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Topic: Changing of names between book and film

(This arose as a sidepoint in another thread).

Why is Fleming's character Fanshawe renamed Fanning in OP?
Why is Fleming's Sender renamed Saunders in TLD?
Why is Sharkey not Quarrel in LTK?

This isn't a quiz, I'd really like to know!

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Re: Changing of names between book and film

Masterton becomes Masterson in GF film too, though I gather this was a typo in one of the scripts by Maibaum or someone else.

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Barbel wrote:

(This arose as a sidepoint in another thread).

Why is Sharkey not Quarrel in LTK?

From what I remember, Quarrel was killed in Dr No.

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True, but Quarrel Jr appeared in LALD (thus sidestepping the issue that the books had been filmed the wrong way round) and  is a logical friend to James and Felix rather than some new random character.

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Quarrel  was in live and let die. For the movie they made him Quarrel junior, in some attempt at continuity I suppose,  though in the books quarrel isn't present in LTK,  but in the movie Sharkey is obviously Quarrel.

Just remembered Gardner did LTK after the film.  So MIlton Krest being in it makes no sense what so ever....

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Sharkey was named after a man Ian Fleming knew who shared that name I believe. I need to do more research on it, but at least there was a Fleming link there I suppose. Up to now I honestly never thought of the Quarrel connection, but I suppose they simply wanted a new character free from the Connery and Moore eras?

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Silhouette Man wrote:

Starkey was named after a man Ian Fleming knew who shared that name I believe. I need to do more research on it, but at least there was a Fleming link there I suppose. Up to now I honestly never thought of the Quarrel connection, but I suppose they simply wanted a new character free from the Connery and Moore eras?

But then include Felix?  LTK wasnt a reboot and using quarrel would have tied Dalton into the back story more. I suppose we may never know,  Maybe Fanshawe was a character in another movie around that time?

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Chriscoop wrote:

Maybe Fanshawe was a character in another movie around that time?

I suspect that the writers (Fraser, Maibaum, Wilson) simply weren't fond of that name.

It's funny because I don't even remember the character being named as such in Fleming's story. I always associated Fanshawe with Nathaniel Hawthorne's first novel.

Apparently Robert Vaughn played a character named Fanshaw on Coronation Street in 2012.

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Chriscoop wrote:
Silhouette Man wrote:

Starkey was named after a man Ian Fleming knew who shared that name I believe. I need to do more research on it, but at least there was a Fleming link there I suppose. Up to now I honestly never thought of the Quarrel connection, but I suppose they simply wanted a new character free from the Connery and Moore eras?

But then include Felix?  LTK wasnt a reboot and using quarrel would have tied Dalton into the back story more. I suppose we may never know,  Maybe Fanshawe was a character in another movie around that time?

Yes, as I was typing my reply to you I was thinking about the Leiter LALD connection. However, as I said above, at least Sharkey has a Fleming connection, so it's not all bad!

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Barbel wrote:

(This arose as a sidepoint in another thread).

Why is Fleming's character Fanshawe renamed Fanning in OP?
Why is Fleming's Sender renamed Saunders in TLD?
Why is Sharkey not Quarrel in LTK?

This isn't a quiz, I'd really like to know!

On Fanning in OP, I think the name change was warranted because it wasn't a straight character adaptation since he was an amalgamation of two other characters from the short story.  In Property of a Lady, Fanshawe was the strict, a**hole type tapped by M to give them background info on the auction item of question back in headquarters; the guy is even an a**hole to M.  The guy who does end up going with Bond to the auction was named Snowman, who was more friendly to Bond.  Though the filmmakers could have just used either name for the movie character, I think it actually shows they cared to maintain an integrity for the story despite their loose adaptation of it.

On Sender and Saunders, I think they could have gone for a straight transfer of the name Sender to the screen.  The only other explanation I can think of, is that with the Dalton bonds that were done "straighter" than before esp. the Moore films, they may have thought that the only Fleming element that needed to be kept at a minimum in light of their objective, were the kitschy names that either had sexual innuendos, plot function (like Odd Job) or character trait, "Sender" might alternatively been named Stickbottom.

On Sharkey=Quarrel, they might as well have named the many henchmen in the series post-GF, "Odd Job."  With that said, I wonder if we'll see "Quarrel" again?

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Yes, and Kenneth Snowman was a real man of course. A friend of Ian Fleming's and a jeweller. He died in 2002.

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Silhouette Man wrote:

Yes, and Kenneth Snowman was a real man of course. A friend of Ian Fleming's and a jeweller. He died in 2002.

Interesting to know!  Maybe that's why Fleming chose to use 2 distinct characters to represent the functional role of one jewelry expert, since he might have felt he needed to add interesting nuances to the plot (as simple as it already was) through the comical and disdainful character of Fanshaw (kind of like Sender in TLD) while not disparaging his real-life friend's character.

"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

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Quarrell appears in a completely different place in Fleming's LaLD: Bond meets him in Jamaica, a few chapters after Felix has been thrown to the sharks, Quarrell then trains Bond for his swim to Mr Big's island

what does Sharkey have in common with Quarrell? been a while since I saw the movie, or read Fleming's book, but I think Quarrell was a fisherman, was Sharkey also a fisherman?

someone upthread says why not also rename Felix: the plot would have lost much of its emotional weight if it had been some random new character thrown to the sharks, they even made sure to use an actual former Felix-actor
which makes me think, how much heavier Terri Hatchers scenes in TND would have been if instead they had used a genuine character (and actress) returning from a previous movie

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caractacus potts wrote:

what does Sharkey have in common with Quarrell? been a while since I saw the movie, or read Fleming's book, but I think Quarrell was a fisherman, was Sharkey also a fisherman?

Yes, both were fishermen; Sharkey gives Felix fishing lures for his wedding present.  Both charter out their boats and services, both are situated in the Caribbean, both have a subservient relationship with Bond, and lastly, both are allied with Felix (don't remember if a direct connection between Felix and Quarrell Jr. was actually made in LALD the movie).

"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

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Yes, Felix and Quarrel Jr are on a boat together with 007 in LALD... much as Felix and Quarrel Sr were in DN.

(And thanks for the Fanning/Fanshawe paragraph above- makes sense to me!)

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Barbel wrote:

Yes, Felix and Quarrel Jr are on a boat together with 007 in LALD... much as Felix and Quarrel Sr were in DN.

(And thanks for the Fanning/Fanshawe paragraph above- makes sense to me!)

You're welcome, and thank you too!  Must rewatch LALD soon!

"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

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Just my opinion,but I think the name of Taro,in Dr No was a second thought.Taro is the name given to a root vegetable,and Taro is the Pacific region name for it.The Jamaican equivalent is a root vegetable,almost identical,called Yam.So miss Taro,miss Yam.Which sounds the better?

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She has the same name in the novel, though.

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By the time Fleming wrote the book,he would have been familier with most things Jamaican.I might also have said,reads better.