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Nov 2021 is so close to 2022 60th films anniversary they should just shunt it to spring 2022 and go bells and whistles on a big blow out for DC and announcement of new era.

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007JBDCMWR wrote:

Seems confirmation is due Nov 2021

https://twitter.com/jamesbondlive/statu … 05409?s=08

If this is correct I think this is the right move. Vaccinations will start for the general populations in around April (just a guestimation) and old people and high-risk groups are not the core audience for Bond. Perhaps for "Death on the Nile"  ajb007/shifty 
But most of the people who want to get vaccinated will be by November, at least in the developed world that's bought up 80% of this year's vaccines. If EON confirms November soon they can keep their powder dry for the fall.

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Matt S wrote:

They’re doing what they think is going to make them the most money. Most of us don’t know their exact situation, so I don’t think it’s fair to pass judgement on them waiting. Us seriously fans who don’t want to wait are a small minority of people. Most of the audience isn’t thinking about the film right now.

VOD, streaming etc has worked out well for many lesser releases but the two experiments with big tentpole films has been a bit of a bumpy ride. Mulan suffered as many people balked at the idea of paying a premium fee (around $30.00) on top of the monthly fee they pay for Disney+. Wonder Woman 1984, while initial numbers were high, at least people could see it without paying a premium in addition to the monthly HBO Max fee but the film is not very good and there were technical problems with streaming the film because of bandwidth limitations and the large number of people trying to stream the film especially during the holiday season. When I watched WW 1984 on New Years Eve the film froze on 3 occassions and I had to wait 15 minutes plus for it to buffer each time....not a fun experience, especially for such a meh film. If that was NTTD to having those kind of technical issues, I would have been livid.

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Number24 wrote:

...old people and high-risk groups are not the core audience for Bond ...

this is an interesting point, worthy of debate.
I think "old" people are the target audience for a film series going back to 1962. A new James Bond film in the theaters is like a classic rock band touring yet again, of interest mostly to who grew up with the series. The young folk have other film franchises they regard as their own.

and maybe like the classic rock audience, the potential market for a new Bond film is more valuable to the theatre owners because the older nostalgia driven market has more money to spend (middle aged boomers with grownup salaries, retired folk with pensions) and is more likely to go to an actual theatre rather than be content streaming.

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I‘ve said it before so I‘ll say it again: if this movie will indeed be pushed back once again (we all know it will), EoN should NOT attach a specific release date to it anymore.

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AugustWalker wrote:

I‘ve said it before so I‘ll say it again: if this movie will indeed be pushed back once again (we all know it will), EoN should NOT attach a specific release date to it anymore.

I think they need a date secured far in advance in case they do want to release it then. And I like having a date to look forward to, even if it does change again. It would feel less hopeful to me if there were no release date.

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Matt S wrote:
AugustWalker wrote:

I‘ve said it before so I‘ll say it again: if this movie will indeed be pushed back once again (we all know it will), EoN should NOT attach a specific release date to it anymore.

I think they need a date secured far in advance in case they do want to release it then. And I like having a date to look forward to, even if it does change again. It would feel less hopeful to me if there were no release date.

Exactly. If it's playing in theaters, they need to plant a flag and "claim" a weekend. An interesting wrinkle in that model is that now no one knows exactly when all the WB films will be hitting HBO Max, as the release date strategy no longer applies.

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caractacus potts wrote:
Number24 wrote:

...old people and high-risk groups are not the core audience for Bond ...

this is an interesting point, worthy of debate.
I think "old" people are the target audience for a film series going back to 1962. A new James Bond film in the theaters is like a classic rock band touring yet again, of interest mostly to who grew up with the series. The young folk have other film franchises they regard as their own.

and maybe like the classic rock audience, the potential market for a new Bond film is more valuable to the theatre owners because the older nostalgia driven market has more money to spend (middle aged boomers with grownup salaries, retired folk with pensions) and is more likely to go to an actual theatre rather than be content streaming.

I've never seen the cinema audience at James Bond movies broken down by age, so I can't say anything for sure. I'm guessing the average age is higer than for superhero movies, but I can't remember noticing many gray-haired people at the cinema when a Bond movie is shown. My impression is that old people mainly show up for epics about WWII, the royal family or ideally both.
I'm not even sure we define "old" the same way. Here people above the age 70, especially those living at homes for the elderly and often aged 90+ get vaccinated now. You may have thought about a slightly younger age group.

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At this rate my NTTD clothing will be worn out before the movie is released  ajb007/crap

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Number24 wrote:

I'm not even sure we define "old" the same way. Here people above the age 70, especially those living at homes for the elderly and often aged 90+ get vaccinated now. You may have thought about a slightly younger age group.

yes I see, you mean folks in retirement homes who are already getting the vaccine. Actually, I would hope they wouldn't rush out to the movie theatre anyway, I don't believe these vaccines are going to make vulnerable people bulletproof, they're only ~90% effective at best and the virus is rapidly mutating.

I was thinking about me, and folks on this forum who have a year or two on me. I'm feeling pretty ancient and obsolete these days. But I'm definitely nowhere near the front of the vaccine line, not should I be.


But real point I was trying to make was the Classic Rock audience analogy, I do think the Bond fan demographic may skew similarly and be more inclined to see a film in a theatre, whenever possible again, even if it is already available to stream online.
I think they could release this film online now, make some of their money back, and we'd all still go see the exact same film in the theatre whenever it is possible even if it is a year later.
Maybe make the eventual theatrical release an extended version or Directors Cut, just as an added attraction.

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/no- … 49403.html
here is some more to add on the redelay delay hehe

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caractacus potts wrote:
Number24 wrote:

I'm not even sure we define "old" the same way. Here people above the age 70, especially those living at homes for the elderly and often aged 90+ get vaccinated now. You may have thought about a slightly younger age group.

yes I see, you mean folks in retirement homes who are already getting the vaccine. Actually, I would hope they wouldn't rush out to the movie theatre anyway, I don't believe these vaccines are going to make vulnerable people bulletproof, they're only ~90% effective at best and the virus is rapidly mutating.

I was thinking about me, and folks on this forum who have a year or two on me. I'm feeling pretty ancient and obsolete these days. But I'm definitely nowhere near the front of the vaccine line, not should I be.


But real point I was trying to make was the Classic Rock audience analogy, I do think the Bond fan demographic may skew similarly and be more inclined to see a film in a theatre, whenever possible again, even if it is already available to stream online.
I think they could release this film online now, make some of their money back, and we'd all still go see the exact same film in the theatre whenever it is possible even if it is a year later.
Maybe make the eventual theatrical release an extended version or Directors Cut, just as an added attraction.

Nice to get it cleared up. But I think it will be reasonably safe to go to the cinema by November. Enough people will be vaccines by then and we can't expect life to be 100% safe.