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When Bond is talking to M in her apartment in the beginning of the film, he makes a reference to her name "I had no idea M stood for..."  Does anyone know what it stands for?  Or is this supposed to remain unknown?

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In his Bond novels, Raymond Benson gives M the name of Barbara Mawdsley.  That COULD be the name Bond discovers in CR; otherwise, I think it's supposed to be unknown to us all.

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M in Ian Fleming's novels stands for Sir Miles Messervy. However, I don't believe the full name of any M in Bond films has ever been revealed.

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DEFIANT 74205 wrote:

M in Ian Fleming's novels stands for Sir Miles Messervy. However, I don't believe the full name of any M in Bond films has ever been revealed.

I think M's called Miles by Gogol in one of the films- Spy Who Loved Me? I think that's right. So it's a fair assumption that he's Miles Messervy in the films too.
And obviously there's the theory that Robert Brown's M could be Admiral Hargreaves- the character he played in Spy Who Loved Me!

Otherwise Dench's M could be anybody: Barbara Mawdsley's as good a name as any. I suppose she could even have played two different Ms so far- the one in CR does seem a bit different in character (and dress sense!).
I like to think that whatever the M stands for is simply a very embarrassing name that she doesn't want Bond to say, not for any reason of national security, but because she hates hearing it! ajb007/biggrin Maureen, perhaps? Mildred Mold?

Last edited by emtiem (12th Jan 2008 15:39)

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emtiem wrote:
DEFIANT 74205 wrote:

M in Ian Fleming's novels stands for Sir Miles Messervy. However, I don't believe the full name of any M in Bond films has ever been revealed.

I think M's called Miles by Gogol in one of the films- Spy Who Loved Me? I think that's right. So it's a fair assumption that he's Miles Messervy in the films too.
And obviously there's the theory that Robert Brown's M could be Admiral Hargreaves- the character he played in Spy Who Loved Me!

Otherwise Dench's M could be anybody: Barbara Mawdsley's as good a name as any. I suppose she could even have played two different Ms so far- the one in CR does seem a bit different in character (and dress sense!).
I like to think that whatever the M stands for is simply a very embarrassing name that she doesn't want Bond to say, not for any reason of national security, but because she hates hearing it! ajb007/biggrin Maureen, perhaps? Mildred Mold?

I had always supposed that the M character played by Bernard Lee and Robert Brown were the same person, in the same way as Bond is the same person played by 6 different actors.

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Yup; that probably makes more sense- I'm inclined to agree with you. Some people think he's Hargreaves, and there's nothing onscreen which disagrees with that. Not sure how likely it is you'd have two Admirals in a row in charge of MI6 (and who like the same paintings in their office!) but I wouldn't argue with anyone who thinks he's Hargreaves.

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emtiem wrote:

Not sure how likely it is you'd have two Admirals in a row in charge of MI6

Not that unlikely, actually. When a military officer is appointed to a certain position, he or she is generally automatically promoted to the rank commensurate with that position. So for instance, if an officer of the rank of Captain/Colonel/Group Captain, has been appointed head of, say, MI6, he/she will be promoted to the rank of Rear Admiral/Major General/Air Vice Marshal.

Last edited by DEFIANT 74205 (18th Mar 2008 13:17)

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That is quite interesting, but I do get the feeling that serving in the armed forces isn't a standard move for one who will be involved in the security services.

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Forty or fifty years ago it would have been perfectly normal, definately not now.  You would have to have been a career spook in the organization for some time or at least have very very great input, contact and liaison from the Home or Foreign office.

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