Re: Pros and Cons: Die Another Day
He chopped him to Pieces instead
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He chopped him to Pieces instead
Pros
The first part of the movie up until Bond leaves Cuba.
Cons
The rest of the movie!
And I must comment separately on Jinx (Halle Berry), as I see that some commentators consider her as an asset, while others view her as one of the film's worst elements:
Pros
Seeing Berry on screen. She is top of the line when it comes to the gorgeousness of Bond Girls.
Cons
Just about every time Berry opens her mouth. She has absolutely some of the worst lines and worst line readings in the entire series.
+1 Agree with everything you say BL.
Hehadlotsofguts wrote :
" I liked him as well TP. An arrogant, power hungry jerk. Toby Stephens played him perfectly"
Yes, he was an arrogant tosser, I wanted Bond to kick the sh*t out of him
I'd settle for tossing the dude through a burning jet engine.
I've gone through my reasons for considering TND the all time low of the franchise. Others feel that way in this forum, so I'm not the only one.
Really? Can you name one? I mean, someone who feels TND is 'the all time low'? I can't recall seeing it dead last on anyone's list but yours... I could be wrong...
with your "chinese girls" and "personal prejudice" comments you are clearly crossing a red line
A 'red' line? Is that Commie reference? Are you saying I should move to Russia?
Okay, seriously, by 'personal prejudice' I mean something in your past that affects your judgement of the film- like for ME, I was severely traumatized by Bambi as a child, and consequently when a beloved or main character dies in a movie, my first reaction is 'this movie sucks'. When Matrix Revolutions came out I flat out stated that it was THE worst movie ever made.
Now I can say it's a well made flick that I just can't enjoy.
For years I couldn't watch YOLT because of Aki's death!
That's what I mean.
Thegreatgalling wrote :
" I'd settle for tossing the dude through a burning jet engine "
Yes either way he was toast ! although to be a bit of a dick about it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsrNEeqd6Q
You can go through a jet engine, with only minor injuries.
But I wouldn't want to try.
Must be something in the alignment of the stars ?
Sir Miles and Number24, arguing, Virgil37 and Chrisisall arguing
Last night it was Blackleiter and myself !
This really is getting more and more like an old folks home !
Now we are missing a good old Higgins and ASP9MM Row
Must be something in the alignment of the stars ?
Sir Miles and Number24, arguing, Virgil37 and Chrisisall arguing
Last night it was Blackleiter and myself !
This really is getting more and more like an old folks home !![]()
WHY WHEN I WAS A KID.....
We didn't even think you could remember THAT far back !
Thegreatgalling wrote :
" I'd settle for tossing the dude through a burning jet engine "Yes either way he was toast !
although to be a bit of a dick about it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsrNEeqd6Q
You can go through a jet engine, with only minor injuries.
But I wouldn't want to try.
Sure on an A6 intruder with a lengthy 8-9 foot air intake. That guy's life was spared because on that engine, the blades were deep within, and his arm prevented him from being sucked through the blades. When his helmet was sucked off and hit the blades, it killed the engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3Iz7b95-8
On typical airliners, the blades are close to the edge and make for interesting entertainment during bird tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1f0Tk-tD6k
EDIT: I know you were just joking around, but I had remembered this video and wanted to prove my intelligence to my deep seeded insecurities.
Last edited by thegreatgalling (10th Feb 2015 21:27)
Bloody hell, that's like watching a Saw movie.
" When his helmet was sucked off !". That's the way I want to go !
I'm always will to be taught new stuff, I have that printed on my business cards
That I leave in phone boxes .
Interesting videos
Bloody hell, that's like watching a Saw movie.
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" When his helmet was sucked off !". That's the way I want to go !I'm always will to be taught new stuff, I have that printed on my business cards
That I leave in phone boxes .![]()
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Interesting videos
I think we can agree then that Gustav Graves became Gustav Gravy.
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I'm always will to be taught new stuff, I have that printed on my business cards
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Virgil37 wrote:I've gone through my reasons for considering TND the all time low of the franchise. Others feel that way in this forum, so I'm not the only one.
Really? Can you name one? I mean, someone who feels TND is 'the all time low'? I can't recall seeing it dead last on anyone's list but yours... I could be wrong...
with your "chinese girls" and "personal prejudice" comments you are clearly crossing a red line
A 'red' line? Is that Commie reference? Are you saying I should move to Russia?
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Okay, seriously, by 'personal prejudice' I mean something in your past that affects your judgement of the film- like for ME, I was severely traumatized by Bambi as a child, and consequently when a beloved or main character dies in a movie, my first reaction is 'this movie sucks'. When Matrix Revolutions came out I flat out stated that it was THE worst movie ever made.
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Now I can say it's a well made flick that I just can't enjoy.
For years I couldn't watch YOLT because of Aki's death!![]()
That's what I mean.
Seriously Chrisisall, do not play games by using "chinese girls" and "personal prejudice" in the same sentence. It sounds much worse than you intended.
I've said it many times, I'll say it again. TND is a disjointed film. Action sequences put together. It's quite noticeable that the script was not properly developed. No "personal prejudice" whatsoever, no freudian theories, no child traumas, no racial bias... I tried watching the film many times, and always think the same. Just a very bad film. Period. DAD, the topic of this thread, is a much better film.
Just accept the fact that we all have a favourite and a least favourite film. It so happens that TND is my least favourite, and your third favourite, which I respect without getting into weird theories (like you must be blind or something).
No hard feelings right?
I'm happy you boys have kissed and made-up.
No hard feelings right?
'Hard feelings'? Is that a sexual reference? Are you saying something about my manhood?
Ha ha, no man, we're cool. I'm known for extensive deceased equestrian pulverizing...
Chrisisall wrote :
" I'm known for extensive deceased equestrian pulverizing "
Chrisisall and I only argue about TND. But when we do, it's tough...
I think a couple of thongs and a mud pit, might make it more
Of a spectacle, for the rest of us !
As long as we can all at least agree that Dalton was a great Bond, all is well.
AND, on topic: NO BOND EVER was more about the lasers than DAD.
Last edited by chrisisall (11th Feb 2015 01:39)
Blackleiter wrote:Pros
The first part of the movie up until Bond leaves Cuba.
Cons
The rest of the movie!
And I must comment separately on Jinx (Halle Berry), as I see that some commentators consider her as an asset, while others view her as one of the film's worst elements:
Pros
Seeing Berry on screen. She is top of the line when it comes to the gorgeousness of Bond Girls.
Cons
Just about every time Berry opens her mouth. She has absolutely some of the worst lines and worst line readings in the entire series.
+1 Agree with everything you say BL.
It's good to know I'm making sense to someone!
Last night it was Blackleiter and myself !
You call that an argument, TP? These others lads laugh at us old codgers struggling to find something about which we disagree!
We have to be careful, with your pacemaker and my blood pressure !
We have to be careful, with your pacemaker and my blood pressure !
So true, my friend!
AND, on topic: NO BOND EVER was more about the lasers than DAD.
Absolutely.
Eon knew lasers were a popular trope in fiction and that they were a motif in some of the other James Bond movies. So, they just went nuts with it.
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