power without responsibility - obviously never read Spider-Man when they were growing up!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    As soon as the EU reject May's plan ( and they will ) ;)
    stand by for all out civil war in the Conservative party.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    But will the Labour Party manage to exploit it?
  • IanFryerIanFryer Posts: 327MI6 Agent
    One can only hope. The difficulty they have is that much of what Labour says and does is simply never reported in major media outlets.

    The BBC, however, feels that it is vital that we learn the views of Jacob Rees-Mogg on any given subject as soon as possible.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    edited July 2018
    Who is the most likely to take over if May steps down?
    Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, David Davis, Jeremy Corbyn or someone else?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,157MI6 Agent
    It looks to me like this government has last quite a lot of bargaining power since negotiations started.
    First the ill-judged election, then this. It's not bargaining from a position of strengt, is it?
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,462Chief of Staff
    IanFryer wrote:
    One can only hope. The difficulty they have is that much of what Labour says and does is simply never reported in major media outlets.

    The BBC, however, feels that it is vital that we learn the views of Jacob Rees-Mogg on any given subject as soon as possible.

    +1
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