Is No Time To Die available to watch online illegally?

Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
Now, before Barbel jumps on this thread, I am not asking anyone to provide a link to where we might find it.

I do not want any details about the plot - the reason I am posting this on Off Topic. Just the thread titles can give much away, so I am avoiding that. I haven't even seen the trailer, I've avoided it.

Nor do I want to hear if anyone actually has seen it.

I just whimsically wondered... is the Truth out there? It's very odd that a film should be pulled at such short notice and surely lots of copies must have been out there.

So a simple: Yes, No, Don't Know will suffice!
"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    No.

    I don‘t think that it‘s out there.
    Usually bootlegs are done when the first copies are shown in theatres, so unless someone breaks in at EON‘s vault, it will not happen.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent
    it seems like they had already beefed up security practices after the script-leaks of the last film.
    Just about all we know of this new one has been part of deliberate PR strategies, the only spoilers are whats in the trailers, and some online controversies the producers seem to have deliberately stoked as part of PR.

    just guessing that since security measures were already in place, that they're prepared to guard the actual film somehow until official release date




    (... still, those hackers love a challenge, so it may yet happen)
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Now, before Barbel jumps on this thread, I am not asking anyone to provide a link to where we might find it.

    !

    Ah, how well you know me...
  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    How far they got to release, there would have been copies on digital hard drives, 35mm film, and bluray screeners that get passed around between company executives and no doubt gearing up for the DVD/Bluray release.They are. doing very well to keep it under wraps as there is never just one copy -{
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,631MI6 Agent
    That's a very good question. I've certainly not heard of anything, although most of my friends who lurk on the darkweb know better than to include me in such conversations as they know what I think of illegal music/films/TV/books etc.

    You're right that they've done a good job to keep it under wraps, too.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    Okay... how about now? Is it out there? Again, I've avoided seeing both trailers and have no interest in what you've learned about the film, so I don't want details.

    But this movie was pulled a fairly short time before it's release date last month. Got pulled when, September? Surely copies were out there by then? What about the posters? Normally there's a whole load of posters out there months before the film goes out. Admittedly in the Craig era they were never any good but still.

    We can't event talk about the new James Bond film anymore. It's the old James Bond film. :o It just hasn't been released yet.

    I'm not even sure Billie Eilsih's song will be eligible for an Oscar if the film hasn't gone out yet and by 2022 it will be really old news.

    Part of me thinks someone else should have another crack at the song! Or that that the entire film should be buried for a decade and then released as a kind of time capsule. Like that cream cake you were gonna have and then decided you could do without it.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,324MI6 Agent
    I remember when this forum wouldn't allow posts of stills that were owned by Danjaq/Eon
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    I remember when this forum wouldn't allow posts of stills that were owned by Danjaq/Eon

    Yes, I do too. I'm glad this rule doesn't extend to verbal communication about illegal copies of the movie possibly disseminated via electronic media.
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    0073 wrote:
    I remember when this forum wouldn't allow posts of stills that were owned by Danjaq/Eon

    Yes, I do too. I'm glad this rule doesn't extend to verbal communication about illegal copies of the movie possibly disseminated via electronic media.

    It doesn't extend to discussing the theoretical possibility of such items. It definitely extends to verbal communication about providing them.
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    0073 wrote:
    I remember when this forum wouldn't allow posts of stills that were owned by Danjaq/Eon

    Yes, I do too. I'm glad this rule doesn't extend to verbal communication about illegal copies of the movie possibly disseminated via electronic media.

    It doesn't extend to discussing the theoretical possibility of such items. It definitely extends to verbal communication about providing them.

    Yes, absolutely agree on this!
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    Look, I haven't even seen the trailers. I don't want a link posted and I don't want a PM telling me where to find one - I am not being coy here. Really I don't. I'm avoiding spoilers let alone the whole movie.

    I am simply interested in if anyone has read the script or seen the film - seems to me everyone could get to read CR while it was shooting (the script, not the novel!) and China leaked a bit on Spectre. I don't know of any leaks, and aside from the theme song, I don't even know of any advertising posters.

    This lockdown is admirable. But it's also extraordinary.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent
    I know youre avoiding it, Napoleon, but theres a lot of spoilers being discussed in the actual No Time to Die subforum (where this thread should actually be). Dont know how people can possibly know all that stuff just from trailers and interviews.

    I've been avoiding those threads since March and hopefully by november 2120 or whenever the film gets released will have forgotten what spoilers I did read.
    one I do remember: the theme song sounds like an unfinished demo!
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    one I do remember: the theme song sounds like an unfinished demo!

    :)) :)) :))
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,324MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    0073 wrote:
    I remember when this forum wouldn't allow posts of stills that were owned by Danjaq/Eon

    Yes, I do too. I'm glad this rule doesn't extend to verbal communication about illegal copies of the movie possibly disseminated via electronic media.

    It doesn't extend to discussing the theoretical possibility of such items. It definitely extends to verbal communication about providing them.

    Fair enough!
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    I can see this film being put back to August now.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 3,177MI6 Agent
    August 2022 ??
  • frommeyerfrommeyer ChicagoPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    On the one hand, I'm kinda sorta hoping it just gets pushed back to November. I've always liked Bond in November as a tradition. Plus, by November, the vaccine will have had a real chance to stretch its legs; it'll be a hell of a lot safer.

    ...on the other hand, another 10 damn months? :#
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    See what you mean, but they're talking of another lockdown in the UK around winter, so I can't see that would make it profitable. Not being negative, but you just don't know, yet another strain could evolve and off it goes again. Winter is a bad time for flu and other bugs anyway.

    If the cinemas could get their act together they might arrange open air screenings of the big blockbusters, with some social distancing. Just to clear the decks and create an event.

    Me, I grew up with the Moore Bonds and these were always summer based, until they began to clash with the Hollywood blockbusters, then they got shoved to November.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent
    drive in's were a big deal round here last summer, they should have a summer opening and take advantage of the drive in market.
    That wont help me because I don't drive, and don't want to spend two hours in another persons enclosed automobile anymore than enter their dwelling. But maybe if I had a friend with a convertible?

    they really oughta just go straight to streaming at this point, make some money back. They can have event-style theatrical showings later on once we're all vaccinated. People will go even if they've already seen the movie, just like the theatres have had success showing classic films on the big screen and and people would always pay to see them as they're meant to be seen despite already having the same film on dvd.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    Where is 'here' Mr Potts? Your location setting is non too precise! :D

    How much money do they make back on streaming?

    I'd still hold out for an August release. Maybe they could have 'vaccination' screenings for the elderly earlier on - wow, that sounds glamorous, doesn't it? But in a way that does sound a lovely idea and a way of gradually easing the release of the film.

    I suppose you'd then get rabid Bond fans 'abducting' the elderly so they can get in to see the film! :#
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,119MI6 Agent
    I'm really thinking it will be moved from April now, but even November '21 may be too soon.

    Prof. Whitty (Chief Medical Officer for England) mentioned for the first time yesterday that certain restrictions may have to be re-introduced over winter 21/22. He didn't elaborate but I'm guessing a return to face coverings indoors? Tiers 1 and 2 perhaps? Not even taking into consideration any further new strain of the virus.

    With the roll out of the vaccine (first jab) only providing 50% protection and a large proportion of the population not due to their first jab until much, much later in the year, how feasible will crammed cinemas and red carpet events realistically be in November..? :( I am, and always will be in favour of big screen cinema releases for Bond. For me there is just something so special about the whole experience, but having waited (what will be) 6 years for the latest instalment, rather than push it back to Apr '22. I think I would prefer to see it via download and have a very small gathering of family/close friends in April '21 (regulations permitting) and watch in the comfort of my own home with Dry Martini's on tap.
    "Any of the opposition around..?"
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    Amazing to think this film could have come out in Nov 2019 isn't it? Three or four months of box office, then the DVD and BluRay release. Ker-ching!
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,698MI6 Agent
    One of the problems today is there's so many movies released every week. If people were comfortable enough, I suggest having one movie across all the screens in once complex. Limit the seating per cinema. Stager the start times. Only thing is every movie would want the same treatment.

    I'm not sure how well the box office numbers were for Wonder Woman 84. Not sure what the streaming numbers were for WW 84. If a compromise could be made for movies, maybe this could be a way certain franchise or big budget movies could be released for the time being.

    Of course I'm at the point if they released it on Blu-Ray, I'd buy it without seeing it on the big screen.
    Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Amazing to think this film could have come out in Nov 2019 isn't it? Three or four months of box office, then the DVD and BluRay release. Ker-ching!

    Indeed shame as it would of all been done and dusted & they would have enough spare time on their hands to write the next script and cast DCs successor :))
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