AJB live commentary on Die Another Day

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  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Ugh, powering up a falling helicopter...nope, they’re very dead!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    The Moneypenny VR sequence- you either love or hate it!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:

    And just because I’m a man who enjoys the arts, what was the name of this play and is there a recording?


    Sorry, cn‘t tell you.
    But Barbel was there with an annual ticket :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Music “Going Down Together” on the OST. Very YOLT influenced. Covered by Nic Raine & Co.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    JTM wrote:

    And just because I’m a man who enjoys the arts, what was the name of this play and is there a recording?


    Sorry, cn‘t tell you.
    But Barbel was there with an annual ticket :D

    And binoculars
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    A VR love scene soon to be followed by a love scene in a Buddhist temple

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  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    Samantha Bond gets to do something interesting for what turned out to be her last appearance in the franchise... Cleese and Brosnan, too, though they wouldn't have known it.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Music inspired by YOLT
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    A disappointing last scene (and last half but that’s already established).
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    Arnold now evokes Barry strongly. Tamahori actually wanted 'Mountains and Sunsets' from the YOLT soundtrack but Arnold refused and offered him something else very much in that mode.

    Now onto Madonna's foot-tapping Dirty Vegas mix of her song.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Music inspired by YOLT

    Like I said above, Higgy! 8-)
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Well another one bites the dust! A fun rewatch—I didn’t dislike it as much as much as I remembered.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    So, I thought back to our discussion with TLD

    Brosnan certainly had it!
    He played incredibly well when he was conflicted, desperate but always confident.

    Comparing him next to Dalton in similar scenes is like comparing a boy to a man

    Brosnan was not too old for another one - too bad that he could not do a fifth!

    His acting in DAD is top notch!
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Shady Tree wrote:
    Now onto Madonna's foot-tapping Dirty Vegas mix of her song.

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  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    In his dvd commentary over the end titles Brosnan speaks warmly about being Bond... but that was shortly after post-production and before he'd any idea that this one was going to turn out to be his last.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    Well another one bites the dust! A fun rewatch—I didn’t dislike it as much as much as I remembered.

    I agree. I‘ve really enjoyed it in many parts!
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Shady Tree wrote:
    Now onto Madonna's foot-tapping Dirty Vegas mix of her song.

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    Haha... I need to lie down!
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    I have to agree with JTM and Higgijns.

    This was a fun watch, and the film (while still having obvious weaknesses) wasn't as bad as (a) is often made out and (b) I remember it. Brosnan is just fine, Berry sucks, Stephens better than I remembered.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    So, I thought back to our discussion with TLD

    Brosnan certainly had it!
    He played incredibly well when he was conflicted, desperate but always confident.

    Comparing him next to Dalton in similar scenes is like comparing a boy to a man

    Brosnan was not too old for another one - too bad that he could not do a fifth!

    His acting in DAD is top notch!

    Yes, Brosnan didn’t seem as old in this one as I remembered. Certainly could’ve done one more if it was done quick enough.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    But Rosamund Pike was gorgeous!
    Since my first viewing, I had a massive crush on her! Domino material!
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    I have to agree with JTM and Higgijns.

    This was a fun watch, and the film (while still having obvious weaknesses) wasn't as bad as (a) is often made out and (b) I remember it. Brosnan is just fine, Berry sucks, Stephens better than I remembered.

    Agreed on all counts.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Thank you guys, for a fun evening. If I made lists, which I don't, DAD would have moved up. It's still the weakest Brosnan entry, though. Arnold's score is his worst, and and the overall sense is of missed opportunities.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    What were the thoughts on this when it came out back in ‘02? I know the CGI is something that hasn’t held up over the years but back on release, was it an issue?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    I think the movie had potential to be good, but too many bad ideas, bad CGI and bad editing ideas was its undoing. Especially in the last half. One of the worst entries.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    It wasn't so much of an issue. It was fairly well received.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Probably the best comparison is with AVTAK, where an ageing Moore is pitted against much younger villains & leading ladies. Brosnan (just) hadn't entered that territory yet but it's still there. He does more than hold his own acting-wise and the flaws (CGI, FX, plot) aren't his doing- just like Moore in AVTAK.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    edited April 2020
    It was an enormous commercial success, but there were concerns at the time that CGI was inimical to the Bond ethos of doing it for real. One misjudged sequence, in particular - the digitised surfing - became the take-away focus of complaint and perhaps eclipsed, in a bad way, an awful lot of genuine and genuinely good stunt work elsewhere in the movie.

    The Broccolis had wanted Apted again, but when MGM vetoed him and they got Tamahori instead, they backed many of his key decisions... including on CGI, perhaps against their better judgement.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    If they kept much of the structure but removed the worst, such as Madonna, the invisible car, the bad CGI, Robocop, the surfing in Iceland, self induced cardiac arrest, Jinx' lines and some more …… and replaced it with someting good DAD could have been a solid entry.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Shady Tree wrote:
    It was an enormous commercial success, but there were concerns at the time that CGI was inimical to the Bond ethos of doing it for real. One misjudged sequence, in particular - the digitised surfing - became the take-away focus of complaint and perhaps eclipsed, in a bad way, an awful lot of genuine and genuinely good stunt work elsewhere in the movie.

    The Broccolis had wanted Apted again, but when MGM vetoed him and they got Tamahori instead, they backed many of his key decisions... including on CGI, perhaps against their better judgement.

    I wonder what we would have got with Apted.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Number24 wrote:
    If they kept much of the structure but removed the worst, such as Madonna, the invisible car, the bad CGI, Robocop, the surfing in Iceland, self induced cardiac arrest, Jinx' lines and some more …… and replaced it with someting good DAD could have been a solid entry.

    That's the sad thing. It wouldn't have taken much.
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