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Topic: A question for gun experts.

I know nothing about guns ( as I think I've proven in another thread)  ajb007/smile
But was wondering tonight .......

In Camera lenses you can have stabilisation, to counter any little shake
In the photographers hand. So ( here comes my stupid question ) is there
Anything like that, a stabilised barrel ? To counter the shake of a soldier's
Hand. Or have I just invented a new Q toy.  ajb007/lol

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Re: A question for gun experts.

You've just invented something that can go wrong.  Guns are simple things, they don't have stabilisation.  The recoil would blow it all to crap.  A gun is just a tube with a projectile in it that is forced forward very fast by an explosion behind it.

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Re: A question for gun experts.

I'm getting a "negative" vibe from your answer,  sort of like it wouldn't work !  ajb007/lol
As I said, know nothing about them,  but if you don't ask you'll never know.

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Thunderpussy wrote:

I'm getting a "negative" vibe from your answer,  sort of like it wouldn't work !  ajb007/lol
As I said, know nothing about them,  but if you don't ask you'll never know.

HI TP im in your camp I don't know sod all about guns except they go bang ajb007/biggrin but I do remember reading about the
famous Tommy gun ,Thompson 45 cal sub-machine gun. I think ,and im sure our very own gun expert ASP9MM will put me
right ajb007/smile ,this was or could have been fitted with a Cutts compensator .This was on the end of the barrel ,so when  you fired it,some of the gases/flames would be diverted up wards,to help keep the barrel down.I may be totally wrong ajb007/rolleyes

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Re: A question for gun experts.

ajb007/lol  It was just one of those ideas that popped into my head last night. My
Ideas are not for the real world as another I had was ......
A rifle with a built in GPS targeting system, which ca n communicate with its
Bullets via WiFi, to correct for " windage" etc. To direct the bullet on target.  ajb007/lol

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Asp9mm wrote:

You've just invented something that can go wrong.  Guns are simple things, they don't have stabilisation.  The recoil would blow it all to crap.  A gun is just a tube with a projectile in it that is forced forward very fast by an explosion behind it.

Hey, he has asked the real experts and not morons.....

TP let me tell you that it's a brilliant idea and the first step to a Nikon PPK.

Hope that one projectile finds its way to ASP9mm s balls.
His head is too small to hit  ajb007/lol

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Re: A question for gun experts.

For the kind of money I'll be charging it will have to be a  Hasselblad.  ajb007/martini
It may not work but it'll be expensive.  ajb007/lol

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Why do people break windows before shooting out of them in films ?
As Sometimes they shoot through the windscreen of a car to kill
Someone ? I know this might be movie science, just wondering.  ajb007/biggrin

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Re: A question for gun experts.

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Why do people break windows before shooting out of them in films ?
As Sometimes they shoot through the windscreen of a car to kill
Someone ? I know this might be movie science, just wondering.  ajb007/biggrin

Possibly to avoid flying glass at close range as a bullet of course has much more velocity going through a window than does the butt of a gun or some other implement wielded by a human hand.

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Yes, sounds plausible  ajb007/smile , I was only thinking it would sort of tell
Whom ever was outside that you were about to start shooting.  ajb007/smile
( as I said, thought about it last night )    ajb007/lol

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Re: A question for gun experts.

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Yes, sounds plausible  ajb007/smile , I was only thinking it would sort of tell
Whom ever was outside that you were about to start shooting.  ajb007/smile
( as I said, thought about it last night )    ajb007/lol

Well, it was just an educated guess really, as I am far from being an expert on guns or ballistics.  ajb007/smile

I suppose the breaking of a window would give a warning, alternatively I suppose that one could just open the window as quietly as possible...

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Re: A question for gun experts.

ajb007/lol  yes, sadly in movies they just smash them  ajb007/biggrin

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Shooting through windows in movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBuAfIjsFVk  esp 0:39, 0:43 and 1:05

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Re: A question for gun experts.

ajb007/lol  one of my favourite movies, I nearly wet myself laughing at the bits
  With the cow !  ajb007/lol

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Re: A question for gun experts.

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ajb007/lol  yes, sadly in movies they just smash them  ajb007/biggrin

Especially the villain. Well you have to give the hero a chance, don't you?!  ajb007/lol

A great twist on this type of thing in films is provided by Scaramanga the film version of TMWTGG where we the audience think that he is about to shoot Bond unmolested but instead shoots energy expert Gibson as he emerges from the Bottoms Up club.

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Then there's the more direct approach of the "Charles Bronson Manoeuvre" as demonstrated in the clip below. Here, breaking the glass of a window before firing (or demolishing a wall for that matter) really does not matter very much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQyrWf7wNT0

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Re: A question for gun experts.

ajb007/lol  Yes Bronson, tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime !  ajb007/cheers
  I'd  have voted for him .  ajb007/biggrin

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ajb007/lol  Yes Bronson, tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime !  ajb007/cheers
  I'd  have voted for him .  ajb007/biggrin

He certainly had more teeth than Tony Blair!  ajb007/lol

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Re: A question for gun experts.

I've handled a few firearms in the past (we were taught never to use the 'G' word - they were known as 'weapons'). I'm no expert but perhaps the smaller lighter calibre pistol rounds could possibly be deflected slightly if shooting through thick glass as certain angles (I'm talking .22 or .25 & such, not 9mil). I don't know if it was true but I did hear a story that 5.56mm rounds - rifle rounds - are easily deflected.

As for breaking glass under most circumstances, unless you wanted to announce your arrival prior to opening fire (why?), I can see no practical reason.

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Thanks for that Stagg,  ajb007/cheers  I know nothing about them, Luckily on AJB there's usually
someone who knows something about them ( Or indeed most subjects)  ajb007/cheers  and if you
don't ask, you'll never know.  ajb007/biggrin

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Re: A question for gun experts.

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Thanks for that Stagg,  ajb007/cheers  I know nothing about them, Luckily on AJB there's usually
someone who knows something about them ( Or indeed most subjects)  ajb007/cheers  and if you
don't ask, you'll never know.  ajb007/biggrin

Yes, thank you indeed, Stagg. It's amazing the expertise we have here on AJB - there's always a member who knows the answer. This is a forum to be rightly proud of!  ajb007/martini

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Re: A question for gun experts.

As I said I'm no expert & don't profess to be. As for the idea of 'guided bullets' which has been put forward here. That technology already exists.

http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation … rt-bullets.

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Bloody Hell, I got one right !!!  ajb007/lol   ajb007/cheers
This has to go in my, I thought of it too late pile, along with luminous
Tattoo ink, to show up under UV light etc. Sadly it already  exists  ajb007/crap
I'm never going to make my millions if this keeps up !  ajb007/lol

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You should have put in for intellectual property rights!

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Re: A question for gun experts.

Firing directly at a target through glass using a pistol would not have any effect to the round, it would just go through it like - well like a bullet through glass! The whole smashing of glass before discharging the weapon has always been something of a misnomer to me.