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Re: Tarrintino's spin on directing a 007 movie

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Let me correct that, I don't need a lecture from an immature young adult.

ajb007/lol Coming from you, that is an amazing compliment. Thanks. ajb007/biggrin

Okay, I know what you think of me. Is the discussion over?

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Dan Same wrote:
Rick Roberts wrote:

Let me correct that, I don't need a lecture from an immature young adult.

ajb007/lol Coming from you, that is an amazing compliment. Thanks. ajb007/biggrin

And there you go again.

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Re: Tarrintino's spin on directing a 007 movie

Rick Roberts wrote:
Dan Same wrote:
Rick Roberts wrote:

Let me correct that, I don't need a lecture from an immature young adult.

ajb007/lol Coming from you, that is an amazing compliment. Thanks. ajb007/biggrin

And there you go again.

Well, you can't expect me to ignore your offensive posts.

Is there anything really left to say?

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Dan Same wrote:

Is there anything really left to say?

No.


Just nevermind what I said.

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An un-educated opinion can be wrong.

ajb007/rolleyes You know, what they say about opinions. I agree, yes you are educated

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Re: Tarrintino's spin on directing a 007 movie

Okay.

ENOUGH.

Back on topic - with POLITE discussion - or this thread will be closed.

Everybody is entitled to their OWN OPINION - this thread is turning into a farce. If anybody wishes to continue in the manner of the last page or so, then please do so via  the PM system. Abusing other members will not be tolerated.

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I thought this one was suppose to leave me alone:


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ajb007/rolleyes You know, what they say about opinions. I agree, yes you are educated

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For my own part, I'm a fan of Tarantino, and enjoy all of the films I've seen---Pulp Fiction is my favourite, and I think in time it will be viewed as a classic---although I didn't see his half of that drive-in double-feature deal with Robert Rodriguez, because neither one interested me, striking me at the time as one pastiche too far...

And I do think his dialogue is one of his strong suits, although---like many successful artists---he tends to overindulge himself on occasion.  At his best, though, the words 'dance around' the subject at hand, completely ignoring the thread of the plot, and revealing things about the characters that enrich the film for me.  To compare dialogue from one film era to another, IMHO, is like comparing a Kandinsky to a Rockwell:  many regular readers of the Saturday Evening Post, from years gone by, might not give the magnificent and startling Painting with Green Center a second glance...

Tarantino will get my ticket money for Inglourious Basterds (sic? ajb007/wink ), because I like the genre/milieu, and I'm curious, because---like one half of Siegfried and Roy---if you play with tigers long enough, you're going to get bitten, and I'm dying to see if it's Quentin's turn to get mauled  ajb007/shifty

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To compare dialogue from one film era to another, IMHO, is like comparing a Kandinsky to a Rockwell

Styles may change for the times but their will be always the underlining principles to create captivating dialogue. IMO (see I used it now lay off me) Tarantino is completely incapable of doing anything more then infantile with the spoken word.

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Tarantino is undoubtedly a very talented director, and IMO he may be able to do a Bond film provided that he tones down his propensity towards over-the-top violence, and shows some restraint in writing dialogue (if he gets to contribute to the writing process), since the dialogue in his films tend to stray to the verbose side.

Having said that, I think that QT, being an experienced and skillful action-movie director, would bring an assured style and his own vision to the action scenes in a Bond movie, rather than copying techniques that are in vogue and overcompensating for his lack of experience by forcing weird and unnecessary flourishes into the action sequences (which, unfortunately, was what happened in the mess that is QoS).

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As long as we can post IMO and ask people to back off of them I may as well point out that Tarantino is quite baffling to those who fail to understand him or his work and overcompensate by incessantly using words like hack, infantile, rip-off, hack, hack, hack and even attacking others with different opinions.

That being said, I agree frostbitten, it would be a very assured style that only an auteur (and I use that in the purest sense of the word) could deliver. But referring to your comment about his writing the dialogue, I don't believe he would take on a directing project over a film he wasn't allowed to write, which as Loeffelholz pointed out, EON would never allow to begin with.

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Please if there is a God, no!!! (Could anyone really see Uma Therman as Vesper? She was bad enough as Mrs. Emma Peel!)
If someone big wanted to do a Bond film it should be out of care. The essentials of 007 must still be present in any incarnation.
Ridley Scott or Mike Hodges would make interesting Bond films.
And of course Hitchcock was pursued...but North by Northwest is essentially the pre-Bond movie.
Here is the big what if: a Kubrick Bond film.

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Here is the big what if: a Kubrick Bond film.

I could see him doing a loyal adaptation of You Only Live Twice. That would really have been something to see.

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Here is the big what if: a Kubrick Bond film.

A brilliant director, and one of my all-time favourites, but he had a coldness which I don't think was suited to Bond. I'm not at all disppointed that Kubrick never directed a Bond film as I don't think he would have done a good job, as great as he was.

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Well, Kubrick did make his mark on a Bond film--he showed Ken Adam how to light the massive set in TSWLM.  That said, I agree with Dan--Kubrick was a great director, but not a BOND director.  Besides, he'd have taken YEARS just to get one 007 film in the can!

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Besides, he'd have taken YEARS just to get one 007 film in the can!

Yes, indeed. ajb007/lol The other problem was that he demanded total control. There was no way on earth he would have agreed to be in a situation (post-Spartacus) where he had to cede authority to the producers.

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Well, Kubrick did make his mark on a Bond film--he showed Ken Adam how to light the massive set in TSWLM.  That said, I agree with Dan--Kubrick was a great director, but not a BOND director.  Besides, he'd have taken YEARS just to get one 007 film in the can!


I think YOLT would have tickled his fancy because of the grand atmosphere, a loyal adaptation is something that would definetly attract a director of his caliber. I think if the producers were willing, they would have given in some leeway.

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If Kubrick directed any of the Bond movies, it would be considered by film snobs to be the best in the series and a complete failure to any of the usual fans because it's purposeful continuuity errors, unexplained random imagery and long pointless takes. I hate Kubrick's work. Hate hate hate it! I've nothing against those who appreciate his contribtion to cinema, but I personally find no value in it.

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You're not alone there agent wade, I hate Kubrik's work too. I just don't get most of it and I'd hate to see it with a Bond film. I always think there is an element who like to appear to be in the know with certain things, a snobbery towards intelligence and understanding. These are the same people who look at all manner of obscure art and "get" what others don't. I just bet they are saying, "What the f**k is that?" like everybody else.

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As much as I love the guy, I'm very happy that Tarantino didn't get a chance to make "Casino Royale". Three reasons:

1) It wouldn't have been a re-boot
2) Uma Thurman as Vesper Lynd
3) A chubby Pierce Brosnan as Bond

I've grown to love "Casino Royale" so much over time that I can't even imagine it being any different. But I would certainly love seeing Tarantino directing the first movie with the new Bond actor after Craig's run ends.

He may be a collage artist but I think his talent is undeniable.

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While I wouldn't want Tarantino directing a Bond film, I do love the idea that CR wouldn't have been a reboot and that Brosnan would have been Bond. ajb007/biggrin

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While I wouldn't want Tarantino directing a Bond film, I do love the idea that CR wouldn't have been a reboot and that Brosnan would have been Bond.

I heard that he wanted it to follow the events of OHMSS, thus being something like a more revenge-oriented Diamonds Are Forever. Which is a cool idea.

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i really would like to see Quentin as a director in a Bond movie...

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Cool photo. ajb007/biggrin

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I loved Inglourious Basterds, which was definately made for guys who enjoyed watching Cinema Retro staple action movies on TV, by a guy who did so himself.  There were so many layers of nods to the genre and maybe I'm in the minority among audiences but I'm one that he particularly touched with this movie, inappropriately or not. 

As far as CR or any other Bond film, I think Tarantino has more than average film-making skills, taste and style (even when discounting his eccentricities), but as said in this tread the challenge for him would be the restraint against overindulgence.  His strength though, as displayed in IB, in reinterpreting worthy elements in both iconic and obscure films may not work in a Bond movie, since the series itself has become institutional since the 60's and has been paid homage cinematically in countless ways. 

Perhaps an interesting challenge for Tarintino (on top of restraining self indulgence), is to give careful treatment to the most basic Bond mythos, avoiding the EON staples and going back to the Fleming elements and their nuances that were richly evocative in the narrative, just as the early producers (Terrence Young, Cubby and Harry) did in translating Bond to the movie screen for the first time.  Therefore, going retro IMO would be the best approach.  It's important to consider the nature of the subject matter despite its period setting and doing a David Lean style interpretation would not automatically be comparible to Fleming; this is where Tarantino's edgy "vision" fits best with Fleming's, which we must admit was pretty eccentric for its time.  But without said discipline, the danger would be making a period Bond movie too much like Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes that despite it's huge entertainment value, is sorely missing any traces of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

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