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  • Agent LeeAgent Lee Posts: 254MI6 Agent
    It's kind of astounding to me that The Property of a Lady hasn't been used yet. It's definitely my number one pick for unused Fleming titles. Risico is cool, but I think there are better potential titles from the pages of Fleming, like Shatterhand, The Garden of Death or The Undertakers Wind.

    Another title I would like is Bedlam. If the next film were a continuation of the Craig era timeline, you could have MI6 initiate Operation Bedlam (originating from OHMSS) to hunt down the remaining SPECTRE affiliates
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  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    I read a rumour ( That's all it is ) that MG Wilson hates it as a title ? Anyone know if that's true.

    Seems as though Babs is in control of Bond (going by interviews with Mendes and Craig), so I don't see why MGW not liking it would have an effect.

    Risico is a great title. I think it, along with POAL and THR, should be used at some point.
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  • ToTheRightToTheRight Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    MrZareba wrote:
    Let's just hope that they will never call a Bond movie "James Bond".

    You know - like Rocky Balboa, John Rambo or most recently - JASON BOURNE. 8-)

    On the other hand that title would make sense if they would make a movie about Bond's youth - a deep origin story starting from the death of his parents. I actually would be pleased with a title like that.

    Not to mention, "Sherlock Holmes", "Star Trek", "Robin Hood", "The Muppets", etc etc .
    This seems to be a trend in lazy,unoriginal titles- yet it also seems to be accepted. I'm rather baffled that on forums and boards I've seen very little mention of the new Bourne title. Doesn't seem to bother too many people that it's just called "Jason Bourne" when the other films had snappier titles. If Eon ever did get so lazy to call a future film "James Bond", I'd be pi$$ed, yet I feel I'd probably be one of the few who would find that as a title completely unacceptable. It would be different if this were the first film of a series and the audience never heard of the character -like "Dirty Harry", or a remake of a classic like "Dracula", but Bond? No. 007 deserves the respect of each new film being given an individual and Bondian title.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    ToTheRight wrote:
    MrZareba wrote:
    Let's just hope that they will never call a Bond movie "James Bond".

    You know - like Rocky Balboa, John Rambo or most recently - JASON BOURNE. 8-)

    On the other hand that title would make sense if they would make a movie about Bond's youth - a deep origin story starting from the death of his parents. I actually would be pleased with a title like that.

    Not to mention, "Sherlock Holmes", "Star Trek", "Robin Hood", "The Muppets", etc etc .
    This seems to be a trend in lazy,unoriginal titles- yet it also seems to be accepted. I'm rather baffled that on forums and boards I've seen very little mention of the new Bourne title. Doesn't seem to bother too many people that it's just called "Jason Bourne" when the other films had snappier titles. If Eon ever did get so lazy to call a future film "James Bond", I'd be pi$$ed, yet I feel I'd probably be one of the few who would find that as a title completely unacceptable. It would be different if this were the first film of a series and the audience never heard of the character -like "Dirty Harry", or a remake of a classic like "Dracula", but Bond? No. 007 deserves the respect of each new film being given an individual and Bondian title.

    I think the trend will allow "007 in New York" to be used, though that may be too creative. :D
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  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,234MI6 Agent
    ToTheRight wrote:
    MrZareba wrote:
    Let's just hope that they will never call a Bond movie "James Bond".

    You know - like Rocky Balboa, John Rambo or most recently - JASON BOURNE. 8-)

    On the other hand that title would make sense if they would make a movie about Bond's youth - a deep origin story starting from the death of his parents. I actually would be pleased with a title like that.

    Not to mention, "Sherlock Holmes", "Star Trek", "Robin Hood", "The Muppets", etc etc .
    This seems to be a trend in lazy,unoriginal titles- yet it also seems to be accepted. I'm rather baffled that on forums and boards I've seen very little mention of the new Bourne title. Doesn't seem to bother too many people that it's just called "Jason Bourne" when the other films had snappier titles. If Eon ever did get so lazy to call a future film "James Bond", I'd be pi$$ed, yet I feel I'd probably be one of the few who would find that as a title completely unacceptable. It would be different if this were the first film of a series and the audience never heard of the character -like "Dirty Harry", or a remake of a classic like "Dracula", but Bond? No. 007 deserves the respect of each new film being given an individual and Bondian title.

    With you 100% on this. If they ever call a film "James Bond" then that's it, I'm taking my cyanide
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I threw mine away years ago ! :D
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  • Lady IceLady Ice Posts: 279MI6 Agent
    The leftover titles aren't really usable- Quantum of Solace was a stretch and I believe that it put the general public off (although I quite like it). You don't want a title where audiences are wondering what on earth it means unless it is an incredibly intriguing title. Risico doesn't work for me- it sounds more like somebody's name. The Property of A Lady sounds a bit too much like a period drama (I'm thinking The Portrait of A Lady here). 007 in New York sounds cheesy.

    Chapter names are a good call I think or just any title that has Bondian motifs in.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    I like the short story titles for the most part. I remember in Bondage magazine back around the time of Daylights, Michael Wilson mentioned they weren't planning on using The Hildebrand Rarity as a title, and that they'd probably start making up their own. Actually, now after QoS I could certainly see The Hildebrand Rarity as a cool film title. Fleming had a range of variety in his titles. The problem for me with the post Cubby films is that too many sound similar to each other. You could randomly pick 2 consecutive film titles from 1962-1987 and they'd be completely different. LALD and TMWTGG, OHMSS and DAF, etc Whereas TND and DAD are extremely similar and only a few years apart.
  • perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    I read a rumour ( That's all it is ) that MG Wilson hates it as a title ? Anyone know if that's true.

    Seems as though Babs is in control of Bond (going by interviews with Mendes and Craig), so I don't see why MGW not liking it would have an effect.

    Risico is a great title. I think it, along with POAL and THR, should be used at some point.

    They won't be used because the names have very little marketing potential.
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    perdogg wrote:
    I read a rumour ( That's all it is ) that MG Wilson hates it as a title ? Anyone know if that's true.

    Seems as though Babs is in control of Bond (going by interviews with Mendes and Craig), so I don't see why MGW not liking it would have an effect.

    Risico is a great title. I think it, along with POAL and THR, should be used at some point.

    They won't be used because the names have very little marketing potential.

    I disagree - I think they have massive marketing potential. There is enough intrigue about a a title like The Hildebrand Rarity or Risico to whet the appetite and Property of a Lady is very straightforward. And there is enough marketing around any Bond film for audiences to know what to ask for at the box office - much like QoS or Skyfall as titles.
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  • stagstag Posts: 2,083MI6 Agent
    This interesting short article pertaining to this very subject.......


    http://www.thebookbond.com/2014/12/daniel-craig-on-unused-ian-fleming-bond.html
  • stagstag Posts: 2,083MI6 Agent
    I saw a good article once about proposed 007 book titles which were rejected by Fleming or his publisher. I can't find said article but guess some of the titles could possibly be considered?
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent
    maybe they can use some of the alternate American titles?
    like You Asked For It, Too Hot to Handle, or Motel Nymph
    presumably those were all considered more marketable than the better known British titles
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    Here are some new suggestions:

    Frostburn

    Burnt by Frost
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    maybe they can use some of the alternate American titles?
    like You Asked For It, Too Hot to Handle, or Motel Nymph
    presumably those were all considered more marketable than the better known British titles
    pretty sure TP has a film called Motel Nymph in his DVD collection :))
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    :D He did have, but Sir Miles borrowed it and won't give it back!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,417Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    :D He did have, but Sir Miles borrowed it and won't give it back!

    I'm a fan of the acting....honest ;%
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Just like that magazine collection is only for the "Articles " ;)
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  • stagstag Posts: 2,083MI6 Agent
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    :D He did have, but Sir Miles borrowed it and won't give it back!

    I'm a fan of the acting....honest ;%
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    In the spy world an agent is "burnt" when his cover is blown. In SPECTRE someone was burnt in a different sense - Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
    If they continue the Blofeld story at the same time use a story about an agent who is or is in danger of getting burnt it could be interesting. Title?

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  • UnderwaterBattle007UnderwaterBattle007 Posts: 284MI6 Agent
    The Belles Of Hell was the original title of Fleming's OHMSS novel.
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  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    I read a rumour ( That's all it is ) that MG Wilson hates it as a title ? Anyone know if that's true.

    Even if it is, with the greatest of respect to Mr Wilson ... it's a Fleming title, so his opinion on its merits is irrelevant. Fleming thought it good enough to name a short story after that title, so who the hell does Mr Wilson think he is to oppose it?
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,417Chief of Staff
    I read a rumour ( That's all it is ) that MG Wilson hates it as a title ? Anyone know if that's true.

    Even if it is, with the greatest of respect to Mr Wilson ... it's a Fleming title, so his opinion on its merits is irrelevant. Fleming thought it good enough to name a short story after that title, so who the hell does Mr Wilson think he is to oppose it?

    He's the co-producer of the Eon Bond films...if he doesn't like it, he won't use it.

    Why are you so angry about this ?:)
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  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,324MI6 Agent
    Well, that exchange made my morning.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    I think Devil May Care should be used as a a Bond movie title, simply because it's a brilliant title. Some of the Sebastian Faulks novel can be used, but onely sparingly. After all a little bit of "Colonel Sun" was used in SPECTRE, so the Bond producers are using continuation material novels now. Since the boycot of Iran is lifted the country can be used as a location?
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,736MI6 Agent
    Great location, but I don't know if EON would want to deal with filming in a country like Iran; too much potential for problems...the entire production team could be arrested and tried as "Spies". That being said, another country could easily be used as a stand-in for Iran.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    I think the Iranian regime would be very interested in any positive exposure now. A production like Bond works very closely with the authorities where they work anyway, so getting arrested is very unlikely.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,736MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I think the Iranian regime would be very interested in any positive exposure now. A production like Bond works very closely with the authorities where they work anyway, so getting arrested is very unlikely.

    I was joking about the cast and crew being arrested....well kind of :)) . I'm sure the Iranian Regime would welcome some positive exposure but I don't think EON would be looking to deal with the potential headaches of filming in a country such as Iran. From an Iranian perspective, anyone remember the last time a western production was given permission to film there? Anybody remember Argo? That was based on a true story.
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