Pros and Cons: Octopussy

245678

Comments

  • The Wicker ManThe Wicker Man EnglandPosts: 434MI6 Agent
    Fine points CA -{
    Every time I watch OP it goes up in my estimation.
    I have even got to the stage where the so called comedy moments don't bother me too much anymore - but if those comedy moments were taken out, and the film was played more seriously it would possibly be Moore's best. Although the scene in which Bond goes to check his watch whilst wearing the gorilla outfit cracks me up everytime.
    Great characters, locations, music, action, great film!
    1.ohmss 2.cr 3.frwl 4.ltk 5.gf 6.tswlm 7.sf 8.op 9.tld 10.dn 11.lald 12.tb 13.fyeo 14.ge 15.mr 16.yolt 17.tnd 18.avtak 19.sp 20.twine 21.qos 22.tmwtgg 23.daf 24.dad
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    The Film has its dark Moments though :)
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    Yes. The circus for example. Yes, it was full of clowns, but it really was a tense moment. Hundreds of people looking for some escapist fun realize that there is a bomb about to go off. Octopussy in conflict. Kamal on the run. Etc.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    The PTS and the Corpses in the Freezer -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    The pros far outweigh the cons in OP just like they do in LALD, TMWTGG, TSWLM & FYEO. :007)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    If Moore skipped MR and retired after OP in 1981, he would have a sterling Bond filmography.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    If Moore skipped MR and retired after OP in 1983, he would have a sterling Bond filmography.
    Very agreed here. His movies were not Connery or Dalton, but excellent in a "Saintish" manor... :D
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    You could say that The Moore Films have the most varied Locations in the Franchise.

    Urban, Jungle, Ocean, Desert, Snow, Underground, Outer Space, etc
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    You could say that The Moore Films have the most varied Locations in the Franchise.

    Urban, Jungle, Ocean, Desert, Snow, Underground, Outer Space, etc

    "Thank you!"

    +1
  • Brosnan_fanBrosnan_fan Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 521MI6 Agent
    Pros:

    -Excellent PTS (Love that Acrostar mini-jet!! :007) )
    -Both circus and Indian milieus add to the Bond canon culture
    -Intriguing Cold War story
    -Nice gallery of villains in this film
    -Both Maud Adams and Kristina Wayborn look gorgeous here :D
    -John Barry's score is terrific
    -Roger Moore in excellent form here

    Cons:

    -Moore really should have quit after this film; it would have made for an excellent swansong for him
    "Well, he certainly left with his tails between his legs."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    If Moore skipped MR and retired after OP in 1981, he would have a sterling Bond filmography.

    Moonraker brought the franchise on new levels in so many regards - it was absolutely important that EON made it.
    And it was important that the established actor pulled the movie - just like Connery with TB ,Brosnan with DAD and Craig with SF.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Many seem to hate the theme song to Octopussy :# but I like it. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    If Moore skipped MR and retired after OP in 1981, he would have a sterling Bond filmography.

    Moonraker brought the franchise on new levels in so many regards - it was absolutely important that EON mad it.
    And it was important that the established actor pulled the movie - just like Connery with TB ,Brosnan with DAD and Craig with SF.

    True. Moonraker was influential, which is different from being good. People tend to remember a standout a scene or two from a movie rather than how it coalesces together as a whole.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Many seem to hate the theme song to Octopussy :# but I like it. :)

    thumbsup.gif
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent

    True. Moonraker was influential, which is different from being good. People tend to remember a standout a scene or two from a movie rather than how it coalesces together as a whole.

    We should keep in mind that the audiences often have very much different opinions than us 007 NERDS.

    I am pretty sure that the normal guy connects Connery more with GF than TB and I am sure that the majority has very positive memories for MR and the Roger Moore association. I don't want to use the term "Casual Audiences" in that context X-(

    For decades, 007 talk meant dopey girls (oh, James... 8-) ), explosive cars and gadgets - elements which are not appreciated very much by the 007 diehards
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    Many seem to hate the theme song to Octopussy :# but I like it. :)
    I like it. I wouldn't listen to it if it wasn't part of the franchise, but it's a good little Bond song.
    1.LTK 2.AVTAK 3.OP 4.FYEO 5.TND 6.LALD 7.GE 8.GF 9.TSWLM 10.SPECTRE 11.SF 12.MR 13.YOLT 14.TLD 15.CR (06) 16.TMWTGG 17.TB 18.FRWL 19.TWINE 20.OHMSS 21.DAF 22.DAD 23.QoS 24.NSNA 25.DN 26.CR (67)
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    If Moore skipped MR and retired after OP in 1981, he would have a sterling Bond filmography.

    Moonraker brought the franchise on new levels in so many regards - it was absolutely important that EON mad it.
    And it was important that the established actor pulled the movie - just like Connery with TB ,Brosnan with DAD and Craig with SF.

    True. Moonraker was influential, which is different from being good. People tend to remember a standout a scene or two from a movie rather than how it coalesces together as a whole.

    I have to disagree. Moonraker is actually a very good film. It has a simple story, but it's effective. It has some of the best locations of any Bond film, and it uses the locations most effectively. The visuals are great, and the film has very high production values. These days it insults Bond fans because it doesn't take James Bond seriously. But that in no way prevents it from being a good film. I agree with Higgins on its importance. It kept the Bond series alive and relevant. Bond fans, casual moviegoers and critics at the time loved it.
    Visit my blog, Bond Suits
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Many seem to hate the theme song to Octopussy :# but I like it. :)

    thumbsup.gif

    It's fine, but pales in comparison to the songs before and after.
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    All Time High is a good song.

    I think the title Octopussy f***ed it over because no one in their right mind would make a song called that, so they had to go a safer route.
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    Many seem to hate the theme song to Octopussy :# but I like it. :)
    I like it. I wouldn't listen to it if it wasn't part of the franchise, but it's a good little Bond song.

    I can't listen to this song now without imagining Mark Wahlberg sining it.
    Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

    " I don't listen to hip hop!"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))
    Well Mark is a talented guy.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    I think the title Octopussy f***ed it over because no one in their right mind would make a song called that, so they had to go a safer route.

    Very true, and not far from John Barry's own thoughts when advising Tim Rice.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    # As an agent he not fussy, he go for any sort of ........
    Something tastefully, along those lines. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    I honestly can't decide which is Moore's best Bond... FYEO or OP...
    Fake bubbles vs. a Tarzan yell....
    Okay, back to OP! -{ :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    # As an agent he not fussy, he go for any sort of ........
    Something tastefully, along those lines. ;)

    Have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_QWkvtCXI
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))
    Very funny, " They don't like to take chances. They've worked with John Barry too long " :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Bondage007Bondage007 AustraliaPosts: 371MI6 Agent
    OP is a great watch and a solid 6 in my rankings. There's not much I don't like about it. Location work like all Glen films is not as great as others in the series but it's a hoot throughout.

    The serious and humorous bits clash but I like the mix, you get a bit of both.
    2019 Bondathon...in progress (6) FRWL (7) GE (8) FYEO (9) TND (10) MR (11) GF (12) LALD (13) DAF (14) LTK (15) TMWTGG (16) TB (17) TSWLM (18) DAD (19) AVTAK (20) YOLT (21) QOS (22) SF (23) TWINE (24) SP
  • ACACIA_AVENUEACACIA_AVENUE UKPosts: 1,774MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    # As an agent he not fussy, he go for any sort of ........
    Something tastefully, along those lines. ;)

    Have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_QWkvtCXI

    :)) :)) Excellent, never seen that before {[]

    Hey Barbel, maybe you could use your musical skills to produce lyrics from some of the other Bond films in the style of Stanley Rogers
    One of us smells like a tart's handkerchief.
  • The Debonair BondThe Debonair Bond Posts: 48MI6 Agent
    Just saw this yesterday. Such a great, underrated film, one of my all time high favorites of the series :)) -{
Sign In or Register to comment.