Never Say McClory Again (NSNA fan edit) - HD Version Released

007homevideo007homevideo AustraliaPosts: 11MI6 Agent
edited March 2018 in The James Bond Films
Hello fellow Bond-fanciers.

An HD version of the 'Eonised' version of NSNA, Never Say McClory Again, has been released.

While fundamentally the same edit, several alterations have been made for the HD version:

NEW 1080p HD video sourced from the official Blu-ray
NEW custom gunbarrel
NEW main titles music - Phyllis Hayman
NEW main titles credits
NEW Dolby Digital 3.0 (L, C, R) soundtrack
NEW isolated stereo music track (Dolby Digital 2.0)
NEW end-titles music
NEW sound effects added in a couple of scenes
REJIGGED scenes x 3
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Did you manage to do anything about Connery's rubbish wig? :D

    But seriously, this is good news and for anyone who hasn't seen McClory Again I do recommend it. It wasn't my fave Bond movie (or anyone's probably) but 007HomeVideo's improvements make it quite watchable (I doubt he'll be using that quote on the posters...)

    One snag was the poor visual quality and that has now been rectified.
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  • jamesm123jamesm123 LondonPosts: 184MI6 Agent
    How do I see this? Been wanting to for many years. I'm guessing it's a PM situation?
  • michaelbrianclarkemichaelbrianclarke Posts: 1MI6 Agent
    Sent you a message!
  • Jimmy BondJimmy Bond Posts: 324MI6 Agent
    Wonder if it boasts a new score exclusive to this. A very talented guy did some samples of his own scoring, showcased on YT, and they're really great!
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    I just found this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76E0TEOaTZ4

    It's much better than the edit with the EON Bond films' music. When music from other scenes is played through NSNA, it reminds me how much better the scenes the music was originally written for are. And using different cues from different Bond films with different styles of music just feels jumpy and inconsistent. But original 1980s-Barry-style music in NSNA really elevated that scene.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I love watching the attack, with they guys holding their ears. As I imagine they've just heard
    M Legrand's god awful score :))
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  • Jimmy BondJimmy Bond Posts: 324MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I just found this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76E0TEOaTZ4

    It's much better than the edit with the EON Bond films' music. When music from other scenes is played through NSNA, it reminds me how much better the scenes the music was originally written for are. And using different cues from different Bond films with different styles of music just feels jumpy and inconsistent. But original 1980s-Barry-style music in NSNA really elevated that scene.
    Yes, that was the one I was refering to, earlier. And you're right, a fitting score can really elevate the material greatly.

    That being said, I did like some cues in the original NSMcA cut where the cues did fit together well, most noticeably the YOLT and MR bits in the chateau, when Bond finds Nicole killed. And I like Bond '77 in the bike chase, despite not being liked by most fans.
  • Enjoying DeathEnjoying Death Toronto, ON CANADAPosts: 1,248MI6 Agent
    007homevideo wrote:
    Hello fellow Bond-fanciers.

    An HD version of the 'Eonised' version of NSNA, Never Say McClory Again, has been released.

    While fundamentally the same edit, several alterations have been made for the HD version:

    NEW 1080p HD video sourced from the official Blu-ray
    NEW custom gunbarrel
    NEW main titles music - Phyllis Hayman
    NEW main titles credits
    NEW Dolby Digital 3.0 (L, C, R) soundtrack
    NEW isolated stereo music track (Dolby Digital 2.0)
    NEW end-titles music
    NEW sound effects added in a couple of scenes
    REJIGGED scenes x 3

    Where can we see this? -{
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Jimmy Bond wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    I just found this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76E0TEOaTZ4

    It's much better than the edit with the EON Bond films' music. When music from other scenes is played through NSNA, it reminds me how much better the scenes the music was originally written for are. And using different cues from different Bond films with different styles of music just feels jumpy and inconsistent. But original 1980s-Barry-style music in NSNA really elevated that scene.
    Yes, that was the one I was refering to, earlier. And you're right, a fitting score can really elevate the material greatly.

    That being said, I did like some cues in the original NSMcA cut where the cues did fit together well, most noticeably the YOLT and MR bits in the chateau, when Bond finds Nicole killed. And I like Bond '77 in the bike chase, despite not being liked by most fans.

    I like all those cues, and I like the films where they came from. But when they are put into NSNA all I can think of are the films where I first heard the music, and all those different style of music are jarring, especially Bond 77. I highly prefer NSNA with Legrand's music over cut-and-paste music, even if Legrand's music is inferior Bond music. Music from other films was a huge distraction when watching the edited version. Far more than Lawrence of Arabia was in TSWLM.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,870Chief of Staff
    Enjoying Death wrote:
    007homevideo wrote:
    Hello fellow Bond-fanciers.

    An HD version of the 'Eonised' version of NSNA, Never Say McClory Again, has been released.

    While fundamentally the same edit, several alterations have been made for the HD version:

    NEW 1080p HD video sourced from the official Blu-ray
    NEW custom gunbarrel
    NEW main titles music - Phyllis Hayman
    NEW main titles credits
    NEW Dolby Digital 3.0 (L, C, R) soundtrack
    NEW isolated stereo music track (Dolby Digital 2.0)
    NEW end-titles music
    NEW sound effects added in a couple of scenes
    REJIGGED scenes x 3

    Where can we see this? -{

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  • Enjoying DeathEnjoying Death Toronto, ON CANADAPosts: 1,248MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Enjoying Death wrote:
    007homevideo wrote:
    Hello fellow Bond-fanciers.

    An HD version of the 'Eonised' version of NSNA, Never Say McClory Again, has been released.

    While fundamentally the same edit, several alterations have been made for the HD version:

    NEW 1080p HD video sourced from the official Blu-ray
    NEW custom gunbarrel
    NEW main titles music - Phyllis Hayman
    NEW main titles credits
    NEW Dolby Digital 3.0 (L, C, R) soundtrack
    NEW isolated stereo music track (Dolby Digital 2.0)
    NEW end-titles music
    NEW sound effects added in a couple of scenes
    REJIGGED scenes x 3

    Where can we see this? -{

    AJB007 does not condone sharing unofficial edits of movies which may infringe on copyright. Posts discussing such edits are permitted.

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    Got it! ;)
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  • Jimmy BondJimmy Bond Posts: 324MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I like all those cues, and I like the films where they came from. But when they are put into NSNA all I can think of are the films where I first heard the music, and all those different style of music are jarring, especially Bond 77. I highly prefer NSNA with Legrand's music over cut-and-paste music, even if Legrand's music is inferior Bond music. Music from other films was a huge distraction when watching the edited version. Far more than Lawrence of Arabia was in TSWLM.
    A more balanced compromise for a fan-edit, I think, is this: The classic Connory gunbarrel, and it starts with an edited rendition of Legrand's ommited intention for it, until Bond shoot, where a 60's rendition of the Bond theme would appear. The rest of the film would be the Legrand score, with occassional sprinkles of cues from the past for the sake of giving the impression this is the same Bond as not only Connery of old, but also Lazenby and Moore. And most importantly, the 007 theme in the climactic fight. I think this would both represent the score intended for the film, such as it is, but also the most included Bond elements Legrand would surely had used had he been allowed to.
  • 007homevideo007homevideo AustraliaPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I highly prefer NSNA with Legrand's music over cut-and-paste music,

    I certainly 'get' where you are coming from. NSMcA is merely a fan-edit put together by, well, a fan who thought it'd be a bit of fun and nothing more.

    However, I disagree with the phrase, 'cut-and-paste music'. The majority of the music cues were not just slapped under the existing NSNA soundtrack in the hope they would 'time out' nicely. Considerable time was spent on editing the 'new' cues so they would match the on-screen action.

    This editing included condensing, or extending a track via careful cutting, trimming, and mixing. Certain 'new' passages are actually blended tracks from the same 'film' soundtrack e.g. Bond discovering Nicole's body combines elements from two YOLT cues.

    Additionally, in the parts of NSNA where Legrand's originally was, the 'sound effects' track had to be reconstituted from scratch because when you remove music, sound effects go with it.

    That said, I certainly acknowledge that NSMcA is not everyone's glass of vodka-martini.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    With so long between Bond films, the neutral fan could certainly do worse than get hold of a copy of this 'new' Bond film. I do wonder if the person behind it might not put a new score over a movie like For Your Eyes Only?
    Personally I'd like to see Michel Legrand's score pasted over Moonraker! :D
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  • Jimmy BondJimmy Bond Posts: 324MI6 Agent
    I'd like to have seen Legrand's music GE!

    But seriously, there is a good argument about keeping Legrand's score in the said film. I just think some Bondian theme do need to be added, like the 007 theme in the climactic Tears of Allah scene and of course, the Bond theme throughout. I'd be tempted to do it myself, actually, if I had at all the time.
  • SilentSpySilentSpy Private Exotic AreaPosts: 765MI6 Agent
    They need to make an official director's cut of the movie. There are a few articles from the director about cut scenes that could be included.
    "Better late than never."
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    They've been banging on about that for decades. Since then, most of the key participants have died, such as Kershner and McClory.
    Connery doesn't care about it.
    And EON hate the film.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Napoleon Plural wrote:
    They've been banging on about that for decades. Since then, most of the key participants have died, such as Kershner and McClory.
    Connery doesn't care about it.
    And EON hate the film.

    I don't see anything coming of this film. If EON sell the Bond franchise, maybe the next owners would be more interested in doing something with the film. But I honestly don't imagine anyone would be able to salvage the film.
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  • Jimmy BondJimmy Bond Posts: 324MI6 Agent
    Yeah, salvage this film, because it's such a dreck... to those who dislike the film a great deal, and certainly not those who do like it.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    edited May 2019
    Being bored today I grabbed a few fan edits. Casino Royale, Thunderball Warhead Edition and this one.

    I can see how they are controversial however some have pretty cool ideas.

    The one I'm hunting is Thunderball: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang cut. Apparently it takes out Connery blackmailing in the steamroom and cuts a fair bit of underwater stuff.

    Would be nice if a entire colour corrected SPECTRE surfaced after that cool PTS teaser version
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  • theavengerbuttontheavengerbutton Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    Ooh, I should have known that there would be Bond film fan-edits. I would like to maybe inquire a little more details about this particular piece in PMs if anyone has the time.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,949MI6 Agent
    This would be fun to watch, I wonder who might be best to send a PM to about what they thought of it...?
  • SilentSpySilentSpy Private Exotic AreaPosts: 765MI6 Agent
    I need to find that magazine that talked about the cut scenes the director wanted to add. I think it was a Cinefex or American Cinematographer.
    "Better late than never."
  • gentleman85gentleman85 EnglandPosts: 3MI6 Agent
    Does anybody know where I can get hold of the latest version of Never Say McClory Again and any other fan edits?

    Thanks,
    Ben
  • skaro66skaro66 Stoke-on-TrentPosts: 3MI6 Agent
    My partner and I are having a 007 lottery every Saturday night. We put the names of all the EON movies plus NSNA into an envelope, the M-velope :)) and pick out one at random. (We haven't included the David Niven Casino Royale out of personal preference). So far its been great anticipating what film and which Bond we may be watching. And being able to re-evaluate each movie as it comes up. We are only a few movies in so far but its a great way to fill in the wait for No Time To Die.

    Anyway, I was fascinated to read of the existence of Never Say McClory Again and would love to see it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Any help appreciated.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,870Chief of Staff
    Hi there, and welcome. Alas, since this is an unauthorized version of the film we can't have links etc here.

    In a totally different direction, our site has a fully functional private message system which should be taken advantage of more than it is.
  • skaro66skaro66 Stoke-on-TrentPosts: 3MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the welcome. I fully understand your stance on unauthorised edits. Maybe I will try the private messaging system to see if it works, I'm sure Q has come up with a few exciting improvements.
  • DavidJonesDavidJones BermondseyPosts: 266MI6 Agent
    An 'M'-velope! Genius!
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,949MI6 Agent
    skaro66 wrote:
    My partner and I are having a 007 lottery every Saturday night. We put the names of all the EON movies plus NSNA into an envelope, the M-velope :)) and pick out one at random. (We haven't included the David Niven Casino Royale out of personal preference). So far its been great anticipating what film and which Bond we may be watching. And being able to re-evaluate each movie as it comes up. We are only a few movies in so far but its a great way to fill in the wait for No Time To Die.

    Anyway, I was fascinated to read of the existence of Never Say McClory Again and would love to see it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Any help appreciated.

    I tried myself a while ago but couldn’t find anything. Let me know if you get any leads! :)
  • Glidrose007Glidrose007 Posts: 70MI6 Agent
    I'm desperate to see this version too. There are no links to it online anywhere. Does it really even exist?
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