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I like the blue for snow, but all others distract me.

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Matt S wrote:

It's nice to see that Bond has recovered from his hepatitis!

It really looks so much better without the yellow!

I mean, it wasn't really a surprise that Bond's liver was failing, but it's nice to see that it was just a stylistic choice.  ajb007/wink

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Morocco scenes. For the most part I'm okay with the original filters on the exterior scenes in this location, interior scenes not so much.

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Tangeirs%20Colour%20Grading_zpsh8wrwrzg.jpghttp://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Tangiers%20Original_zpsgqdspwcb.jpg

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Wraith%20Colour%20Grading_zpsx3yw6tbl.jpghttp://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Wraith%20Original_zpsqovkzhzs.jpg

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Room%20Colour%20Grading_zps6lz18j4i.jpg
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Room%20Original_zpsf5tvo0tj.jpg

The torture scene looks terrible with the filter IMO. The natural crisp/bright white look is far more menacing on screen for a villian's torture room.

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Torture%20Colour%20Grading_zpsdrewcfcr.jpg
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Torture%20Original_zps065i0lyo.jpg

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Agreed.

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I agree that the yellow filter looks okay in the outdoor scenes in Morocco, but I think it still looks better without it. I thought it made the location feel hotter, but now by comparison it look looks dulled. The indoor scenes look considerably better without the yellow. Based on knowing the true colours of the clothes, the blues are still dulled in the corrected version, which I don't mind. I could understand using the yellow filter for effect in certain locations, but over the whole film it just seems lazy.

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Stunning. I've been saying for almost two years now that the yellow tarnishes the film. The only section of the movie where it kinda works is in Rome. This just proves my point. Lol now I want a corrected copy. Thanks for sharing, JTM.
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It's absolutely at its worst in the PTS...

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JTM wrote:
The Mantis wrote:
JTM wrote:

Just saw this thread. I watched Spectre a few times in the cinema and once when the bluray came out. While I absolutely love the movie, throwing it on my home screen made me realise how much the filters really ruin certain scenes. So I took my copy straight to a good friend who works at a film studio in the editing dept and got him work a bit of colour grading magic and he handed me back a perfect yellow filterless copy! Haven't watched the original filtered version since. Can't stress enough just how much better the PTS and the scenes in Austria (Mr White, clinic and plane) look now!

Ayieeeeeeeeeeee.....I want to see!

Strung together a few gifs. Filterless versions on top, originals below.

Snow that's actually white really makes a difference  ajb007/lol

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Clinic%20Colour%20Grading_zpsibdkzsjc.gif
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Clinic%20Original_zps7ac7jspm.gif

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Mr%20White%20Colour%20Grading_zpsj7f9azpn.gif
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Mr%20White%20Original_zpstwthh96r.gif

Even without the filter the PTS still looks "warm" enough.

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20PTS%20Colour%20Grading_zpsmsntcbps.gif
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20PTS%20Original_zpse66idikj.gif

Looks great! I wish I could see the whole film this way.
Here's a video of the same issue in the Marvel movies. https://geektyrant.com/news/video-asks- … ible-color

Last edited by James Boldman (24th Jun 2017 14:07)

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James Boldman wrote:
JTM wrote:
The Mantis wrote:

Ayieeeeeeeeeeee.....I want to see!

Strung together a few gifs. Filterless versions on top, originals below.

Snow that's actually white really makes a difference  ajb007/lol

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Clinic%20Colour%20Grading_zpsibdkzsjc.gif
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Clinic%20Original_zps7ac7jspm.gif

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Mr%20White%20Colour%20Grading_zpsj7f9azpn.gif
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20Mr%20White%20Original_zpstwthh96r.gif

Even without the filter the PTS still looks "warm" enough.

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20PTS%20Colour%20Grading_zpsmsntcbps.gif
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh596/JordanMcGregor/Spectre%20PTS%20Original_zpse66idikj.gif

Looks great! I wish I could see the whole film this way.
Here's a video of the same issue in the Marvel movies. https://geektyrant.com/news/video-asks- … ible-color

That video talks about how the colours are dull, which is still a problem that JTM's corrected versions have. Spectre not only dulled the colours but gave them a yellow cast that not even the Marvel movies have. Some understand the dull colours to be more realistic, which does reflect how we see things indoors, but I see much more vivid colours outdoors. My flat right now looks kind of like Spectre, but that's because I have a beige window shade drawn that gives everything a yellow cast. If I have my lamps turned on, that makes everything a bit more yellow. But outside, the sun does not make things more yellow. Whites look white when we're outside.

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Matt S wrote:

It's nice to see that Bond has recovered from his hepatitis!

It really looks so much better without the yellow!

I feel that the filter works for the PTS, captures heat and dust etc, but works decidely against the Alpine scenes.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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zaphod99 wrote:
Matt S wrote:

It's nice to see that Bond has recovered from his hepatitis!

It really looks so much better without the yellow!

I feel that the filter works for the PTS, captures heat and dust etc, but works decidely against the Alpine scenes.

Mexico City actually isn't a hot place, so that's not a reason to use the yellow.

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Matt S wrote:
zaphod99 wrote:
Matt S wrote:

It's nice to see that Bond has recovered from his hepatitis!

It really looks so much better without the yellow!

I feel that the filter works for the PTS, captures heat and dust etc, but works decidely against the Alpine scenes.

Mexico City actually isn't a hot place, so that's not a reason to use the yellow.

In which case there is no justification for it.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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While making my SPECTRE review, I came across a B-Roll from the film which shows the environments (during filming) in their true colours.
It's on YouTube, check it out.

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Dirty Punker wrote:

While making my SPECTRE review, I came across a B-Roll from the film which shows the environments (during filming) in their true colours.
It's on YouTube, check it out.

That makes a tremendous difference. It has a more real look, and the locations look more scenic as well.

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chrisisall wrote:

It's absolutely at its worst in the PTS...

I agree. I watched the SP extras the other day and they were going though how they've gotten local Mexican artists and craftsmen to create the thousands of unique (and very colourful) costumes and accessories used in the PTS...it seems like such a waste, and kind of an insult, to then go and dull/washout the colours and throw a yellow filter over it all.

Matt S wrote:

That video talks about how the colours are dull, which is still a problem that JTM's corrected versions have.

I'll try and figure out how the guy enhanced the colour of the Guardians of the Galaxy scene in that linked youtube video and give it a shot on my Spectre copy.

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zaphod99 wrote:
Matt S wrote:

Mexico City actually isn't a hot place, so that's not a reason to use the yellow.

In which case there is no justification for it.

But. . .Mexico City has problems with air pollution, so you could say it makes a lot of sense.

Vox clamantis in deserto

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Hardyboy wrote:
zaphod99 wrote:
Matt S wrote:

Mexico City actually isn't a hot place, so that's not a reason to use the yellow.

In which case there is no justification for it.

But. . .Mexico City has problems with air pollution, so you could say it makes a lot of sense.

And we're back in the room ajb007/lol

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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Just compare...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/27/10/2CC340FB00000578-3247907-Over_1_500_extras_the_most_assembled_for_a_scene_in_any_Bond_fil-a-5_1443346701619.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/435/19295961053_4e73581841_h.jpg

Very interesting that Marvel video and the "black is not black anymore" theory...

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UGggghhh.

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STOP. Stop. stop.
Don't ruin SPECTRE for me!
Ahhhhhhhhhh.................................

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The recoloration of the Mexico and Tangiers/Morocco scenes look great but I prefer the Austria scenes as they are. The blue filter looks better and more cold in my opinion.

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BruceMurdock wrote:

The recoloration of the Mexico and Tangiers/Morocco scenes look great but I prefer the Austria scenes as they are. The blue filter looks better and more cold in my opinion.

The one you prefer is the corrected version.

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Miles Messervy wrote:
BruceMurdock wrote:

The recoloration of the Mexico and Tangiers/Morocco scenes look great but I prefer the Austria scenes as they are. The blue filter looks better and more cold in my opinion.

The one you prefer is the corrected version.

Ooops my mistake. I didn't even notice. Confusion on my part.  ajb007/lol

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I think modern films in general have a toned down colour palette with too much emphasis on the blue, green and orange parts of the colour spectrum. For some reason this is considered more realistic—even for fantasy films, oddly.

The Bond films were renowned for their colour palette which made the glamorous locations more glamorous.

Too much blue, green and orange makes everything look drab.

For more on modern film color this see:

http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/ … -stop.html

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The colours in the behind the scenes trailer for B25 look fantastic. They were bold and vibrant. I really hope the film looks the same.  ajb007/martini

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