Pros and Cons: Live and Let Die

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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I think I like Sheriff Pepper more in TMWTGG, although overall I wouldn't say I'm a big fan of him.

    It's funny because you'd expect a fan of campy Bond like myself to love Sheriff Pepper, but I'm just not that big on him.
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  • Willard WhyteWillard Whyte Posts: 166MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Following up Connery was a big big thing, and Moore did that successfully

    Exactly, now it's normal to use the phrase "who will be the next James Bond?".Back in 1972, that just didn't exist. Connery was Bond. Another guy had replaced him and failed, so he had to come back in DAF. It must have been quite challenging for Moore.


    GL didn't fail playing Bond, OHMSS is better than all Sir Rogers films Imho.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Following up Connery was a big big thing, and Moore did that successfully

    Exactly, now it's normal to use the phrase "who will be the next James Bond?".Back in 1972, that just didn't exist. Connery was Bond. Another guy had replaced him and failed, so he had to come back in DAF. It must have been quite challenging for Moore.


    GL didn't fail playing Bond, OHMSS is better than all Sir Rogers films Imho.

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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I believe that EON wanted to do more films with GL, but he resigned due to advice from an agent.

    Ofc, the experts can correct me here.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    I believe that EON wanted to do more films with GL, but he resigned due to advice from an agent.

    Ofc, the experts can correct me here.

    No, you're quite right, AP- Cubby & Harry waved a multi-picture contract under his nose but he declined owing to advice from agent Ronan O'Rahilly.
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I'm curious, does anyone here prefer DAF to L&LD?

    I certainly don't, but I'd like to know if anyone here does.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Well, DAF does have the advantage of a top-rate John Barry score- and Sean Connery. Those (very important) factors aside, I'd say LALD is the more enjoyable movie. Simple answer- it depends on the mood I'm in! :)
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Barbel, what's your opinion of Sheriff Pepper?
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    "Same time tomorrow, Mrs. Bell?"

    Btw, Sheriff Pepper went through his worst nightmare (meeting the "Dooms Day Machine") :))
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Love that one-liner after Bond defeats Tee Hee: "Just being disarming, darling."
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,988Quartermasters
    I'm curious, does anyone here prefer DAF to L&LD?

    I certainly don't, but I'd like to know if anyone here does.

    It's a toss-up. Most days I'd go with DAF because it's Connery, but there's a lot to like in LALD (my 2nd favourite Moore Bond). DAF and LALD's theme songs are both in my top five, for sure.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Barbel, what's your opinion of Sheriff Pepper?

    He's a necessary evil, there to balance out the characters. There are no white villains in LALD, but at least there's a white fool- if he wasn't there, all the main white characters (Bond, Solitaire, Felix) are heroic. Similarly, there are two heroic black characters (Quarrel, Strutter) otherwise the main black characters (Kananga/Mr Big, TeeHee, Baron Samedi) are all villains.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,988Quartermasters
    Barbel wrote:
    Barbel, what's your opinion of Sheriff Pepper?

    He's a necessary evil, there to balance out the characters. There are no white villains in LALD, but at least there's a white fool- if he wasn't there, all the main white characters (Bond, Solitaire, Felix) are heroic. Similarly, there are two heroic black characters (Quarrel, Strutter) otherwise the main black characters (Kananga/Mr Big, TeeHee, Baron Samedi) are all villains.

    Yes, well said there. Pepper was so great a fool he needed an encore :#
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    :)) Of course.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,988Quartermasters
    I still ponder the esoterica of traffic control and goony-birds...the subtext was very deep in those days...
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    McCartney's song is so epic, and goes along great with the TS.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I do like the way they give the impression that the cards foretold that Bond and Solitaire would be lovers. It's pretty cool to see.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I remember reading somewhere ( I've reached the point of mixing up which books I've read things in ) :))
    That they used the cards to " foretell" The event, as it would involve Bond seducing a virgin, which is a
    bit" caddish" ;)
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Having a Bond film that involves the occult is indeed something interesting.

    Also, gotta love that boat chase.

    For some weird reason, Kananga just doesn't hit me that hard as a BV, apart from that scene when he removes his mask and later slaps Solitaire. Doesn't quite strike me the way Zorin, Scaramanga, Drax, or Carver do.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Kananga just doesn't hit me that hard as a BV

    Yeah he's very forgettable. IMO he's up there with Dominic Greene as forgettable.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    hmd, I notice that L&LD is your least fave of the Moores. What are your main issues with it?
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  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    Live and Let Die is a great Bond movie. I love it.

    I just saw a recent-ish interview in which Moore was asked whether he prefers Live and Let Die or For Your Eyes Only. He wholeheartedly backed LALD. I love when actors answer questions honestly.
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    They are 2 very different films.
    The Moore Era was really special, and you can tell by the way people are split on whic films of said era they like more.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    hmd, I notice that L&LD is your least fave of the Moores.  What are your main issues with it?

    Hmm, I don't find the storyline that interesting - and Moore isn't settled in yet. While I think it's a cool movie, the final boat chase stuff is awesome - it just doesn't do it for me like other films do.

    Then again, it may move up on my BluRay marathon occurring now!
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    hmd, I notice that L&LD is your least fave of the Moores.  What are your main issues with it?

    Moore isn't settled in yet.

    I agree. While I like his performance in L&LD, I feel that he didn't nail Bond as quickly as Connery, Dalton, or Brosnan. I give Moore an A minus for his L&LD performance, whereas I give Connery an A average in DN (it's for his GF performance that I give an A plus), the same to Brosnan in GE, and an A plus to Dalton for his TLD performance.


    Anyways hmd, what are your thoughts on Solitaire?
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    - and Moore isn't settled in yet.

    Sorry, but in my eyes, Moore is much mo(o)re settled in than Connery at the beginning of Dr. No and Craig at the beginning of CR!

    Not to mention Dalton B-)
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    - and Moore isn't settled in yet.

    Sorry, but in my eyes, Moore is much mo(o)re settled in than Connery at the beginning of Dr. No and Craig at the beginning of CR!

    Not to mention Dalton B-)

    I agree that Moore was very settled in as Bond from the beginning. But I think Dalton was too.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    We all have our opinions.

    Higgins is clearly a huge fan of Sir Roger.
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  • The Wicker ManThe Wicker Man EnglandPosts: 434MI6 Agent
    Roger was excellent in every Bond film he was in and hit the ground running in LALD. He made the part his own from his very first scene and never looked back. -{
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    For me, he was very good in L&LD, but had a gradual progression until he peaked in TSWLM, repeating the feat in MR and OP.

    But I will say that, for me, all his performances ranged from good to fantastic.
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