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stag wrote:

Disappointed perhaps sums up my experience. I was only half expecting this latest film to be better than Skyfall & indeed it was yet how those responsible still manage to spin out a 'storyline' over two & a half hours which at a push should have lasted no more than thirty minutes is a testament to their continued commitment to style over substance. On this occasion those responsible were indeed the authors of my pain. Sterile characters throughout & the stop start nature of the action began to grate from the point Madeline Swann made her appearance. I will go as far as to say that this will be my last new Bond film, at least until those in the driving seat learn that there is much more to James Bond than what they seem committed to produce.   

Bond, Bond wherefore art thou James Bond?

Couldn't agree more. SP has sort of neutered my enthusiasm and commitment as a Bond fan. When things look so promising and we're left waiting years to get a movie only to be served up something decidedly disappointing the whole experience just feels like a complete waste. Meanwhile, people will argue the more time they have the better the script will be. Rubbish. EoN have been playing it safe and not taken the strategic bold initiatives it should be taking to follow through with the promising start that CR rebooted with.

The media can fan cast all they want and EoN can waste everyone's time with their elaborate photocalls and press conferences but until some worthwhile creative changes are made and we start getting good Bond films again, I'm not really going to be interested.

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Sorry you feel that way about Bond, even with SP being a marked improvement over CR.

Still, SP is in the lower tier of Bond films in my opinion. I don't believe we'd be in this mess if it wasn't for CR06.

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double o ego wrote:

EoN have been playing it safe and not taken the strategic bold initiatives it should be taking to follow through with the promising start that CR rebooted with.

I have to say that I agree with this. With a franchise spanning over 50 years and 24 films one would hope that they would have the creative courage and ambition to try to continually evolve the series somehow instead of always eventually rehashing the same old classic Bond tropes and formula. If I want to see a "greatest hits Bond film", I just watch The Spy Who Loved Me or Goldfinger again. I see no artistically justified reason to recreate that style of film anymore in the 21st century. Just write a genuinely good script, drop the lazy fan service and focus on the core essence which is the character of James Bond. Everything else in the films should be open for evolution.

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I cannot help wondering what Cubby Broccoli would have made of the DC era films & the direction they have taken the franchise?

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stag wrote:

I cannot help wondering what Cubby Broccoli would have made of the DC era films & the direction they have taken the franchise?

Cubby would have been mad that Brosnan wasn't brought back for another film, and he would not have liked the reboot with CR since he didn't like the idea of a reboot with Dalton.

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Or, .....

He might have looked at the Box Office takings of Craig's movies
and said " Well done kids, keep it up "   ajb007/wink

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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double o ego wrote:

The media can fan cast all they want and EoN can waste everyone's time with their elaborate photocalls and press conferences but until some worthwhile creative changes are made and we start getting good Bond films again, I'm not really going to be interested.

+1

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Here is an article which may be of interest:

http://www.hitfix.com/news/heres-what-f … of-spectre

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Or, .....

He might have looked at the Box Office takings of Craig's movies
and said " Well done kids, keep it up "   ajb007/wink

I think both views can coexist.Cubby was a popularist first and foremost. I think the bottom line was what really motivated him. I always saw Saltzman as having the deeper vision for Bond, I don't think the worst elements of the 70's movies would not have happened with him (just a view, and happy to hear others)

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zaphod99 wrote:

(just a view, and happy to hear others)

Nice touch ajb007/martini

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I agree he has got a " Nice Tooshie"   ajb007/biggrin

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Touche!

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stag wrote:

Here is an article which may be of interest:

http://www.hitfix.com/news/heres-what-f … of-spectre

It was. He's a gentleman. But I guess I just liked it more than he did. ajb007/wink

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