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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    What is more appalling is the fact that with the graves of D-Day veterans in his back, he has nothing else in mind then putting nasty words about his main opponent, Nancy Pelosi.
    And he's outraged by a comment that she wants to see in Jail. How can she do that to "Lock her Up" Trump.

    Additionally it's reported that because of this Fox interview, he arrived too late at the ceremony, holding up everyone, including veterans and heads of states. Shows where his priorities really are....
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I remember one Tony Blair berating Farage for his attitude towards the EU parliament, he got quite angry and said something along the lines of "that is no way to talk about our neighbours and Friends" seems some in the EU don't share Blairs sentiments either.

    There is nothing more friendly attitude against your neighbors like threatening to put their economies in crisis with a Hard Brexit if they don‘t budge during the negotiations :D ;)

    And then bemoan ( wrongly) that they are out to punish you if that doesn‘t work.
    I know 3 year olds that are better than this ;)
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    No need to bring three year-olds into this, Higgins.

    I'm no fan of president Duterte in the Philippines, the country did something I applaud the other day. They sent tonnes of rubbish falsely labeled as plastic back to Canada! The West should handle their own rubbish and make less of it too, not send it to poorer countries.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48455440
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Ok, I have 2 year olds who are better than this.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Stephen Fry on the Brexit Party's plans to turn Britain into a tax haven for the rich:

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=stephen+fry+Brexit&&view=detail&mid=D0A6AC438E8F61D4BB34D0A6AC438E8F61D4BB34&&FORM=VRDGAR
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I find it funny that almost everyone running for leader of
    The Conservatives, can't wait to confess to trying Drugs
    It's as if they're trying to out do each other. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • 007Downunder007Downunder Hobart, Australia Posts: 374MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    What is more appalling is the fact that with the graves of D-Day veterans in his back, he has nothing else in mind then putting nasty words about his main opponent, Nancy Pelosi.
    And he's outraged by a comment that she wants to see in Jail. How can she do that to "Lock her Up" Trump.

    Additionally it's reported that because of this Fox interview, he arrived too late at the ceremony, holding up everyone, including veterans and heads of states. Shows where his priorities really are....
    False Halle Jackson of NBC tweeted this it went viral of course. Then Jonathan Lemire of AP ( no fan of Trump) stated the reason for the delay was Macron hadn’t arrived. Not surprisingly the correction did not receive the coverage that the erroneous report did
    Anthony
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    You can hear at the end of the interview that Macron‘s helicopter arrives.
    And it‘s a pretty long walk from the interview to the place where the celebrations are.

    I‘d say that it would take him at least 15 minutes by walk or by car - but anyhow.
    The interview shows what really was in his mind - no matter if he was holding up everyone ( would not be the first time) or not.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7119835/MP-Chuka-Umunna-stand-Liberal-Democrats-safe-Labour-South-London-constituency.html?ito=rss-google-news
    Chuka Umunna after being Labour, then leaving to set up
    Change UK, is to now be a Lib Dem. So obviously a man of
    Principle and great political convictions :)) ...... or desperate
    For a job.

    Nice to see from the post above that even when, it's Macron
    Who caused the delay, Some still twist the facts to blame
    Trump :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Winston Churchill changed from the Tories to the Lib Dems and back to the Tories ….
  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Winston Churchill changed from the Tories to the Lib Dems and back to the Tories ….

    Fundamental difference being that it wasn't over the course of circa 8 weeks of course ... ;)
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I can't see anything wrong in changing parties keeping in mind that that Tories and Labour are divided in half over their stand on Brexit.

    This entire drama is going on for 3 years now (not counting the campaining) and Corbyn's role was more than embarrassing over that period. So if the change of mind developed over 8 weeks or 3 years, is debatable. I can't blame any MP for leaving both parties after the desaster that they have fabricated over the time.

    Have any prominent Tory MPs changed to Ukip or Brexit Party* recently

    *Will the Brexit Party run in any parliamentary election after a Brexit - and if yes, with which agenda I wonder
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Ens007 wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    Winston Churchill changed from the Tories to the Lib Dems and back to the Tories ….

    Fundamental difference being that it wasn't over the course of circa 8 weeks of course ... ;)

    True :))

    In his defence, the parties and British politics has become very fractured and chaotic lately.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    He also stood for Labour Leader, ...... before once again changing his
    Mind and pulling out of the competition. So in my opinion he seems
    very indecisive, just what you need when making decisions :D .....
    ..... So he'll be a perfect Lib Dem ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    On the other hand you just know he'll be right about something at some point :D
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Where as, I'm Right All the time :p
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Winston Churchill changed from the Tories to the Lib Dems and back to the Tories ….

    A small correction, N24:

    It was the Liberal Party in those days and still a party of government up until 1922. It only became the Liberal Democrats in 1989 after the Social Democratic Party (a breakaway party from Labour formed in 1981) merged with the Liberals in 1988.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    You're right, of course. It's been years since I read Jennings' biography so the mistake slipped in.
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    edited June 2019
    I find it funny that almost everyone running for leader of
    The Conservatives, can't wait to confess to trying Drugs
    It's as if they're trying to out do each other. :))

    You don't have to have taken illegal drugs to run for the Tory leadership but it certainly helps! :))
    Number24 wrote:
    You're right, of course. It's been years since I read Jennings' biography so the mistake slipped in.

    Not to worry, N24. We all make mistakes. :)
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    A quote from Reginald Maudling when put in charge of N.Ireland

    " Of course bring me a large scotch ! What a god awful country "
    :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    A quote from Reginald Maudling when put in charge of N.Ireland

    " Of course bring me a large scotch ! What a god awful country "
    :))

    Yes, and it's a little known fact that Maudling was a friend of Ian Fleming's. -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    I can't see anything wrong in changing parties keeping in mind that that Tories and Labour are divided in half over their stand on Brexit.

    This entire drama is going on for 3 years now (not counting the campaining) and Corbyn's role was more than embarrassing over that period. So if the change of mind developed over 8 weeks or 3 years, is debatable. I can't blame any MP for leaving both parties after the desaster that they have fabricated over the time.

    Have any prominent Tory MPs changed to Ukip or Brexit Party* recently

    *Will the Brexit Party run in any parliamentary election after a Brexit - and if yes, with which agenda I wonder

    Anne Widdecombe has moved from tory to brexit, though she wasn't a serving MP she was a card carrying Tory.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    edited June 2019
    New polls show Trump will lose next year to every major Democratic candidate. Personally I'm not sure at all. Trump has to major advantages: a very good economy and a voter base that automatically belives every negative press report about Trump is a lie.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-2020-polls-biden-bernie-sanders-buttigeig-warren-a8955346.html
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    He also has a >30% voter base who will elect him - no matter what
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Pay no attention to any poll. If they were accurate, Hillary would have won in a landslide in 2016.
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Polls can be off by 2-3 %, so that has to be factored in. We alse need to remember the polls said Hillary would get the majority of the votes. and she did. Trump himself and some of his voters believe the polling companies are cheating (without any proof - they never seem to need any), and by doing so I fear they don't reply to polls and making polls less reliable that way.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    The 2020 candidate that's impressed me so far is Pete Buttigieg, but he would be a stronger candidate if he at least had some state-Level political experience. Has a mayor ever won the White House? I can't think of any.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    edited June 2019
    The tension between the US and Iran is very worrying. Will there be war? Trump claims he stopped a bombing raid on Iran ten minutes before it was supposed to start. That's good if it really happened, but we only have Trump's word for it and he can lie about what he had for dinner just out of old habit.

    A war in the Gulf will be very bad for the region (even though Saudi Arabia and Israel may not mind to much), and it will also be bad for the world economy. The Norwegian Finance Minister probably sees the matter differently, since war in the Middle East is GREAT news for our economy …. :


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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    " War what is it good for ..... " Well Arms Sales obviously ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    War in the Gulf is always great for oil producers in other parts of the world :D
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