The Bond Armory

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    7289 wrote:
    BCFDRay wrote:
    Thank you 7289, taking the safety issues into consideration, I'm going to try casting the beretta grips in a clear resin to give the illusion that they have been removed.
    Regarding the tape, I'm kicking around the idea of duct tape since it was invented in the 40s and used by soldiers during WWII.

    Casting "clear" grip panels is a good idea. Much better than a true "skeleton" grip!

    I had no idea that "duct tape" was used by commandos... presumably it was black back then. Are there any references/photographs of tape being used by UK commandos in WW2 to improve the "grip" on personal weapons?
    I think originally it was a material based tape impregnated with rubber type substance.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    The closest modern tape that would have been used by Bond in the novels is the tightly woven black hockey stick tape.

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  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    7289 wrote:
    BCFDRay wrote:
    Thank you 7289, taking the safety issues into consideration, I'm going to try casting the beretta grips in a clear resin to give the illusion that they have been removed.
    Regarding the tape, I'm kicking around the idea of duct tape since it was invented in the 40s and used by soldiers during WWII.

    Casting "clear" grip panels is a good idea. Much better than a true "skeleton" grip!

    I had no idea that "duct tape" was used by commandos... presumably it was black back then. Are there any references/photographs of tape being used by UK commandos in WW2 to improve the "grip" on personal weapons?

    Originally it was an "Army Green" almost like OD
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    The closest modern tape that would have been used by Bond in the novels is the tightly woven black hockey stick tape.

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    Your collection amazes me -{
  • Bond Collectors' WeekendsBond Collectors' Weekends Gainesville, Florida USAPosts: 1,882MI6 Agent
    Awesome! Makes sense as it is a darker profile than other tapes I've seen.

    Somebody gonna get shot tonight!
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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    The closest modern tape that would have been used by Bond in the novels is the tightly woven black hockey stick tape.

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    Looks a lot like the "baseball bat" tape I used. The tape I bought was corrosive, and will rust steel after a while. Since many Beretta pistols have aluminum frames that might not be much of an issue for some. I just wrapped some vinyl tape on the handle first then carefully covered the vinyl with the bat tape.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    The stuff I used on that was actually a 1958 cloth electricians tape.
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Nice Beretta Asp9mm! Your Big Crown, Explorer dial Sub isn't that bad either :007). I approve -{.
    What was that old quote? "A gun...and a watch. I thought Christmas came once a year."
    a reasonable rate of return
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    Collecting props from the books was where my screen prop collecting began. I have about ten boxes like this with other items in. I know the evidence is stronger in favour of the Sub being used in the literary novels, but I love the Exp 1016.

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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,631MI6 Agent
    Fantastic stuff, Asp.
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    On 7289's caution about using a live fire handgun without the grip panels, I said I would attempt to cast the beretta grips in a transparent resin to give the illusion of the skeleton grips. Well, some packages were dilivered yesterday, the baby is asleep, and wife at work :)

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    We'll see how the molds come out in 6 hours!
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Collecting props from the books was where my screen prop collecting began. I have about ten boxes like this with other items in. I know the evidence is stronger in favour of the Sub being used in the literary novels, but I love the Exp 1016.

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    I'm in awe as per usual!
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Collecting props from the books was where my screen prop collecting began. I have about ten boxes like this with other items in. I know the evidence is stronger in favour of the Sub being used in the literary novels, but I love the Exp 1016.

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    You know, I think that the Explorer-dial Sub being the perfect compromise as it combines the beautiful dial from the Explorer while still having the usability of deep-sea diving with its water-resistance. It's like the Rolex version of the Planet Ocean. If I ever dreamt up a secret agent, he would most certainly wear that type of watch.
    I love your collection, ASP but the boxes are a bit...excessive for my tastes. I would store them in places where they could be (subtly) seen if I ever had a collection like that, but thats my personal taste.
    a reasonable rate of return
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    I had a little bit of flash on the top of the mold so it looks a bit rough, but the important area was very sharp and crisp

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    And the resin has been poured


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    It's going to be a long 18-24 hours!
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Success! This side is a little tacky still, once it's completely dried and i dremel the sides, I'll mount and post the finished product (minus the tape, I'm still debating)
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Looking good! Can't wait to see what the finished article looks like -{
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Sanding, finishing, and tapping will have to wait until tomorrow, but I'm pleased so far with the results.
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  • jbholstersjbholsters Posts: 179MI6 Agent
    More Paperwork then. Ugh I have several SBR's and suppressors so what's another $200.00. Govt extortion is what it is!!!
    BCFDRay wrote:
    Adding a stock to a pistol makes it a short barreled rifle. The KPOS measures 21.65" when fully extended, according to the FAB Defense website. The state of Maryland requires no less than an overall length of 29" if the barrel is less than 16" to make an SBR and you still have to pay the $200 NFA tax stamp. To meet me states requirements, I would need to have a 13.19" barrel on the Glock 17 to make an SBR since 4.5" of the barrel is covered by the KPOS. A company called IGB makes a 16" barrel for the glock so you can make it into a carbine, but the reviews aren't very favorable.
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    jbholsters wrote:
    More Paperwork then. Ugh I have several SBR's and suppressors so what's another $200.00. Govt extortion is what it is!!!
    BCFDRay wrote:
    Adding a stock to a pistol makes it a short barreled rifle. The KPOS measures 21.65" when fully extended, according to the FAB Defense website. The state of Maryland requires no less than an overall length of 29" if the barrel is less than 16" to make an SBR and you still have to pay the $200 NFA tax stamp. To meet me states requirements, I would need to have a 13.19" barrel on the Glock 17 to make an SBR since 4.5" of the barrel is covered by the KPOS. A company called IGB makes a 16" barrel for the glock so you can make it into a carbine, but the reviews aren't very favorable.

    What confuses me is the ATF says if the barrel is under 16" it's an SBR, but the minimum length must be 26" overall. So the KPOS Gen 1 doesn't meet the federal requirements. I think the SBR laws changed in 2013. I did speak with an NFA specialist who did confirm the KPOS when assembled would require a tax stamp
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    BCFDRay,

    Turned out pretty good ... get out the dremel!
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    7289 wrote:
    BCFDRay,

    Turned out pretty good ... get out the dremel!

    So I didn't take into consideration that my dining room table was just a bit off level and caused the grips to be thicker nearest the mounting screws :p
    I recast them a bit thinner and with a wedge to level it out. Should have a new result tomorrow afternoon.
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    edited May 2017
    This time around the grips have alot of small air bubbles, so I'll have to recast again, but they're getting there
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    I may fill in the some of the positive spaces in the mold to make it a little more clean looking also

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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    I like the look.

    Reminds me of the WW2 grips for the 1911 made from aircraft windshield. You are getting good results ... you could always try to emulate the original ASP and bead blast the grips except for the area that shows the rounds in the magazine.
  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    BCFDRay

    Unfortunately the only way to get rid of the bubbles is to degas the resin. If you are looking at doing a few resin casts then you can buy a degassing chamber. For small one off stuff I used vaccuum food storage jars and a hand vac pump, you could put something together for about $50.
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    I do have a sandblaster in my workshop, I may play around with the results.

    Gadget: I have a food vacuum sealer that has a "liquid" setting, ydo you think that could work?
  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    Some of the flat bag sealers have an external vacuum hose which would work on a vaccum jar. I use the FoodSaver brand of cannisters and most of their flat sealers have a hose connection. I had a vacuum pump already so I use that. They do a wide range of clear containers which give you the added bonus of being able see what's going on. It really is trial and error, my pump will produce such a good vacuum that resin will just spontaneously 'boil'. If it does that then reduce the vacuum and just give it a couple of runs, you'll see the bubbles just float out of the resin, most satisfying.

    http://www.foodsaver.co.uk/accessories/foodsaver-set-of-3-vacuum-sealing-canisters/FSC003-I-IUK.html#start=1
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Good information ... this is getting interesting!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    I'm so pleased men like you still exist, in a world of social media, Netflix etc here we have vacuum bags to de gas resin for pistol grips..... All home made -{ gives me faith. Well done gents {[]
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
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