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Number24 wrote:

Yes, but I meant the M1911 was often used by the SOE on commando-style missions. I wasn't clear on that in my post.

No, I got you. You are spot on. The 1911 was well loved by commando units and overt SOE agents.  Even Churchill had one and claimed it was his favourite pistol.

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I get the impression the SOE is seen by many as an espionage unit and not a special operations unit. I suspect the reason is that the SOE often did work in espionage roles in some countries such as France, where a typical role for the SOE was setting up a radio station. A very dangerous and important job, and often carried out by women. Norway was at the time a very rural country were walking or skiing around the countryside to blow something up or training gurerillas was a more typical role for the SOE. They even took part in a couple of commando raids early in the war. Is this your impression too?

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Yeah, you’re right. I think many of the commando style raids that the SOE were involved in haven’t been attributed to them in the past and usually bunched in with the generic “commando” term rather than specifically SOE.  They were certainly prolific in that role during the first half of the war.   

The woods at the back of our house were used by the SOE as training grounds for commando raids. They took over the old Manor House there.  Even now I’m still finding ordnance and rounds fired over the vast area. They must have expended hundreds of thousands of 9mm rounds over there.

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It must be interesting having a piece of SOE history in your neighbourhood. I know SOE often used manor houses as Special Training Schools. By the way: Two famous SOE agents, Max Manus and Gregers Gram, were hiking in Scotland a short time after they were instructed in lock-picking. They came upon a large manor house where no-one was alone. They let themselves in and enjoyed the food, wine cellar and luxurious living conditions for a few days. Later they read in the newspaper that the royal hunting "cabin" had been broken into  ajb007/lol

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That is superb. Fair play to them  ajb007/lol

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I'm reading "Doctor No" and Fleming mentions one of the henchmen is carrying Remington .3000 carabine. What gun is that?

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Number24 wrote:

I'm reading "Doctor No" and Fleming mentions one of the henchmen is carrying Remington .3000 carabine. What gun is that?

Here: https://flemingsbond.com/u-s-army-remin … rbine-300/

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Oh, simply a M! carabine. Thanks.

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On a slightly different note, .......

Anyone watched The Tiger King on Netflix ? Not to go in to too many details, but One
Member of his Zoo crew accidentally, when fooling around with his gun Shot Himself.
Before this happened on screen, I predicted it to my Daughter, as I explained how
some automatics work
( I know nothing about guns, only from what I've seen in movies and the bits and pieces
I've picked up on AJB, from our far more knowledgeable Members )
The guy on screen removed the clip of bullets from the gun and proceeded to tease another
member of staff, and the inevitable happened.
  I expressed my opinion to my daughter that how someone who worked with Guns everyday
wouldn't know some basic safety techniques.
  Although If anyone has seen the show they fool around with guns all the time, even pointing
loaded revolvers at the camera crew and eachother.

“I remember the last thing my Nan said to me before she died.
‘What are you doing here with that hammer?’”..... Lee Mack.

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Right TP. First look at this picture for half an hour and memorise it. Cos there’s anything more annoying than a magazine being called a clip.  And yeah, I know, all the movies and books do it,  but that just means it suspends disbelief and makes anyone that’s handled these things for real rant about it to themselves for an hour. 


https://i.postimg.cc/yDYS01k8/168-AA93-B-BF76-4-E01-A3-A3-FA0-C917-BEE51.jpg



And here’s another. Just in case you’ve forgotten already.

https://i.postimg.cc/4KY7FWvC/7-EB26627-DB8-C-43-FA-A0-FE-8-F1117-C689-DA.jpg


But apart from that, you’re right.  Removing a fully loaded pistols MAGAZINE doesn’t mean it’s safe.  Although some manufacturers did add magazine safety’s to their weapons so that they couldn’t fire without a mag inserted.  The Browning Hi Power being one. Anyway, people realised this was dumb, and it isn’t widely used anymore.

Back to the point.  If the pistol had a round in the breech, then it was still live as removing the MAGAZINE has no affect on that, and it can still shoot as usual. 

Now go back and look at those pictures, I won’t hear of such things again  ajb007/shifty  ajb007/shifty

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ajb007/lol  I did say I knew Nothing about guns   In a shootout, I'd be with the
women folk, ripping off a strip of my undergarments for bandages.  ajb007/wink
Next you'll be telling me holding it sideways and claiming to put a cap
in someone's Ass, isn't the done thing either !

“I remember the last thing my Nan said to me before she died.
‘What are you doing here with that hammer?’”..... Lee Mack.

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The English term is “put a cap in your bottom”.  They just stole it from us and made it sound more crude.

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There seems to be a reality TV genere where people handles dangerous items like idiots even though they should be experts or at least really competent. What's the show about lumberjacks? I saw an episode where a man was clearing a road of trees after a storm. A tree was toppled accross a road and the guy was standing directly under the tree, holding the chainsaw with one arm straight up while cutting it! I've ben in that sort of situation and that's the completely wrong way to do it. I'm surpriced they don't kill themselves in every program. A friend of mine works in a firm that produces cranes for the oil indiustry. he's watched a reality show about workers in the oil industry and he says the same thing: The guys behave like idiots with no consept of safety and common sense.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

ajb007/lol  I did say I knew Nothing about guns   In a shootout, I'd be with the
women folk, ripping off a strip of my undergarments for bandages.  ajb007/wink
Next you'll be telling me holding it sideways and claiming to put a cap
in someone's Ass, isn't the done thing either !

This is self evident, because the "Real Gun People" always go "commando"!!
If for no other reason, that to be able to say that they can't rip their........ "undergarments...."? What? You wear a petticoat???

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Please 0073, My undergarments are my own private business
and not fitting for public discussion ........ I'm no slag !!   ajb007/biggrin  ajb007/tongue

“I remember the last thing my Nan said to me before she died.
‘What are you doing here with that hammer?’”..... Lee Mack.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Please 0073, My undergarments are my own private business
and not fitting for public discussion ........ I'm no slag !!   ajb007/biggrin  ajb007/tongue

"Even accountants have imagination" -Vesper Lynd

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Could the Semmerling LM4 have been a viable gun for James Bond in the 1980's, at least the litterary Bond?

https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/2223093504/8098477/b92fe1d7af6ee3a6ca60e0e3b9aa46db.jpg

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https://youtu.be/fnE50OU9R78
Crazy new gun and caliber !

https://youtu.be/7vJxq8bsuK0
The worst Internet gun fails   ajb007/amazed

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“I remember the last thing my Nan said to me before she died.
‘What are you doing here with that hammer?’”..... Lee Mack.

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https://youtu.be/MmOASuJKMso
The gun you never knew you needed.
I didn't know there were foldable hand
Guns.

“I remember the last thing my Nan said to me before she died.
‘What are you doing here with that hammer?’”..... Lee Mack.

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Number24 wrote:

Could the Semmerling LM4 have been a viable gun for James Bond in the 1980's, at least the litterary Bond?

https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/2223093504/8098477/b92fe1d7af6ee3a6ca60e0e3b9aa46db.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5j97v2Yqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxdPbG2PXu4

I would have to say; for literary Bond: maybe. For a moment, imagine the Silver Screen Bond firing Semmerling: DC in his too-tight-for-comfort suit jacket trying to work the action....  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Number24 wrote:

Could the Semmerling LM4 have been a viable gun for James Bond in the 1980's, at least the litterary Bond?

https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/2223093504/8098477/b92fe1d7af6ee3a6ca60e0e3b9aa46db.jpg

It's a neat gun but not really practical for the kind of shooting he's doing. Bond carries a small handgun for self-defense, and being able to accurately shoot your target as many times as possible with a handgun in the vitals until they drop is the best way to use it. The Semmerling was the smallest .45 of the period, but modern firearm doctrine holds that the caliber of a handgun is nowhere near as important as shot placement and the .45 statistically is no better than even .380 ACP in actual shootings. Handguns overall suck for gunfights!

Gardner's choice of an FN M1903 was bizarre, even if the gun wasn't bad, but the VP-70 was arguably worse because of its awful trigger pull making accurate fire an impossibility. The ASP he eventually stuck with really was the best concealed carry pistol he could get at the time if he was sparing no expense, taking into account concealability, and the P7 he used for one book is a very fine larger combat pistol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4trmOFxuJw0