James Bond in the MeToo era
Monsieur Sixte
Posts: 39MI6 Agent
Do you think that future Bond films will have to change the way Bond interacts with women due to the new dating rules (always evolving) brought about by the MeToo movement. One set of current rules can be found here:
https://fupping.com/connellbarrett/2018/11/30/5-new-dating-rules-for-men-in-the-metoo-era/
One rule is that you should always ensure that you get clear verbal consent from the woman before taking her to bed. I've even heard some MeToo advocates say you should ask for verbal consent before you hold a woman's hand or kiss her. The latter (kissing her) is dealt with in the following extract from an "agony aunt" in The Guardian newspaper called Jean Hannah Edelstein:
Question to Jean:
Hi Jean,
Been a nice date. Like to do it again.
Does one kiss, or not kiss, to make a second time possible?
(Good luck answering THAT one. Lol.)
E.
Her answer:
Hi E,
The best way of guaranteeing a second date comes down not to whether or not you kiss someone, but whether or not you tell them that you’ve had a nice time and ask them to go on another date with you. But if you’re hesitating over whether or not you should kiss someone at the end of a date, just say: “May I kiss you?”
Some months ago I had a conversation with a young man who believed this to be a passion-killer. He had heard rumors that women don’t like to be asked for permission to be kissed because it demonstrates some kind of weakness on the part of the person who asks. This is not true.
If you ask someone permission for a kiss and they want to kiss you, they’re not going to reject you because you asked first, even if they didn’t think it was necessary for you to ask.
Sure, there’s also a chance that they’ll say no, and that might be embarrassing. But if you kiss a person who doesn’t want to be kissed, that’s sexual assault. Not sexually assaulting the people we date should be collectively understood as more important than saving ourselves potential embarrassment. People who don’t understand this should stay home on their own.
JHE
Taken from: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/may/02/dating-after-metoo-should-i-ask-my-date-if-i-can-kiss-her
It is hard for me to envisage Bond (especially Connery’s Bond) doing this sort of thing. It would cramp his style and make him look too timid and desperate.
Any thoughts on this?
https://fupping.com/connellbarrett/2018/11/30/5-new-dating-rules-for-men-in-the-metoo-era/
One rule is that you should always ensure that you get clear verbal consent from the woman before taking her to bed. I've even heard some MeToo advocates say you should ask for verbal consent before you hold a woman's hand or kiss her. The latter (kissing her) is dealt with in the following extract from an "agony aunt" in The Guardian newspaper called Jean Hannah Edelstein:
Question to Jean:
Hi Jean,
Been a nice date. Like to do it again.
Does one kiss, or not kiss, to make a second time possible?
(Good luck answering THAT one. Lol.)
E.
Her answer:
Hi E,
The best way of guaranteeing a second date comes down not to whether or not you kiss someone, but whether or not you tell them that you’ve had a nice time and ask them to go on another date with you. But if you’re hesitating over whether or not you should kiss someone at the end of a date, just say: “May I kiss you?”
Some months ago I had a conversation with a young man who believed this to be a passion-killer. He had heard rumors that women don’t like to be asked for permission to be kissed because it demonstrates some kind of weakness on the part of the person who asks. This is not true.
If you ask someone permission for a kiss and they want to kiss you, they’re not going to reject you because you asked first, even if they didn’t think it was necessary for you to ask.
Sure, there’s also a chance that they’ll say no, and that might be embarrassing. But if you kiss a person who doesn’t want to be kissed, that’s sexual assault. Not sexually assaulting the people we date should be collectively understood as more important than saving ourselves potential embarrassment. People who don’t understand this should stay home on their own.
JHE
Taken from: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/may/02/dating-after-metoo-should-i-ask-my-date-if-i-can-kiss-her
It is hard for me to envisage Bond (especially Connery’s Bond) doing this sort of thing. It would cramp his style and make him look too timid and desperate.
Any thoughts on this?
Comments
Anyhow, glad I'm in a serious relationship and will be engaged sooner rather than later. I don't want to deal or think about this bs anymore.
Sexual assault is a serious issue but when you do things like this you demean the issue entirely and that is a huge disservice to girls/women who have or will have to deal with such issues.
The second James Bond has to ask for a kiss, he's not James Bond anymore.
It's like a Mad comic strip I recall fondly from the late 1980s... when you're young you're a young blade! Then it cuts to another pic of an old guy doing the same. making a saucy comment to a young woman... when you're old you're a dirty old man!
It had similar set-ups too... when you're young you're an underachiever, when you're older you're a specialist!
In the last film SP it's the blonde on the train who makes a move, not Craig.
Not so much with the brunette in Rome (this isn't very PC is it but can't remember the actresses' names).
Roger Moore 1927-2017
I don't think this can even work today. This method didn't stop people from finding the Bond/Bibi dynamic creepy in For Your Eyes Only. People here often blame Bond for going after a young girl in that situation, when Bond only rejects her.
Quite. #+1
@PussyGalore tweeted: #MeToo
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