the Problem with Moonraker is that...
there isn't a problem with Moonraker!
Its well-made, has a fantastic score, theme song, performance by roger moore, excellent set pieces and villainious perfomance by Michael Lonsdale.
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
the Problem with Moonraker is that...
there isn't a problem with Moonraker!
Its well-made, has a fantastic score, theme song, performance by roger moore, excellent set pieces and villainious perfomance by Michael Lonsdale.
All those and despite fleeting moments of over comedy, still has some pretty dark scenes, Jaws in the clown suit coming down the alley in rio and corrine being hunted down and mauled to death by dogs are possibly among the series more unnerving scenes especially with the score used for that dog chase scene. OK so the pigeon, Jaws trying to fly, dolly etc are unnecessary perhaps but they don't detract from the film for me in much the same way the drunk on the beach looking at his bottle when the lotus comes out of the sea in tswlm doesn't, in fact the look on bonds face when he drops the fish out of the car is pure class.
Your not alone, I guess that applies to me to as I don't agree with the op either.
You didn't do anything heartbroken_mr_drax and neither did anyone else. My comment was a stupid, derogatory and unnecessary one. It's one I regret posting and was completely out of line.
I sincerely apologise to anyone I may have offended and I will be more considerate in the future.
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Nicely done ogg007 {[]
Anyway I'm sure you know all ajb members have very high IQ levels and those that don't are quickly dispensed of..... Dropped into the anaconda pool.
That whole Drax space station set-up is crying out for a song and dance number, and the exchange about there being no seasons in space really does beg for a rendition of Springtime for Drax. I mean, they've got all those extras in, and all they do is float around. Of course, we could be looking at a Busby Berkeley number in zero gravity. All wasted, such opportunities never come their way again.
That whole Drax space station set-up is crying out for a song and dance number, and the exchange about there being no seasons in space really does beg for a rendition of Springtime for Drax. I mean, they've got all those extras in, and all they do is float around. Of course, we could be looking at a Busby Berkeley number in zero gravity. All wasted, such opportunities never come their way again.
I think Octopussy would work even better as a musical than MR
That whole Drax space station set-up is crying out for a song and dance number, and the exchange about there being no seasons in space really does beg for a rendition of Springtime for Drax. I mean, they've got all those extras in, and all they do is float around. Of course, we could be looking at a Busby Berkeley number in zero gravity. All wasted, such opportunities never come their way again.
Imagining Bond singing “Jeepers Creepers” to Drax...I thought I was all alone all those years )
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
Your not alone, I guess that applies to me to as I don't agree with the op either.
You didn't do anything heartbroken_mr_drax and neither did anyone else. My comment was a stupid, derogatory and unnecessary one. It's one I regret posting and was completely out of line.
I sincerely apologise to anyone I may have offended and I will be more considerate in the future.
That whole Drax space station set-up is crying out for a song and dance number, and the exchange about there being no seasons in space really does beg for a rendition of Springtime for Drax. I mean, they've got all those extras in, and all they do is float around. Of course, we could be looking at a Busby Berkeley number in zero gravity. All wasted, such opportunities never come their way again.
I think Octopussy would work even better as a musical than MR
the Problem with Moonraker is that...
there isn't a problem with Moonraker!
Its well-made, has a fantastic score, theme song, performance by roger moore, excellent set pieces and villainious perfomance by Michael Lonsdale.
All those and despite fleeting moments of over comedy, still has some pretty dark scenes, Jaws in the clown suit coming down the alley in rio and corrine being hunted down and mauled to death by dogs are possibly among the series more unnerving scenes especially with the score used for that dog chase scene. OK so the pigeon, Jaws trying to fly, dolly etc are unnecessary perhaps but they don't detract from the film for me in much the same way the drunk on the beach looking at his bottle when the lotus comes out of the sea in tswlm doesn't, in fact the look on bonds face when he drops the fish out of the car is pure class.
You're telling me! That Jaws clown scene in Rio freaked me out when I was younger. even now I still get the chills watching that scene.
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
the Problem with Moonraker is that...
there isn't a problem with Moonraker!
Its well-made, has a fantastic score, theme song, performance by roger moore, excellent set pieces and villainious perfomance by Michael Lonsdale.
All those and despite fleeting moments of over comedy, still has some pretty dark scenes, Jaws in the clown suit coming down the alley in rio and corrine being hunted down and mauled to death by dogs are possibly among the series more unnerving scenes especially with the score used for that dog chase scene. OK so the pigeon, Jaws trying to fly, dolly etc are unnecessary perhaps but they don't detract from the film for me in much the same way the drunk on the beach looking at his bottle when the lotus comes out of the sea in tswlm doesn't, in fact the look on bonds face when he drops the fish out of the car is pure class.
You're telling me! That Jaws clown scene in Rio freaked me out when I was younger. even now I still get the chills watching that scene.
This is part of my point! There are some creepy moments in MR. JAWS at the Mardi Gras and Corrine being killed by the dogs, as well as the overall creepiness of Drax's plot to kill the world and repopulate it with his super race. And the general spooky vibe of Drax himself. If they hadn't of made everything so much about the humour it could have been an unsettling and intense adventure.
All those and despite fleeting moments of over comedy, still has some pretty dark scenes, Jaws in the clown suit coming down the alley in rio and corrine being hunted down and mauled to death by dogs are possibly among the series more unnerving scenes especially with the score used for that dog chase scene. OK so the pigeon, Jaws trying to fly, dolly etc are unnecessary perhaps but they don't detract from the film for me in much the same way the drunk on the beach looking at his bottle when the lotus comes out of the sea in tswlm doesn't, in fact the look on bonds face when he drops the fish out of the car is pure class.
You're telling me! That Jaws clown scene in Rio freaked me out when I was younger. even now I still get the chills watching that scene.
This is part of my point! There are some creepy moments in MR. JAWS at the Mardi Gras and Corrine being killed by the dogs, as well as the overall creepiness of Drax's plot to kill the world and repopulate it with his super race. And the general spooky vibe of Drax himself. If they hadn't of made everything so much about the humour it could have been an unsettling and intense adventure.
Well these days movie studios are masters at creating films that has something fe everyone, for example lego Batman, my 3 year old loves it as does my 10 and 12 year old daughters and I thought it was hilarious, MR may have worked as an unsettling and intense adventure but that would only have appealed to certain fans and would no doubt back then have garnered a stricter age certificate, as it stands it has aspects for pretty much everyone to enjoy. When I first saw it laser guns and space were common place in entertainment so my generation probably never found the plot outlandish if we viewed it as kids.
Those movies were never meant to only please a group of diehards 40 years later.
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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As I said, MR was never meant, nor did it even have the potential to lean toward the serious. It was meant to be a romp from beginning to end. Even if the outlandish elements were removed or modified, what would be left is a travelogue with abruptly changing locales and just as abrupt character interaction and development...all meant to support a framework of light fantasy escapism. Put altogether, including the fantastical plot and the slapstick, unquestionably, categorically and most decisively, it all worked.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
There are some creepy moments in MR. JAWS at the Mardi Gras and Corrine being killed by the dogs, as well as the overall creepiness of Drax's plot to kill the world and repopulate it with his super race. And the general spooky vibe of Drax himself. If they hadn't of made everything so much about the humour it could have been an unsettling and intense adventure.
personally I like the glass factory fight ... maybe not so creepy as those other aspects but I think its one of the best fight scenes of all the Moore films, very high concept and very dangerous looking (though I don't think Roger got a single scratch, he never does)
Those movies were never meant to only please a group of diehards 40 years later.
What's your point Higgins? That because this film wasn't made with a future audience in mind that it is beyond criticism?
Plus,the only people that would get anything out of it now besides children are the diehards. You can like a film and still call out its faults. It's not like the film was perfect for 1979 standards and has suddenly become flawed with changing cinema trends. Just look at the reviews of the film when it came out as proof that it has always been viewed as flawed by many
There are some creepy moments in MR. JAWS at the Mardi Gras and Corrine being killed by the dogs, as well as the overall creepiness of Drax's plot to kill the world and repopulate it with his super race. And the general spooky vibe of Drax himself. If they hadn't of made everything so much about the humour it could have been an unsettling and intense adventure.
personally I like the glass factory fight ... maybe not so creepy as those other aspects but I think its one of the best fight scenes of all the Moore films, very high concept and very dangerous looking (though I don't think Roger got a single scratch, he never does)
I think the problem with most people is the plot. A French billionaire creating a master race in a space station and using poison globes to kill people who he deemed inferior. I liked the plot, because it was based on what happened in WW2. Hitler wanted the perfect race, so he gassed people who he thought was inferior. The space station is a Bond take on that.
I don't have a problem with the film, as Bond films are meant to be a form of escapism. The humour is a part of Roger's Bond as well
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there isn't a problem with Moonraker!
Its well-made, has a fantastic score, theme song, performance by roger moore, excellent set pieces and villainious perfomance by Michael Lonsdale.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Nicely done ogg007 {[]
Anyway I'm sure you know all ajb members have very high IQ levels and those that don't are quickly dispensed of..... Dropped into the anaconda pool.
Evidenlty you have never met Sir Miles and Asp9mm 8-)
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
That whole Drax space station set-up is crying out for a song and dance number, and the exchange about there being no seasons in space really does beg for a rendition of Springtime for Drax. I mean, they've got all those extras in, and all they do is float around. Of course, we could be looking at a Busby Berkeley number in zero gravity. All wasted, such opportunities never come their way again.
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I come with positivity, friendship and lightness and you've got to spoil it!
Not my fault that they are what they are
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I think Octopussy would work even better as a musical than MR
As our IQ is so high it cannot be measured :007)
What is this "IQ" everyone speaks of?
Imagining Bond singing “Jeepers Creepers” to Drax...I thought I was all alone all those years
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PTS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NVTFnmav4s
Main titles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_QWkvtCXI (start at 2 minutes in)
Auction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5k0Pwbe5dI
Bond sent to India: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVgpbnnhlDg
Bond outcheats Kamal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pJTnUuodmE
Bond meets Octopussy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x3ihfoiU24
Kamal & Gobinda on elephants, hunting 007: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66TLrby1R1g
Orlov explains his plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_WLw_0DFQQ
“There’s a bomb in that cannon!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE
You're telling me! That Jaws clown scene in Rio freaked me out when I was younger. even now I still get the chills watching that scene.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
This is part of my point! There are some creepy moments in MR. JAWS at the Mardi Gras and Corrine being killed by the dogs, as well as the overall creepiness of Drax's plot to kill the world and repopulate it with his super race. And the general spooky vibe of Drax himself. If they hadn't of made everything so much about the humour it could have been an unsettling and intense adventure.
1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Craig 5. Lazenby 6. Brosnan
Well these days movie studios are masters at creating films that has something fe everyone, for example lego Batman, my 3 year old loves it as does my 10 and 12 year old daughters and I thought it was hilarious, MR may have worked as an unsettling and intense adventure but that would only have appealed to certain fans and would no doubt back then have garnered a stricter age certificate, as it stands it has aspects for pretty much everyone to enjoy. When I first saw it laser guns and space were common place in entertainment so my generation probably never found the plot outlandish if we viewed it as kids.
Those movies were never meant to only please a group of diehards 40 years later.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
by the way, you said Mr. Jaws! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDNlSpKLEEo
that was the name of one of the first records I ever owned
What's your point Higgins? That because this film wasn't made with a future audience in mind that it is beyond criticism?
Plus,the only people that would get anything out of it now besides children are the diehards. You can like a film and still call out its faults. It's not like the film was perfect for 1979 standards and has suddenly become flawed with changing cinema trends. Just look at the reviews of the film when it came out as proof that it has always been viewed as flawed by many
I concur the glass factory fight is good one. Very atmospheric and edgy. And what a track
I don't have a problem with the film, as Bond films are meant to be a form of escapism. The humour is a part of Roger's Bond as well
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