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I have taken note of the different masks and will investigate (I don't need a gas mask though!). The replies have been most informative.

With regard to 'fogging up' of spectacles, I am not sure if this trick will work, but we used to spit into the lenses of diving masks then rub it in to stop them from becoming misty. Perhaps a little bit of saliva rubbed into the inside of the lens might stop the problem? I'm not sure if it would affect vision though? It is fine under water but otherwise?

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Don't know if this will work on glasses but for cars .....
Rub the cut part of one half potato on the window. This will clean it and leave a layer that will prevent fog from forming on the window....... or


From Specsavers
Top tips to stop your glasses from fogging up
Our experts have shared their top tips for fog-free glasses below. We recommend that you try these tips before leaving the house to ensure your mask is secure and you don't have to fiddle with it or touch your face once you’re out in public.

1. Make sure your mask fits snugly
A tightly fitting mask is the first thing that you need to check for. Not only does this help to keep you protected against any airborne particles, but it also stops too much breath from escaping and fogging your lenses. For the best fit, your mask should be snug against your nose and cheeks, and there shouldn’t be any slack or gaps for the air to escape. If your mask is not tight enough when you first put it on, try tightening the straps for a secure fit or opting for a smaller size.

2. Secure the mask around your nose
Securing your mask around your nose is another way to limit the amount of breath that escapes upwards. Try moving your mask further up your nose (if this is comfortable for you) and resting your glasses on top of it to help seal the mask. If this does not work, or your mask cannot be pulled this high, try using a small piece of surgical tape to secure the mask to the bridge of your nose. This helps form a seal to prevent your breath from escaping upwards.

3. Think your mask is too big? Tighten it with the ear loops
If your mask doesn’t fit tightly, you can try adjusting it yourself. If you have enough slack in the ear loops, try twisting them into an ‘X’ shape and then putting them around your ears. With the self-tying face masks, you can adjust it yourself so that the mask fits closer to your face — just make sure you don’t tie them so tight that you get red marks behind your ears.

4. Stop your glasses from slipping down your nose
Glasses constantly slipping down your nose can be a pain, so why not try wrapping the string of the mask around the sides of your glasses rather than your ear. This might help to make your glasses and mask more secure — just be careful when taking off your glasses as the mask will be attached. It might be that your glasses are slipping down because your frames are not fitting you as well as they did, this can happen over time as we use them day in and day out - they may simply need adjusting. If so, just call your local Specsavers opticians and we’ll be able to adjust them for you, though at the moment this may be by appointment only.

5. Breathe downwards into the mask
Instead of fiddling with your mask and trying to adjust it, you might find that changing your breathing helps just as well. To prevent your glasses from steaming up, try to push the air downwards when you exhale. It might take a bit of getting used to, but once you’ve got the hang of it, it’s a pretty simple solution.

6. Clean your lenses
It might be that your lenses are prone to fogging if it’s been a while since they had a good clean. We suggest using a cloth and cleaning spray, or, it might be that your lenses are prone to fogging if it’s been a while since they had a good clean. We suggest using a glasses cloth and cleaning spray. If you want lenses that are easy clean lenses and stay cleaner for longer, try our UltraClear SuperClean lenses.

7. Adjust your glasses
It may seem a little counterintuitive, but pushing your glasses down on your nose slightly will create more space between your lenses and your eyes, allowing for more air to circulate and keeping your breath from fogging up your vision.

8. Switch to contact lenses
If none of the above tips are helpful, it might be worth switching to contact lenses for the time being. This eliminates any worry that your vision might be impaired by steamy lenses, which is especially important if you’re at work where it might be difficult to keep defogging your lenses. For guidance, check out our advice for wearing contact lenses safely.

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So, who‘s gonna believe this?

Trump now labels Dr. Fauci „being a disaster“ and „if I‘d listened to him, we‘d have now 500.000 deaths“

Well, Fauci was always the voice of being careful - in the ears of some overly cautious - so how could that claim have any substance?
For sure, Fauci‘s suggestions would have led to less fatalities, so it‘s just an idiotic claim - obvious, blatant and a lie!

Wouldn‘t it have been smarter saying „If I‘d listened to him, we‘d have 10 million more unemployed“ or „stock market would have lost 10% more“?

Why put such an obvious lie out and who‘s really believing this sh*t?

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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Trump can say the moon is a big cheese and his base would still belive him  ajb007/crap

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Well who doesn't love a cheesy base.  ajb007/wink

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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Joshua wrote:

I have taken note of the different masks and will investigate (I don't need a gas mask though!). The replies have been most informative.

With regard to 'fogging up' of spectacles, I am not sure if this trick will work, but we used to spit into the lenses of diving masks then rub it in to stop them from becoming misty. Perhaps a little bit of saliva rubbed into the inside of the lens might stop the problem? I'm not sure if it would affect vision though? It is fine under water but otherwise?

I don't "need" a gas mask either, but it's fun to stir up some "behind your back" conversations in the upper middle class neighborhood where I live currently.  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  Although my wife says, that at my age it's no longer just childish, it's down right weird!
I don't think that spitting into my glasses, and rubbing the lenses, in the local grocery store while checking the price tags on produce is going to go down too well with my fellow shoppers.  ajb007/crap

There are all these anti fogging agents that one can buy, also shaving foam 1) spread on the lenses and 2) polished off, works quite well. I have used that in the past on spots of car windows and camera lenses, when I needed to prevent morning mist from blocking up the picture.

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-Mr Arlington Beech

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Daily Star: Gary Lineker caught shopping without face mask - after slating those who don't wear them.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest … t-22871799

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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0073

It was just an idea! I actually meant spitting on the lenses while outside (away from people) but now that you have pointed it out I can see that doing it in the supermarket might cause a issue! I did not think it through!

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Daily Star: Gary Lineker caught shopping without face mask - after slating those who don't wear them.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest … t-22871799


He may have been eating crisps?!

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Joshua wrote:

0073

It was just an idea! I actually meant spitting on the lenses while outside (away from people) but now that you have pointed it out I can see that doing it in the supermarket might cause a issue! I did not think it through!

It was not until I came to England that I realised I had no need any more to improvise on many things to make every day life easier. But, if you want to explore the saliva thing and do not want to risk corona virus on other shoppers - just get a dog to lick your glasses before putting them on!

You can tie the dog outside the supermarket then just go out each time your glasses (or gasmask lenses!) steams up!

The dog of course, in between licking your glasses,  may also lick other things that dogs like to lick, but this should help to fight the virus and help to make sure people keep two metres away from you!

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Higgins wrote:

So, who‘s gonna believe this?

Trump now labels Dr. Fauci „being a disaster“ and „if I‘d listened to him, we‘d have now 500.000 deaths“

Well, Fauci was always the voice of being careful - in the ears of some overly cautious - so how could that claim have any substance?
For sure, Fauci‘s suggestions would have led to less fatalities, so it‘s just an idiotic claim - obvious, blatant and a lie!

Wouldn‘t it have been smarter saying „If I‘d listened to him, we‘d have 10 million more unemployed“ or „stock market would have lost 10% more“?

Why put such an obvious lie out and who‘s really believing this sh*t?

Never understimate the blind stupidity of the Trump base, The Deplorables.

Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 49 years.

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That's practical thinking! Brilliant  ajb007/biggrin

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Our Minister for Health, Jens Spahn has announced today, that he‘s Covid infected.

Not sure how I feel when the man, who is in charge for keeping us all safe is not able to achieve this even for himself  ajb007/mad

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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Pharmacy gigant Pfizer say they are in the last phase of the testing of their Covid-19 vaccine and they will be ready for approval in the US in the third week in November. Since Europe doesn't have an EUA – Emergency use authorization sysem like the US an approval in January is more likely here.

About half of the covid-19 infectedin Norway are born outside the country. Are there simular statistics in other countries?

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Sky News: Coronavirus: Welsh government forced to intervene after Tesco blocks period products from sale.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- … e-12114985

I'm  guessing there aren't  many women in
The Welsh government or Tesco management  ajb007/rolleyes

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Why did you guess Welsh government has few women ? They're the ones who intervened after Tesco blocked period products.

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Only a joke as they brought in the
" only essentials " rule, I'm not
Making a political point  ajb007/wink

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I perhaps maybe got your point now ....

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Could be also in the Rant Box, but....

2 of my pet peeves when it concerns retail:

1. Here in Germany part of the hygene concept is, that stores are controlling the number of customers in their location.
Many go cheap and force you to use a shopping cart and they have limited the amount of shopping carts along with their shop sizes.
Well that would be ok, when there would be a saniter so that I can clean the handles before I touch them.
The 1$ store in my neighborhood has someone who is sanitizing every cart before the next customer touches it.
But the big retail chains don't bother! You are forced to touch the filthy handles and if you don't take a cart, there is a bouncer, who reminds you "friendly" to use a cart.

2. "Contactless Payments"
So on checkout, many retail stores recommend "for the protection of us all" not to use cash but a card.
Ok, so I enter or swipe my card but then have to touch the filthy pen to sign what is written on the computer screen!
And I can't use my own pen because those touch screens require the filthy plastic pen!

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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"Andrew Cuomo killed 6700 elderly citizens because he forced them back into their nursing homes while they where infected"

I wish, that CNN would have asked him this 2 days ago when he was on their chanel.
I admire Cuomo's leadership during the first wave of the pandemic so, decided to go a bit deeper into the topic because I found it difficult to believe that this happened like I am hearing from Right Wing Channels on and on.

For a fact check go here
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 … vid-death/

And if you want the short version:

>>We rate this Mostly False<<

What is true is, that there have been 6700 people dying in nursing homes in NY during the first wave
And Cuomo ordered nursing homes to take back their people - even when they where still infected.

However:

- nursing homes could refuse by declaring that they are not having the capabilities taking care of infected elederlies (and this may have had financial consequences for those nursing homes)

But: If we all remember, NY's hospitals where overflown with patients at a time and to take care for emergency patients, decisions had to be made to send infected people home to make room for more urgent cases.

And the perception that those returning patients brought the virus back to those nursing facilities has been debunked, because the virus was spreading there already - it has been mostly brought in by staff.

I take this as another example that the reality if far more complex than a screaming headline in Social Media Channels and I can only encourage everybody to do a bit of a research before making judgement.

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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So from next monday, we will have a partial stop of all activities for 4 weeks.

While we are in a relatively good position compared to most of our neighbours, our numbers have doubled every 7-10 days and the leaders fear that the hospitals may get overwhelmed in some weeks.

My favorite scientist Dr. Christian Drosten explained it like that:
Imagine you are sitting on a heavy truck in an endless road downwards and the brakes don‘t properly work.
You can just break for 5 seconds now and then.

It‘s important hitting the brake for 5 seconds at the beginning and not quite late when the speed has gone too high and you drive off the curve.

He said, hitting the brakes now for 5 seconds may be enough to slow the truck down so that we can pass thru the coming months without overwhelming our health system.

Our stop means, that Schools and offices remain open but homeoffice must be done whenever possible. Retail remains open, all restaurants, pubs and bars are closed.
No tourist activities are allowed, gatherings of more than 10 people are not allowed with a maximum of 2 households.
In 2 weeks the situation will be reassessed.

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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Someone in Sweden has started producing a hand sanitizer called "Tegnell's tears", named after the scientist who is the man behind Sweden's failed Corona strategy.  ajb007/lol
Sweden has lost ten times as many to the pandemic as Norway (adjusted to population size)  and the Swedish economy isn't even doing better than the other Nordic countries that has an active anti-corona policy.

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In the UK we need at least the tiered restrictions for England which the Westminster government has to get through parliament on Tuesday. A risk is posed by a group of rebel backbench Conservative MPs who oppose the proposed system of tiered regulations and who invoke a false binary between public health and the economy in order to 'prioritise the economy' - many of these MPs also happen to be arch-Brexiteers - and a further risk is created by the government's own political sop of promising to lift some restrictions over the Christmas holiday. I know the whole situation is awful but, really, people need greater resilience and a steadier nerve to get through this pandemic - without putting overwhelming pressure on the health services and seeing spikes in avoidable deaths.

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Number24 wrote:

Someone in Sweden has started producing a hand sanitizer called "Tegnell's tears", named after the scientist who is the man behind Sweden's failed Corona strategy.  ajb007/lol
Sweden has lost ten times as many to the pandemic as Norway (adjusted to population size)  and the Swedish economy isn't even doing better than the other Nordic countries that has an active anti-corona policy.

I'm not up on this. Last I heard, Sweden was doing well and we should have been looking to their example. Now I hear otherwise. I thought the Swedish economy was rubbing along nicely compared to the UK. Or are you comparing it to Norway?

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If memory served it's compared to the other Nordic countries.
Covid deaths in Sweden are going way up again, 50-70 each day compared to Norway's roughly 0-2 (based on memory again, I'll check later)