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https://i.postimg.cc/D8G1wLV3/IMG-3435.jpg

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Here's the bit of that article by Meddings where he describes how they shot the various scenes: he mentions the different scales of Lotus models used for the Atlantis shots here:


https://i.postimg.cc/XGzPKrtz/Screenshot-2020-12-23-at-17-50-07.png

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Thanks for the images and all the information. The photos of Derek with the models are the ones I mentioned, I couldn't remember they included the Lotus. The article looks very interesting

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Yes, it's good, you can read the whole thing here:

https://theasc.com/archives/1979/archiv … -1979.html

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emtiem wrote:

Yes, it's good, you can read the whole thing here:

https://theasc.com/archives/1979/archiv … -1979.html

Thanks, I look forward to reading it

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Asp9mm wrote:
emtiem wrote:
Asp9mm wrote:

He made two submarine models and one standard Lotus model for the drop shot into the ocean from the underwater perspective, all the same scale.  All the pictures above of the miniature Lotus Sub are all the same model. They never used the second one.  That was the one that remained for years at Pinewood and is now back with EON. As I said, I can’t remember whether that one was working or not. The screen used one isn’t as the motor and inner workings are mullered.

I'm not sure that can be right: you can see a hand holding the rig which moves the miniature sub version along and I'd guess that's about 400mm long max; if the one in the promo photo with Meddings was built for the film at the same time it looks to be more like a metre long, wouldn't you say?
That hand could pretty much reach down and grab the car with thumb and fingers on either side of it; you couldn't do that with the big one he's sitting next to. Maybe he just misremembered how many models there were.


It probably just an optical illusion.  No one has ever mentioned any other scale models ever being made and Meddings himself confirmed they didn’t.  As all of the existing models are still around from filming including the original moulds, then the evidence is pretty strong in Meddings being correct. 

It’s true people forget about the details of the stuff they worked on, but he certainly had all of his faculties and was still quite young at the time.  So until any evidence pops up that they made more models in different scales, then I’m inclined to believe him.

Do you think the article and the photo together suggest that there were different scales? When I look at that photo there’s no way it’s four foot long, or that the water distortion is happening only where the car model is and not distorting the Atlantis leg behind it: Meddings himself saying they used different sizes seems proof enough, do you not think?