Crockett & Jones for NTTD

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  • TheExit148TheExit148 Posts: 562MI6 Agent
    edited September 2020
    Doesn't allude to outfits.

    I assume these are the Coniston black or dark brown (more likely given tonal shift) rough out...but the images don't entirely sit with the C&J website images.

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    I think these are actually the Moltons based on the uppers design and toe shape; has the look of chukkas and the more square toe of the Molton. You can also see no laces across the boot uppers like the Coniston boot.
  • 007JBDCMWR007JBDCMWR Posts: 2,516MI6 Agent
    Noi wrote:
    Would guess that these are the same Boots here and they appear to be black

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    Yes defo black
    Great, a change to brown!!!
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  • Mattia De VartiMattia De Varti ItalyPosts: 488MI6 Agent
    And if they were the Molton in rough out suede he wears in Norway and the Coniston with the RGT jacket?

    Cause if you look at this model in rough out the don't have the cap toe. And the models are both in brown as stated by Omega magazine

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  • Mattia De VartiMattia De Varti ItalyPosts: 488MI6 Agent
    TheExit148 wrote:
    Doesn't allude to outfits.

    I assume these are the Coniston black or dark brown (more likely given tonal shift) rough out...but the images don't entirely sit with the C&J website images.

    CJ-close-up.jpg
    I think these are actually the Moltons based on the uppers design and toe shape; has the look of chukkas and the more square toe of the Molton. You can also see no laces across the boot uppers like the Coniston boot.

    It's exactly what I was trying to show. The eyelets sit in a different way.
  • Mattia De VartiMattia De Varti ItalyPosts: 488MI6 Agent
    I think the roughout model is specifically made for the movie. The Molton seem discontinued on C&J site and are a personal favourite of Craig who wore the pretty same model in various occasions
  • Royale-les-EauxRoyale-les-Eaux LondonPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    And if they were the Molton in rough out suede he wears in Norway and the Coniston with the RGT jacket?

    Cause if you look at this model in rough out the don't have the cap toe. And the models are both in brown as stated by Omega magazine

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    Think that’s on the money. Although personally I’d probably prefer to wear the Coniston in the mud!
  • Mattia De VartiMattia De Varti ItalyPosts: 488MI6 Agent
    I would too. But you know James Bond very often makes choices us mere mortals would never do :)) :D

    He has no problem in ruining them
  • Royale-les-EauxRoyale-les-Eaux LondonPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    I would too. But you know James Bond very often makes choices us mere mortals would never do :)) :D

    He has no problem in ruining them

    Especially if they were issued by Q! :))
  • Mattia De VartiMattia De Varti ItalyPosts: 488MI6 Agent
    Point taken. Along with all the other equipments issued by Q branch :)
  • Mattia De VartiMattia De Varti ItalyPosts: 488MI6 Agent
    Now we've cleared it the Coniston must go with the RGT supply jacket in the garage scene
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    I'm having trouble understanding why they'd use two similar boots like this. If one were black and the other were brown, okay. If one was rough out suede and the other was calfskin, okay. But the difference seems to be that one is close to a chukka style and the other is close to a dress boot style? From a costuming point of view, it seems odd to me, even if it's what has happened.
  • NoiNoi Posts: 705MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    I'm having trouble understanding why they'd use two similar boots like this. If one were black and the other were brown, okay. If one was rough out suede and the other was calfskin, okay. But the difference seems to be that one is close to a chukka style and the other is close to a dress boot style? From a costuming point of view, it seems odd to me, even if it's what has happened.

    beside of that I have to ask again; they look black here?
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Remember CJ provided a few other models for Spectre that were not seen.
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  • Royale-les-EauxRoyale-les-Eaux LondonPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    I'm having trouble understanding why they'd use two similar boots like this. If one were black and the other were brown, okay. If one was rough out suede and the other was calfskin, okay. But the difference seems to be that one is close to a chukka style and the other is close to a dress boot style? From a costuming point of view, it seems odd to me, even if it's what has happened.

    C&J central office 2019: "...what if we put a different £500 dark brown shoe in every scene?!"... :))
  • sruzgarsruzgar Welcome to ScotlandPosts: 1,468MI6 Agent
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    These are defo molton, my C&J contact made no mention of coniston and they were not at the event they held. RGT is not C&J shoes
  • XE-SXE-S Posts: 34MI6 Agent
    Agree they are Molton. I went to C&J in London last Thursday and spoke to the sales assistant about Bond and he made no mention Conistons being used in the movie. We also discussed other movies that C&J provided boots for such as Kingsman which did use Coniston boots among others
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    The Molton is a nice boot, but is anyone looking at this overall outfit and saying, "That looks great! I am going to totally rock this out in the world." (Contrast it with the Skyfall Scotland outfit.) A $700 pair of boots can't save a loose henley and an undistinguished pair of charcoal-black cords. I like the NTTD clothes more than most but won't be wearing this combination.
  • frommeyerfrommeyer ChicagoPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    I'm with you, Cheverian. I really like this movie's wardrobe on the whole. But $700 for the boots, $400 for the cords, $160 for the Henley (he said with four in his closet), and then another $1200 for the duster? Nah, I'm good. It's a weird look for $2500.

    But I don't have a pair of any brown suede Bond boots and I want a pair. Lot of options at this point: Ryder 3s, Drake's, Sanders, Molton, Kentons. The Molton's are probably most interesting to someone like me who doesn't have something like it in his closet.
  • sunny01sunny01 Posts: 524MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    The Molton is a nice boot, but is anyone looking at this overall outfit and saying, "That looks great! I am going to totally rock this out in the world." (Contrast it with the Skyfall Scotland outfit.) A $700 pair of boots can't save a loose henley and an undistinguished pair of charcoal-black cords. I like the NTTD clothes more than most but won't be wearing this combination.

    Sorry but have to say I disagree with you on this one. I think this outfit is far more practical and wearable in real life than many of the other outfits in the movie. Most of the outfits to my eye have been a big disappointment. The N Peal woolly jumper looks a bit obvious and try hard.
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    sunny01 wrote:
    Cheverian wrote:
    The Molton is a nice boot, but is anyone looking at this overall outfit and saying, "That looks great! I am going to totally rock this out in the world." (Contrast it with the Skyfall Scotland outfit.) A $700 pair of boots can't save a loose henley and an undistinguished pair of charcoal-black cords. I like the NTTD clothes more than most but won't be wearing this combination.

    Sorry but have to say I disagree with you on this one. I think this outfit is far more practical and wearable in real life than many of the other outfits in the movie. Most of the outfits to my eye have been a big disappointment. The N Peal woolly jumper looks a bit obvious and try hard.

    Oh, I don't disagree with you! It's totally wearable. It looks like what I'd throw on to cut brush. You could piece the look together for less than $50. What I am saying is that it's undistinguished. Show up for a date wearing this and see how delighted your woman is.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    sunny01 wrote:
    Cheverian wrote:
    The Molton is a nice boot, but is anyone looking at this overall outfit and saying, "That looks great! I am going to totally rock this out in the world." (Contrast it with the Skyfall Scotland outfit.) A $700 pair of boots can't save a loose henley and an undistinguished pair of charcoal-black cords. I like the NTTD clothes more than most but won't be wearing this combination.

    Sorry but have to say I disagree with you on this one. I think this outfit is far more practical and wearable in real life than many of the other outfits in the movie. Most of the outfits to my eye have been a big disappointment. The N Peal woolly jumper looks a bit obvious and try hard.

    Oh, I don't disagree with you! It's totally wearable. It looks like what I'd throw on to cut brush. You could piece the look together for less than $50. What I am saying is that it's undistinguished. Show up for a date wearing this and see how delighted your woman is.

    Jack Ryan season 1—R&B henley, black pants and brown boots...his date certainly didn't seem to mind :D

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  • sunny01sunny01 Posts: 524MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    Cheverian wrote:
    sunny01 wrote:

    Sorry but have to say I disagree with you on this one. I think this outfit is far more practical and wearable in real life than many of the other outfits in the movie. Most of the outfits to my eye have been a big disappointment. The N Peal woolly jumper looks a bit obvious and try hard.

    Oh, I don't disagree with you! It's totally wearable. It looks like what I'd throw on to cut brush. You could piece the look together for less than $50. What I am saying is that it's undistinguished. Show up for a date wearing this and see how delighted your woman is.

    Jack Ryan season 1—R&B henley, black pants and brown boots...his date certainly didn't seem to mind :D

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    I think its an understated casual look and yes you can put together something similar for $50 but like anything you can spot quality clothing vs cheaper imitations. This outfit actually cost in total $1,000 or more (mostly the shoes but still the trousers and henley are expensive items as well!!)
  • Royale-les-EauxRoyale-les-Eaux LondonPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    you're all forgetting the most important bit of these 'simple' outfits...the £30-40k per annum to provide a Bond or Ryan quality frame to hang the clothes on! :))
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    Think how much happier Ryan's date would have been if he'd showed up like this!

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    And look, it's a good thing we all have different tastes. I also agree that quality clothing reveals itself. (There's also the matter of not knowing the plot turns of NTTD and why Bond is dressed this way. I'm guess that dressing up in a TF cardigan wouldn't be right for this scene.)

    I just don't find the look worth emulating as an ensemble for anything much beyond tromping through the woods, which I wouldn't do in C&J boots. I want Bond clothes to inspire me to try to look better. Even the Enjoying Death outfit got me to try a patterned shirt which people seem to love on me, and the Menlo is my most worn leather jacket.

    That said, I should note that I own not one but two of the R&B henleys and have my name in with Massimo Alba for the cord reissue. :))
  • XE-SXE-S Posts: 34MI6 Agent
    That's a good outfit. Would've been even better if the blobby Ryder's were replaced with Chilterns or suede Moltons
  • sunny01sunny01 Posts: 524MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    Think how much happier Ryan's date would have been if he'd showed up like this!

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    And look, it's a good thing we all have different tastes. I also agree that quality clothing reveals itself. (There's also the matter of not knowing the plot turns of NTTD and why Bond is dressed this way. I'm guess that dressing up in a TF cardigan wouldn't be right for this scene.)

    I just don't find the look worth emulating as an ensemble for anything much beyond tromping through the woods, which I wouldn't do in C&J boots. I want Bond clothes to inspire me to try to look better. Even the Enjoying Death outfit got me to try a patterned shirt which people seem to love on me, and the Menlo is my most worn leather jacket.

    That said, I should note that I own not one but two of the R&B henleys and have my name in with Massimo Alba for the cord reissue. :))

    Yep I love this outfit with the shawl collar cardigan. In fact the NTTD outfit would look better with the cardigan on top of the Henley. That is an outfit I often wear having seen DC wear a white Henley under the grey Prada shawl cardigan and i think it’s a very cool look.
  • kaddkadd Posts: 917MI6 Agent
    Thankfully they haven’t gone down this path. I definitely don’t need another Bond shawl cardigan! :))
  • NoiNoi Posts: 705MI6 Agent
    edited September 2020
    Cheverian wrote:
    Think how much happier Ryan's date would have been if he'd showed up like this!

    qosit-main1.jpg

    And look, it's a good thing we all have different tastes. I also agree that quality clothing reveals itself. (There's also the matter of not knowing the plot turns of NTTD and why Bond is dressed this way. I'm guess that dressing up in a TF cardigan wouldn't be right for this scene.)

    I just don't find the look worth emulating as an ensemble for anything much beyond tromping through the woods, which I wouldn't do in C&J boots. I want Bond clothes to inspire me to try to look better. Even the Enjoying Death outfit got me to try a patterned shirt which people seem to love on me, and the Menlo is my most worn leather jacket.

    That said, I should note that I own not one but two of the R&B henleys and have my name in with Massimo Alba for the cord reissue. :))

    thats not fair to compare! the Talamone-outfit is probably the best causal outfit in the DC era, it has everthing, you are never overdressed or underdressed, you can wear it in the woods, you can wear it to a date, it is causal but has the bond elegance, its a masterpiece of costume design! : D

    the Duster outfit is more limited, but it wasn't design for a date and from what I have seen from the trailer it works really well beside of that I really like the fact that it doesn't look like $2500, I'm not a fan of clothing which screams: look how expensive I am, among other things subtle clothing can be key to elegance, the devil is in the details


    back to the C&J; if its true that there are really a pair of brown Moltons and Conistons I'll go for just one of them and combine them with both outfits, the price of two C&Js just hurts too much... I like the Conistons more I'm a huge fan of that style and I think they will work with both of them, Duster and RGT if it comes that way...wonder if there will be a causual outfit we haven't seen so far
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    Noi wrote:
    back to the C&J; if its true that there are really a pair of brown Moltons and Conistons I'll go for just one of them and combine them with both outfits, the price of two C&Js just hurts too much... I like the Conistons more I'm a huge fan of that style and I think they will work with both of them, Duster and RGT if it comes that way...wonder if there will be a causual outfit we haven't seen so far

    I think I feel the same way about buying another pair of brown suede chukkas (rough out or not) as some do about buying another cardigan. :)
  • Danny WildeDanny Wilde Posts: 20MI6 Agent
    could you give me some advise on sizing please I take a size UK8 in the Loake Trapper would I be the same size in the C&J Moltons and the Highburys I would like to buy both limited editions when released thanks for your help
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