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I would like to see a black 006 or 008 in the next film though!

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Nice to haveyou back, Joshua  ajb007/smile
I'm sceptical to a black Bond too.

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Here's my thinking about the way forward for Bond in the context of this question.

No doubt the phenomenal popularity of 'Black Panther' (2018) has given producers of action genre movies plenty to think about, including Eon, yet the platform of BP's success was the particular construction of the MCU (the Marvel Cinematic Universe) and its roots in Marvel Comics. Since T'Challa's comic book origins in 1966, his black identity has been inflected with different cultural meanings, reflecting changing times, but (i) his place as a hero of colour in the MCU needed no racial re-boot - he was always black - and (ii) BP, as a movie with a largely black cast of characters, was able to fit in a whole franchise of films without those films' other established characters intruding on its own dynamic and space. In other words, BP presented as 'being' a statement without needing to 'make' a statement. Then 'Infinity War' (2018) assimilated Wakanda in the larger dynamic of the MCU, according it central significance in a multicultural universe.

Bond's legacy and fictional platform are different. So what are the options there? a) A swan song Bond could be a retired agent, his OO prefix assigned to another agent - who may be a woman of colour. Back in 1989, 'Doctor Who' was already in that territory. Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart (Nicholas Courtney), a stalwart of the show in the 70s, comes out of retirement from UNIT to make an heroic last stand in the serial 'Battlefield', finding himself working alongside his replacement, Brigadier Winifred Bambera (Angela Bruce), as well as the Doctor, in defeating The Destroyer.  b) A new Bond for the next cycle of Bond movies could be a liberally minded white male character in his 30s or 40s, operating in a contemporary world shaped by Black Lives Matter.  Or c) a new Bond for the next cycle of films could be played by a black actor.

Casting Bond with a black actor would present as making a statement in a way that, in the MCU, BP never needed to: just because of the legacy of who Bond has always been; and the legacy of Bond's international milieu, which historically has been configured largely from white perspectives. Which isn't to say that bullet couldn't be brilliantly shot. If a black male actor... Bond for sure. If a black woman... why not simply give Naomie Harris a new franchise as Eve, or Lashana Lynch a new franchise as Nomi? Bond could be rested altogether... (The obvious answer to that question is that, if Eon's way forward was indeed a female actor of colour as the lead, she'd probably inherit the 'Bond' moniker: 'Bond' is the trademark which sells the franchise.)

I think a black male Bond is more likely, post-Craig. But it would also be great if, let's say, we got a new white male Bond cycle alongside a sister franchise in the same universe, with a Nomi/Eve in her own series of films (as at one point was mooted for Jinx. Or if two stables of movie are one too many from a commercial point of view: team up, on a genuinely equal footing, a male Bond with a female OO in the same series of movies...? Wouldn't work; Bond doesn't 'do' equal footing with allies, not in real terms; he's not 'buddy movie' material... So yes, on balance, I think the way forward is more likely to be a single black male Bond...).

Last edited by Shady Tree (8th Nov 2020 13:28)

Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 49 years.

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Yeah I think Nomi is shaping up to be a pretty supercool character who I would potentially be interested in seeing more from, but I don't really see the point in giving her her own series because she appears to be a British superspy who works for M, gets gadgets from Q, drives an Aston Martin and wears an expensive diving watch, and there's not much point in making that film when you have James Bond films being made (and they'll make more money, not because of race or gender but simply because he's a more established character).
Unless she ends NTTD in a totally different place: if she leaves MI6 or something or has some other unique position in the world then perhaps that could become more interesting.

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As a note further to my post and your reply, there's something else I'd welcome: a series of faithful period adaptations of the Fleming thrillers, as somebody has already suggested, but as a lower budget sideline. At least for those novels, such as 'Moonraker' and 'Diamonds Are Forever', which were never properly adapted in the first place. Maybe as VOD TV films - so as not to step on the toes of an ongoing progressive Bond franchise in the cinema (in a world where the cinema even survives). To quote a publicity line for CR67, everything Bondian that would be cool is "too much for one James Bond"!

Last edited by Shady Tree (8th Nov 2020 13:30)

Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 49 years.

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Could you do them on a lower budget? I don't know.