Recommend "The Saint" or not?

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  • TracyTracy the VillagePosts: 369MI6 Agent
    Quoting RogueAgent:
    If you have BBC America, via cable, you can see him daily in the afternoons. Roger Moore fits this character like a glove. You'll love it.

    I completely agree with you here, RogueAgent. I've mostly caught the Saint during the BBC Friday Night Lineup, which also features Moore in his next cult TV series, the Persuaders! Roger Moore is absolute perfection as the clever charmer Simon Templar, what I'd consider to be a glossier, more mysterious solo-agent version of John Steed of the Avengers.

    From what I've heard the Saint tends to be a TV series that you can easily rent from local public libraries, or so it seems to be the case where I am. Perhaps you could try looking there?
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  • _Gobinda__Gobinda_ Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    edited January 2005
    Quoting Tracy:
    From what I've heard the Saint tends to be a TV series that you can easily rent from local public libraries, or so it seems to be the case where I am. Perhaps you could try looking there?

    Well, the library is out of the question, since I live in Michigan's Upper Peninsula which is very sparsely populated. The local library is the size of a large apartment and doesn't rent videos, and the closest town with even a population over 10,000 is 100 miles away.

    But I found my local cable company DOES carry BBC America, which I was actually surprised at. I was looking at BBC America's lineup, and they have lots of great shows. Monty Python, the Persuaders, the Avengers, Blackadder? If only they had Absolutely Fabulous, I would be in British TV heaven! So I'll sign up for a different cable plan that includes BBC America soon, and then I'll scope out "The Saint".

    Thanks to everybody who mentioned how good "The Saint" is, as soon as I watch a few episodes I'll give my own opinion about it.
  • TracyTracy the VillagePosts: 369MI6 Agent
    If you're brave enough to dare watch the WE channel, you can occasionally catch Ab Fab. Unfortunately it tends to run during the daytime, according to my mum.

    I think BBC America broadcasted Ab Fab some time ago, but I don't know if they have within the last few months.
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  • one night standone night stand Posts: 127MI6 Agent
    Well, I wasnt too busy last night at midnight, so I decided to watch the Saint. I had watched a little of The Avengers beforehand and I didnt seem to like it too much, but as I started watching The Saint, I loved it. I was a bit skeptical on whether I'd like it or not, but now I think I'm hooked. The episode was The Scales of Justice and it seemed to be perfect. The suspense was there, ooh, I cant wait to see another.
  • TracyTracy the VillagePosts: 369MI6 Agent
    Quoting one night stand:
    Well, I wasnt too busy last night at midnight, so I decided to watch the Saint. I had watched a little of The Avengers beforehand and I didnt seem to like it too much, but as I started watching The Saint, I loved it. I was a bit skeptical on whether I'd like it or not, but now I think I'm hooked. The episode was The Scales of Justice and it seemed to be perfect. The suspense was there, ooh, I cant wait to see another.

    Were you watching the episode "Who's Who?" by chance? It's not my favorite episode plotwise as the actors playing the enemy operatives whose minds are swapped do a terrible job at imitating the mannerisms and style of speaking of the real Steed and Mrs. Peel. Patrick Macnee and Diana Rigg, on the other hand, are absolutely delightful as Basil and Lola. It's a pretty bad starting episode as an introduction to the series; I'd recommend "The Correct Way to Kill" (easily my favorite color episode) if you want to know what the Avengers are all about :). The Avengers tend to be much more focused on sci-fi high-tech and "Oh no, the Russians (always called the opposition, mind you) are out to wreck havoc!" sort of storylines while the Saint is more of a private eye sort of show.
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  • one night standone night stand Posts: 127MI6 Agent
    Yeah, I was watching Who's Who. I'll have to give the Avengers a few more watches before I can make the judgement. Thanks
  • Tee HeeTee Hee CBT Headquarters: Chicago, ILPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    The Saint is a great show. I have the whole color edisode collection (7 dvd sets) and I have already pre paid for the first black and white set which is available tommorow. I can't wait.
    "My acting range? Left eyebrow raised, right eyebrow raised..."

    -Roger Moore
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    I just ordered the Simon Dutton series off E-bay. I've been waiting for this to come out for ages. I missed it first time around and it's reputation ain't great, but it's out on DVD in a land down under so I've imported a copy. Has to be better than the Kilmer "My name is Bruno" version.
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Indeed the Dutton series is better than the Kilmer version, but there are a lot of problems with it. Simon Dutton is fine as Simon Templar, although some of the clothing he's given make him look more like a civil servant on his way home from his work. A lot of the stories don't make that much sense, with too much reliance on coincidence. And some of the people Templar is helping are prats. In fact in one episode he helps a man who has a child by a 12-year old Thai girl. I was genuinely astonished by this. Instead of helping the weak, he’s helping somebody who prays upon them. I know Templar is essentially a mercenary, but good grief. :s
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    According to Deadline/Hollywood, Adam Rayner is to play Simon Templar in a TV remake of The Saint. The pilot episode is slated to begin shooting later this month. The completed pilot is expected to be shopped to networks.

    Adam Rayner Lands Lead In 'The Saint' Remake From Jesse Alexander, Simon West
    http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/adam-rayner-saint-remake-jesse-alexander-simon-west/
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  • FelixLeiter ♀FelixLeiter ♀ Staffordshire or a pubPosts: 1,286MI6 Agent
    Moore Than wrote:
    According to Deadline/Hollywood, Adam Rayner is to play Simon Templar in a TV remake of The Saint. The pilot episode is slated to begin shooting later this month. The completed pilot is expected to be shopped to networks.

    Adam Rayner Lands Lead In 'The Saint' Remake From Jesse Alexander, Simon West
    http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/adam-rayner-saint-remake-jesse-alexander-simon-west/

    Could be interesting. It would have to be something excellent to attempt to rival my affection for Moore's Simon Templar though. I prefer Moore as the Saint than as Bond. Yet I don't see a remake being anything like the 60s series because it really is very much of its time - which is partly what I love about it. Moore's suits and perfectly groomed hair are the stars of the show for me :)) There's an episode where he goes to prison and he still looks perfect! :))
    Relax darling, I'm on top of the situation -{
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    An update from Deadline/Hollywood on The Saint TV pilot episode. Eliza Dushku is set to co-star opposite Adam Rayner. Also, Roger Moore has joined as a co-producer along with his son Geoffrey.

    Eliza Dushku To Co-Star In 'The Saint' Backdoor Pilot, Roger Moore To Co-Produce
    http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/eliza-dushku-to-co-star-in-the-saint-backdoor-pilot-roger-moore-to-co-produce/
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    Here is a photo (from the set?) posted earlier today by Eliza Dushku with the message #The Saint Craving new & delicious International Espionage? #SimonWest #AdamRayner RT

    http://instagram.com/p/Tdwrpft9ne/
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    According to Deadline/Hollywood, Roger Moore and Ian Ogilvy will appear in the new Saint TV pilot episode. Also joining the cast are James Remar (Dexter), Enrique Murciano (CSI), Thomas Kretschmann (Wanted), Beatrice Rosen (The Dark Knight), Yani Gellman (90210), Greg Grunberg (Heroes), Michael Ornstein (Sons Of Anarchy), Sonalii Castillo (Heroes), Sammi Hanratty (A Christmas Carol), Oliver Bell (The Sparticle Mystery), Kirsty Mitchell (Capone's Boys), and Jason Brooks (Star Trek).

    Former 'Saint' Stars Roger Moore And Ian Ogilvy Join The Cast Of New 'Saint' Pilot
    http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/former-saint-stars-roger-moore-and-ian-ogilvy-join-the-cast-of-new-saint-pilot/#more-392695
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    From The Saint Club. Two pics of Roger Moore and Adam Rayner on the set of the new pilot TV episode at the Eagle Ski Club in Gstaad, Switzerland.

    https://twitter.com/thesaintclub/status/295182209634156544/photo/1

    https://twitter.com/Major_Boothroyd/status/294869078311571457/photo/1
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    An interview with John Martin, co-producer of the new pilot episode. Amongst other things he talks about what drew him to the project, locations, Simon Templar's social scene, and the cast.

    The Saint Revival Promises 'New Take' on Simon Templar
    http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2013/01/28/the-saint-revival-promises-new-take-on-simon-templar/

    Adam Rayner and Ian Ogilvy
    saint-570x427.jpg
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    It will be great to see a new series of the saint. Can anyone remember they tried
    a remake before, I think it was in the mid 80's and he drove a black lambo. But I
    can't remember who played him etc. It was a one off and a series didn't follow.
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    It will be great to see a new series of the saint. Can anyone remember they tried
    a remake before, I think it was in the mid 80's and he drove a black lambo. But I
    can't remember who played him etc. It was a one off and a series didn't follow.

    I think you may be referring to the 1989 ITV series of six episodes starring Simon Dutton. I have never seen any of them so I am just guessing.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,238MI6 Agent
    The books are good too. Saint Around The World are great short stories.

    Maybe they created Pepper as a sort of Inspector Teal to Moore's Bond.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:

    It will be great to see a new series of the saint. Can anyone remember they tried
    a remake before, I think it was in the mid 80's and he drove a black lambo. But I
    can't remember who played him etc. It was a one off and a series didn't follow.


    I think you may be referring to the 1989 ITV series of six episodes starring Simon Dutton. I have never seen any of them so I am just guessing.

    Thanks Moore Than, That's it hadn't thought about it in years untill all the
    talk about the new Saint series. Oddly in my Memory it was an American series. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:

    It will be great to see a new series of the saint. Can anyone remember they tried
    a remake before, I think it was in the mid 80's and he drove a black lambo. But I
    can't remember who played him etc. It was a one off and a series didn't follow.


    I think you may be referring to the 1989 ITV series of six episodes starring Simon Dutton. I have never seen any of them so I am just guessing.

    Thanks Moore Than, That's it hadn't thought about it in years untill all the
    talk about the new Saint series. Oddly in my Memory it was an American series. :))

    On further investigation, I have discovered a 1987 pilot TV episode (starring Andrew Clarke) that aired on CBS in America. It was entitled The Saint in Manhattan. The Saint drove a black Lambo Countach 5000QV.

    Andrew Clarke - The Saint in Manhattan
    http://www.saint.org/actor-andrew-clarke.htm
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,238MI6 Agent
    Moore Than wrote:
    An interview with John Martin, co-producer of the new pilot episode. Amongst other things he talks about what drew him to the project, locations, Simon Templar's social scene, and the cast.

    The Saint Revival Promises 'New Take' on Simon Templar
    http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2013/01/28/the-saint-revival-promises-new-take-on-simon-templar/

    Adam Rayner and Ian Ogilvy
    saint-570x427.jpg

    Not seen this guy before, not too bad but it's his voice I want to know: Templar always had a light, liltish voice you'd imagine, very English but classless. Personally I'd have thought Hugh Grant might have made a good Templar in a 20-year franchise starting from Four Weddings and set in the mid-30s going to the early 50s, like Indy. Dial down the poshness a bit so he's more like in About a Boy maybe, but he looks the part. In his day, Dirk Bogarde would have been the perfect fit.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,238MI6 Agent
    Looking at his imdb page, is there a reason why he hasn't been flagged up as a Bond contender?

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1501374/?ref_=sr_1
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    Not seen this guy before, not too bad but it's his voice I want to know:

    This should help. Here he is being interviewed about the BBC series Hunted, in which he appeared.

    Hunted Interview with Adam Rayner
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q28SVcQ9Yk
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    A trailer for the new pilot TV episode of The Saint has been released. Apparently, there is interest form US networks. Roger Moore is a co-producer, he and Ian Ogilvy appear in cameo roles.

    TV Trailer: Simon West's Pilot 'The Saint'
    http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/tv-trailer-simon-wests-pilot-the-saint/
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  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    edited November 2013
    Just watched this on YouTube and I think it looks AWESOME!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhEI_jDRZw8

    Listen, just listen to Adam Rayner's accent....wtf have we not discussed him as a successor to DC?
    Got a very Brosnanesque style. Great looks, great action moves and that bod when he gets out of the pool...yummy!
    Trouble is he's 36 now which means he may be just too old when Craig finishes his term.

    From what I can glean off the Internet, the pilot still hasn't been picked up by a TV network yet though. Anyone else got news?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Still looks great, I wish one of the stations would pick it up.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • FelixLeiter ♀FelixLeiter ♀ Staffordshire or a pubPosts: 1,286MI6 Agent
    Looks pretty good to me. Would definitely like to see it.

    Earlier this year I made my interest in The Saint a tad more permanent...

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    Accidents and early deaths aside, Mr Templar's image will be walking round for another 50 years at least :)
    Relax darling, I'm on top of the situation -{
  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    Thought I would revive this thread. Anyone know if there are any plans to screen The Saint on DVD or release on DVD?

    Interesting pint that I read somewhere, but I can't find the article now....there never was a pilot fully filmed, just the trailer! Anyone know anything??

    If the full episode was filmed and completed postproduction, it would be a shame if it never saw the light of day.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Was the Saint supposed to be getting rebooted?
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