Will Bond 24 be a remake of "Live and let Die" ?

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  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    I liked the comments made at the bottom of the article by Larry Holden. He
    jumped right on the writer for being so loose with Mr. Big's character. For those
    who didn't see it...

    The antagonist of Live and Let Die in both the novel and film is Mr. Big, a master criminal who in the film is a drug baron, and in the novel, is a crafty coin smuggler..”

    A crafty coil smuggler? That’s your take on this villain? Her Majesty’s
    government would not investigate just a crafty coin smuggler! When Fleming wrote the novel during the fifties cold war, Mr. Big’s history
    included hi-jacking trucks for Legs Diamond, working for the OSS during WWII then recruited by the Soviets as an agent for SMERSH, then settling into New York as an imbedded Russian spy and head of his own underground criminal gang. His coin smuggling was merely an effort to use ancient pirate treasure he found to help finance his operation and to send to Moscow. Some crafty coin smuggler!
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    I didn't (and don't) like the Roger Moore films (and I can explain why). But they're still James Bond films.

    I feel the same. And for what it's worth, I think Skyfall is as "real" a James Bond film as any other. -{
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • james362001james362001 Lancaster, California USAPosts: 338MI6 Agent
    After Sam Mendes saying the thought of him preparing and doing Bond 24 at this time would make him "physically ill", I think Sam Mendes is getting cocky. Getting a swelled head are we?
    Okay, if the producers do find a new director soon in 2013, maybe there is a slim chance of Bond 24 being filmed in 2014, but I don't see it being ready for a November 2014 release, based upon Daniel Craig's upcoming schedule with his stage production.
    There are plenty of directors and producers-want-to-be directors in the sea out there and they don't have to wait for Sam Mendes to become available.
    However, I have read 12 directors have already turned down the offer to direct Bond 24. It's too bad Martin Campbell will not return to direct another Bond movie. He is already 70 though.
  • 007yler007yler Posts: 21MI6 Agent
    As one of my favourites from the series, such a strong aspect of the film was the uniqueness of the villians, and almost über-fantasy of the voodoo/aspect fear of the villian's lair. As incredible as all 3 Daniel Craig file have been, I'd like to see slightly more of a departure into the really classic Dr.No/YOLT/LALD/TMWTGG style villian's lair where Bond has to evade more obstacles. Also, most of the iconic villians and henchmen were quite unique - oddjob, tee hee, jaws. The future characters should make a more lasting impression because of their unique traits. (Oh the memories of watching odd job with his hat when I was really young lol!)

    That being said, it shouldn't turn into a plot with constant, overly impressive stunts/CGIs, like a Schwarzenegger movie, or some parts of DAD.
    "Did you ever ask why? Why we topple all those dictators, undermine all those regimes, only to come home, well done, good job, but sorry old boy, everything you've risked your life for has changed"...
    "...It was the job we were chosen for"...
  • Richard--WRichard--W USAPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    There is no truth to the rumor.

    A couple of years ago Barbara Broccoli stated in an interview somewhere that they are not interested in remakes.

    It's a good idea, though, from a creative point of view.

    I wish that You Only Live Twice, Diamonds Are Forever, Live and Let Die and Moonraker could be remade in accord with the novels. I wish somebody, anybody -- not the Broccoli's -- could remake The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only and Licence to Kill the way Richard Maibaum originally wrote them, before his scripts were changed. But that's just wishful thinking. It will never happen. One family owns the film and TV rights to James Bond in perpetuity. They will never sell it or allow another entity to control it either creatively or financially.

    If we have to wait until 2016 for another James Bond movie I would rather they get rid of Daniel Craig and find a new actor. This waiting 3 to 4 years for a James Bond movie is ridiculous. I'm getting to the point where I just don't care anymore about Daniel Craig and James Bond.
    ...
    If Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli don't want to keep up the momentum and bring out a James Bond movie in 2014, then to hell with them. I look forward to the next generation of Wilsons taking over.
    ...

    lowelker wrote:
    ....I don't think I can really wait until 2016!!! I know I'm at the mercy of EON productions,,,, but I think I'll add my concerns to my nightly prayers.

    ...Here is the way I see it. Since Daniel Craig and his wife are doing a stage production from October 2013 to February 2014 in New York, it doesn't seem their will be any time for pre-production stuff in late 2013. They probably want to give John Logan more than a year to write the screenplay.
    I'm just guessing, but I wonder if they are waiting for Sam Mendes to be done with his stage productions in 2013-14 and then coax him back into doing Bond 24.

    It looks like we might have to wait until 2015 for an actual release of the next movie. The producers don't seem to be in any hurry this time like they were with Quantum of Solace (2008). ...


    Under the circumstances I think it will be 2016 before Bond 24 is released.

    They should call it The Long Wait.

    Bond 24: The Long Wait.

    At this rate the next Bond film -- Bond 25 -- will be in 2019 or 2020.

    That means Daniel Craig will have made less Bond films over the longest period of time of any actor to take on the role. He's a multi-millionaire now, he doesn't need to work for money, he can do what he wants, his contract is secure, and he's in no hurry. He doesn't care if you don't get your Bond fix. The Broccoli family have been through 23 of these films already and one more is no big thing. They'll get around to it when they get around to it. They know the franchise will keep itself going without a new installment, and what they eventually deliver won't make or break the franchise one way or another because the fan base accepts anything.

    As much as I would like to see the franchise change ownership -- taken over by more discerning hands who know how to deliver a film to the marketplace every two years -- I fear the opposite will be true. After Michael G. Wilson retires, Barbara Broccoli will continue to deconstruct the character and transform the series into something else until she is too old or dead. Then their children or stepchildren -- who, going by the videogames they've been writing, are even less talented than Michael and Babs -- will take over. James Bond will stay in the family. There will never be another point of view. There will never be another take on the character. This gene pool of diminishing returns will never let go of the film rights. Never. It's their ticket through life.

    Four years is a long time to wait for the next miserably depressing installment into the deconstruction of James Bond.
    The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,417Chief of Staff
    When do you start your stand-up tour, Richard ? Funniest thing I've read in ages :))
    YNWA 97
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Richard--W wrote:
    Four years is a long time to wait for the next miserably depressing installment into the deconstruction of James Bond.

    Then don't wait for it. Why not move on to another franchise that measures up to your all-knowing and demanding standards? Police Academy, perhaps? 8-)
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think Police Academy 2 was the last true, Police academy film. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I think Police Academy 2 was the last true, Police academy film. :))

    But you say that only because you don't know any better, not having read any of the original novels on which the Police Academy characters are based. Nor, I suspect, have you studied police comedy screenwriting, directing or acting. So your opinion, though possibly sincere, is surely misguided and uninformed. That being the case, I'm afraid your opinion isn't vaild. Sorry about that, old man! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Sometimes you can be very naughty BL. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • gussguss South Wales, UKPosts: 195MI6 Agent
    Why a remake of LaLD
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Sometimes you can be very naughty BL. :))

    I have no idea what you're talking about. :D
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,882Chief of Staff
    Oh, dear, another rant about how poor, unappreciated Richard Maibaum's perfect scripts were turned into twaddle by those heartless producers and how his unrealized legacy is being destroyed by those producers' pinheaded heirs. (Which makes me wonder if what Maibaum wrote was never really filmed, how can his "vision" be damaged? And never mind that screenwriters are not novelists, who are in charge of every aspect of the story, but people hired to do a job. . .he can write a brilliant script, but if the producer or director doesn't like it, it gets rewritten. Something you'd think Maibaum, who worked decades in the industry, would understand. But I digress.)

    I keep thinking back to my undergraduate days at the university, when a particularly fiery evangelist would appear on campus. He and his wife would shriek at the top of their lungs about what fools we college students were. We thought we were happy and satisfied, they screamed, but our professors were "raping" our minds; we were so tied up in acquiring false knowledge, making "lustful" connections, and focusing on the "needs" of the world that we were blinded to the "truth" of the spiritual world; and we would, of course, regret our choices, in this world or in the next. . .

    I think most of us remained happy with what we got from the university. I believe the evangelist and his wife are out there shrieking on some corner, ignored, laughed at, but happy in the belief they've got it all figured out.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    I think Police Academy 2 was the last true, Police academy film. :))

    I am sure BL liked the grittier tone of Police Academy 5 8-)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    I think Police Academy 2 was the last true, Police academy film. :))

    I am sure BL liked the grittier tone of Police Academy 5 8-)

    Absolutely! Much truer to the original characters, and certainly not as over-the-top as Police Academy 3 & 4.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    ... but the weepy main actor..... :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Then we had all the Controversy of the New actor for Police academy Five. The Blond hair
    the lack of several old characters, Still it made a fortune. If only we had some kind of
    expert to explain it all to us. :v
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Then we had all the Controversy of the New actor for Police academy Five. The Blond hair
    the lack of several old characters, Still it made a fortune. If only we had some kind of
    expert to explain it all to us. :v

    Oh behave! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    it's all depending on the scripts, you ignorants :p
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    This thread has run out of ideas.
    Consequently, I'm gonna watch Live and Let Die now!

    :)) :)) :))
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    I think the rumours come from the fact that Elba has put in a barnstorming performance in Luther, and has international appeal and the fact that

    It's trolling.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I think the rumours come from the fact that Elba has put in a barnstorming performance in Luther, and has international appeal and the fact that

    It's trolling.

    Exactly! And I suspect he knows it.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • lotuslotus englandPosts: 292MI6 Agent
    Live and Let Die is the first bond film I need saw as a 10 year old ! It could be re done ...... but the atmosphere of the 1973 film will not be matched
  • L JonesL Jones Posts: 131MI6 Agent
    Although, I have to say seeing an adaptation of "Live and Let Die" the novel done in a film in a way that was true to the way Fleming wrote it would really be enjoyable. It's still one of my favorite Fleming novels.


    Why would any Bond film have to be true to one of Fleming's novels? Most of the movies tend to be a lot better than the novels. Fleming was a colorful writer, but not a great one. At least to me.


    And a remake of "Live and Let Die"? How unoriginal. Why not do an adaptation of a John Gardner or Raymond Benson novel?
  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    Just watched LALD (1972) and I don't think a remake would be appropriate. However, I would just love to see a "homage" to the opening scene in Bond's home.....just imagine....

    Craig in bed with a hottie in his super cool minimalist pad somewhere in South London. Doorbell rings, knock, knock....Craig gets out of bed in boxers not bothering to put a housecoat on! At the door is Ralph Feinns, M! Briefing ensues over coffee. Moneypenny arrives with plane tickets and in walks Ben Wishaw as Q with a new watch!

    Could be an awesome start to Bond 24! Anyone else think so???
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    It's late Strangeways, go to bed. Or mess about looking at 1980s pop videos on youtube... :D
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    For me at least I've had enough of all the Homages to past Films. I'd like them
    to stop, and come up with some new great scenes. Stop looking back and push
    forward
    , Bond is cool and even trendy again, So go for it. The killing of Sévérine
    is a case in point of a new scene which I can see being used in Bond Documentaries
    along with, The croc jump, etc for years to come.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Bond lifeBond life Posts: 57MI6 Agent
    guys I like the idea but I heard that its loosely based on the man with the golden gun
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,417Chief of Staff
    Bond life wrote:
    guys I like the idea but I heard that its loosely based on the man with the golden gun

    No....Skyfall had elements of TMWTGG...can't see them doing that again...well, not THIS soon !
    YNWA 97
  • GoldenEye85GoldenEye85 Posts: 278MI6 Agent
    As good or bad as they are, as much as I may not like some of them, I don't want ANY of the older Bond films to be remade.
    1, GE 2, CR 3, SF 4, TWINE 5, Spectre 6, TMWTGG 7, DAD 8, LALD 9, AVTAK 10, LTK 11, Octopussy 12, Moonraker 13, TLD 14, GF 15, QOS 16, Tomorrow 17, FYEO 18. TSWLM Not seen much: Dr. No, Russia, Thunderball, Twice, Majesty.

    1: Brosnan 2: Craig 3: Moore 4: Dalton 5: Connery and 6: Lazenby
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