76 Reply by James Suzuki

  • James Suzuki
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • From: New Zealand
  • Registered: 4th Apr 2010
  • Posts: 2,404

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

Ive been pondering on this , and I do think Nomi will die in the third act but it will be a big, sacrificial one like Mayday, where she leaves the film with more than her dignity in tact. And this will be after they stop arguing and become platonic pals. The focus is on Bond, but Nomi is treated well. Probably best case scenario IMHO.

“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming

77 Reply by Sir Miles

  • Sir Miles
  • Chief of Staff
  • Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • From: The Wrong Side Of The Wardrobe
  • Registered: 14th Apr 2002
  • Posts: 33,186

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

James Suzuki wrote:

Ive been pondering on this , and I do think Nomi will die in the third act but it will be a big, sacrificial one like Mayday, where she leaves the film with more than her dignity in tact.

According to bits and pieces ‘leaked’ - this is NOT the case...

YNWA 96

The Unbearables

78 Reply by Number24

  • Number24
  • MI6 Agent
  • Online
  • From: Norway
  • Registered: 8th Sep 2005
  • Posts: 17,307

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

Sir Miles wrote:
James Suzuki wrote:

Ive been pondering on this , and I do think Nomi will die in the third act but it will be a big, sacrificial one like Mayday, where she leaves the film with more than her dignity in tact.

According to bits and pieces ‘leaked’ - this is NOT the case...

That's a shame, because that was what I was hoping for.

79 Reply by ichaice

  • ichaice
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • From: London
  • Registered: 25th Jul 2015
  • Posts: 372

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

Let’s just hope most of the film is about Bond.....you know the star of this show  ajb007/smile

Yes. Considerably!

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lukey_sparrow/

80 Reply by HowardB

  • HowardB
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • From: USA
  • Registered: 18th Jan 2006
  • Posts: 2,648

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

ichaice wrote:

Let’s just hope most of the film is about Bond.....you know the star of this show  ajb007/smile

It makes no sense or logic that EON/MGM who wanted Craig back so badly that they waited him out until he made up his mind and ponied up huge $$$$ to pay him, would make a Craig Bond film where Craig/Bond plays second fiddle. Of course that does not mean that other characters won't have their moments and be pivotal elements. Also, remember the catch phrases that are used in movie trailers can be like internet click bait.

81 Reply by AugustWalker

  • AugustWalker
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Registered: 10th Sep 2018
  • Posts: 731

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

HowardB wrote:
ichaice wrote:

Let’s just hope most of the film is about Bond.....you know the star of this show  ajb007/smile

It makes no sense or logic that EON/MGM who wanted Craig back so badly that they waited him out until he made up his mind and ponied up huge $$$$ to pay him, would make a Craig Bond film where Craig/Bond plays second fiddle. Of course that does not mean that other characters won't have their moments and be pivotal elements. Also, remember the catch phrases that are used in movie trailers can be like internet click bait.

Also we have to bear in mind that these catchphrases from the trailers are one tiny tidbit in a 2.5h long movie full of dialogue.

The name is Walker by the way.

IG: @thebondarchives
Check it out, you won’t be disappointed ajb007/smile

82 Reply by Thunderpussy

  • Thunderpussy
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • From: Behind you !
  • Registered: 12th Feb 2009
  • Posts: 63,636

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

Perhaps due to some of those exciting stunts, Bond has not only to change his
Underpants but...... everything, it was that scary !!   ajb007/wink

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

83 Reply by Jarvio

  • Jarvio
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • From: England
  • Registered: 6th May 2003
  • Posts: 5,341

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

lol Nomi is not dying. There would be a huge uproar if she did

1 - Lald, 2 - Ltk, 3 - Avtak, 4 - Op, 5 - Dn, 6 - Fyeo, 7 - Tswlm, 8 - Daf, 9 - Sf, 10 - Ohmss, 11 - Yolt, 12 - Ge, 13 - Tld, 14 - Mr, 15 - Gf, 16 - Tb, 17 - Tmwtgg, 18 - Sp, 19 - Tnd, 20 - Dad, 21 - Twine, 22 - Frwl, 23 - Cr, 24 - Qos

1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby

84 Reply by James Suzuki

  • James Suzuki
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • From: New Zealand
  • Registered: 4th Apr 2010
  • Posts: 2,404

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

Jarvio wrote:

lol Nomi is not dying. There would be a huge uproar if she did

And a huge amount on board with it as well.  ajb007/martini

“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming

85 Reply by The Red Kind

  • The Red Kind
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • From: England
  • Registered: 16th Jan 2015
  • Posts: 1,537

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

HowardB wrote:
ichaice wrote:

Let’s just hope most of the film is about Bond.....you know the star of this show  ajb007/smile

It makes no sense or logic that EON/MGM who wanted Craig back so badly that they waited him out until he made up his mind and ponied up huge $$$$ to pay him, would make a Craig Bond film where Craig/Bond plays second fiddle. Of course that does not mean that other characters won't have their moments and be pivotal elements. Also, remember the catch phrases that are used in movie trailers can be like internet click bait.

On the contrary, I think DC and the producers want to show they're at the forefront of equality and having a strong female supporting cast (almost joint lead in Nomi). I don't think he will play second fiddle but I think this film will be even more a double act than we've seen previously. Bond will have more screen time but Nomi will be as crucial to 'saving the world' and the heroine as much as Bond is the hero.

"Any of the opposition around..?"

86 Reply by HowardB

  • HowardB
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • From: USA
  • Registered: 18th Jan 2006
  • Posts: 2,648

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

The Red Kind wrote:
HowardB wrote:
ichaice wrote:

Let’s just hope most of the film is about Bond.....you know the star of this show  ajb007/smile

It makes no sense or logic that EON/MGM who wanted Craig back so badly that they waited him out until he made up his mind and ponied up huge $$$$ to pay him, would make a Craig Bond film where Craig/Bond plays second fiddle. Of course that does not mean that other characters won't have their moments and be pivotal elements. Also, remember the catch phrases that are used in movie trailers can be like internet click bait.

On the contrary, I think DC and the producers want to show they're at the forefront of equality and having a strong female supporting cast (almost joint lead in Nomi). I don't think he will play second fiddle but I think this film will be even more a double act than we've seen previously. Bond will have more screen time but Nomi will be as crucial to 'saving the world' and the heroine as much as Bond is the hero.

I think what you said is possible. My only concern would be that it is well written and not done in a trite, forced, and heavy handed manner. To avoid that one of the things they need to steer clear of is making much of the conflict between Bond and Nomi gender related as it just would not fit at all with Craig's Bond who just doesn't have those issues in the previous 3 films. Judging by what little we have seen in the trailers, it does not appear that Bond and Nomi's issues are gender based but more related to age and approach to the job. Actually it appears that Nomi is more threatened by the reappearence of an older retired "00", especially one with a well deserved reputation for being a bit out of control, having a bit too many personal demons and going off the reservation.....which IMO would be a nice twist.

87 Reply by JTBond

  • JTBond
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Registered: 17th Mar 2011
  • Posts: 35

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

A couple thoughts on the Bond death possibility... I think the producers have accomplished what they set out to do and that's to create conversation. Almost every preview somehow weaves in a line or two about Bond dying. It'd be too obvious in my opinion. I just can't see them previewing Blofeld saying "...it'll be the death of you." for almost a year and then Bond dies.

88 Reply by JTM

  • JTM
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Registered: 19th Feb 2016
  • Posts: 2,854

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

JTBond wrote:

A couple thoughts on the Bond death possibility... I think the producers have accomplished what they set out to do and that's to create conversation. Almost every preview somehow weaves in a line or two about Bond dying. It'd be too obvious in my opinion. I just can't see them previewing Blofeld saying "...it'll be the death of you." for almost a year and then Bond dies.

Ooooorrrr, knowing that we’d all naturally assume Bond won’t die because of the amount of dialogue they put in the trailers referencing Bond dying, they could actually have him die, fooling everyone that’s overthinking it   ajb007/shifty

89 Reply by SeanIsTheOnlyOne

  • SeanIsTheOnlyOne
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • Registered: 18th Apr 2020
  • Posts: 70

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

JTBond wrote:

A couple thoughts on the Bond death possibility... I think the producers have accomplished what they set out to do and that's to create conversation. Almost every preview somehow weaves in a line or two about Bond dying. It'd be too obvious in my opinion. I just can't see them previewing Blofeld saying "...it'll be the death of you." for almost a year and then Bond dies.

That's exactly what I said in a previous post. It would be very strange from the producers to tease the death of their heroe before the release of the movie, unless they want it NOT to be epic and surprising. We currently live in a social media era in which any single word or any single shot from a trailer could be related to any speculation topic, without forgetting the leaks from various sources. Bond dying would be the biggest plot twist ever in the entire franchise, after almost six decades of surviving movie after movie. Taking the chance of suggesting it will finally happen would spoil everything to me. It would be like having put the line "Is Darth Vader my father ?" into the trailer of Episode V.
Furthermore, what Lashana Lynch says about the relationship between Bond and Nomi and the way they eventually accomplish the mission makes me think Bond will not die, even she doesn't say it properly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV_PD9VHhUQ

Nevertheless, there were rumors about the fact Fukunaga shot three alternate endings, one of them including Bond's death...

If everything goes right, we'll soon know if our friend Danny Boyle was indeed the one who intended to kill Bond off or the opposite.

90 Reply by The Spy Who Never Dies

  • The Spy Who Never Dies
  • MI6 Agent
  • Offline
  • From: UK
  • Registered: 1st May 2020
  • Posts: 487

Re: 3 fears, 2 hopes

Bond doesn't have time to die  ajb007/biggrin