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ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

"How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."

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It's been a while since I've read them, but I remember being most impressed with From Russia with love. (Great cover on my pan paperback with those movie-reel cut-outs down the edge of the cover. ajb007/cool ) On her Majestie's secret service, Goldfinger, Dr No, Casino Royale and Thunderball were also terrific.  The spy who loved me was my least fave. Well written, but Bond himself having a backseat weakened this one for me. The early ones were definitely better. Just started reading them all again in order. Currently halfway through Live and let die. Brilliant, and so ahead of it's time. 1954! Incredible. ajb007/cool Rich.

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Yeah, TSWLM just drags on for Pages at a Time. I'm glad Fleming ditched this Idea shortly after  ajb007/martini

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Moonraker
Doctor No
Thunderball
From Russia, With Love
Live and Let Die
You Only Live Twice
Casino Royale
Diamonds Are Forever
The Man With the Golden Gun
Goldfinger
The Spy Who Loved Me

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1. On her Majesty's secret service
2. From Russia with love
3. Dr No
4. Moonraker
5. Thunderball
6. Goldfinger

OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore

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I think Moonraker and OHMSS are my personal favourites - I always try to read one of them in the run-up to Christmas  ajb007/martini

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Dr. No was the first Bond novel I read. When it turned out the Three Blind Mice weren't really blind, that blew my twelve-year-old mind.

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I’ve recently been re-reading from the beginning. I’m currently up to Goldfinger. Three things that strike me are 1) Bond’s very subtle character arc is something for which Fleming doesn’t get enough credit, 2) Moonraker is absolute brilliance, and 3) Diamonds are Forever is well-researched but is not very much fun.

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1. Doctor No
2. You Only Live Twice
3. Casino Royale
4. From Russia With Love
5. Live and Let Die
6. Thunderball
7. Moonraker
8. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
9. Goldfinger
10. The Man With the Golden Gun
11. The Spy Who Loved Me
12. Diamonds are Forever

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It's been about a year since I first read them and would probably need to read them again to be able to confidently rank them.  I do know that there were a couple that I wasn't expecting that much out of which turned out to be my favorites:  Moonraker and Dr. No.  Some that I had high expectations for, like Goldfinger and FRWL I found disappointing.  The latter was still good but I've seen the movie so many times, and it followed the book somewhat closely, that I was just kind of bored reading it.  And maybe I'm an idiot but I thought the movie made some improvements such as SPECTRE playing the two sides against each other.  It may be the best written book in the series but it just so happened to not do much for me.  TSWLM was the one I was least looking forward to but it wasn't as bad as I feared.  Many years ago when I was a kid I bought a bunch of old Bond paperbacks at a garage sale and since that was my favorite Bond film back then I started with it.  I had no idea the films were often completely un-related and I got maybe halfway through the book before the boredom, confusion and lack of submarines caused me to give up on the book and Bond books for 20 years.

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I recently started rereading the novels (just finished Moonraker).

My favorites:

Casino Royale
Moonraker
Dr No
Thunderball

My least favorites:

Diamonds Are Forever
Goldfinger (the story that I think the film-makers improved on the Fleming source material)
The Spy Who Loved Me

All three of my least favorites are still worth reading.

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Unloved Season wrote:

It's been about a year since I first read them and would probably need to read them again to be able to confidently rank them.  I do know that there were a couple that I wasn't expecting that much out of which turned out to be my favorites:  Moonraker and Dr. No.  Some that I had high expectations for, like Goldfinger and FRWL I found disappointing.  The latter was still good but I've seen the movie so many times, and it followed the book somewhat closely, that I was just kind of bored reading it.  And maybe I'm an idiot but I thought the movie made some improvements such as SPECTRE playing the two sides against each other.  It may be the best written book in the series but it just so happened to not do much for me.  TSWLM was the one I was least looking forward to but it wasn't as bad as I feared.  Many years ago when I was a kid I bought a bunch of old Bond paperbacks at a garage sale and since that was my favorite Bond film back then I started with it.  I had no idea the films were often completely un-related and I got maybe halfway through the book before the boredom, confusion and lack of submarines caused me to give up on the book and Bond books for 20 years.

Moonraker, Dr No and Thunderball are three of my favorite Bond novels. I don't think it's a coincidence that each of those three started off as a screenplay.

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The Spy Who Loved Me is probably the weakest IMHO.

What comes to the others, I really like to think the individual novels a chapters in a one very long novel. The character arch of James Bond is very interesting and when the novels are viewed in a "big picture", the fatigue that Bond feels can really be felt towards the end of the series.

The biggest mistake, I feel, one can make with the novels is to try to look at them as individual stories and to read them out of order!

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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BBC doing a Moonraker adoptation on the Radio this weekend with Toby Stephens playing Bond again. I highly recommend listening to it, the previous ones were very enjoyable.

OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore

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Mr_Osato wrote:

BBC doing a Moonraker adoptation on the Radio this weekend with Toby Stephens playing Bond again. I highly recommend listening to it, the previous ones were very enjoyable.

Hello. Do you know what time this will be on the BBC? and on which radio staton.

I ham listening to audobooks of Ian Fleming James Bond books. I have not finished them yet but my favourite book to now has been Dr No and Live and Let Die.

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2.30-4pm, Joshua, on Radio 4.

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Barbel wrote:

2.30-4pm, Joshua, on Radio 4.

Thankyou.

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Tough to list them all in order, but From Russia With Love is for me the best novel.

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I did listen to the radio play today. I enjoyed it very much. It was different to the films of course but close to the Ian Fleming book. I do hope that more of these plays are to be made.

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Mr_Osato wrote:

BBC doing a Moonraker adoptation on the Radio this weekend with Toby Stephens playing Bond again. I highly recommend listening to it, the previous ones were very enjoyable.

Thanks for mentioning this!  Just last week I was checking to see if the BBC had done another Bond, as it's been over a year since their Thunderball adaptation.  But I couldn't find anything!  Seems like these radio plays just abruptly appear with little fanfare.  Every several months I re-listen to the dramas they've done, in the order of the novels, and I really enjoy them.  Doctor No is probably my favorite, if only because I like that book so much. 

I had a suspicion they'd do an early Bond next; I was really hoping for LALD.  I bet that one would make for a fun audio drama.  But I figured it would only be a matter of time until they did Moonraker (or Casino Royale), as fans rate it so highly.  At this rate it looks like they might actually do all of them -- I wonder if they'll remake YOLT, which received its own adaptation back in 1991 or so?  (That one's good, too, I think, though Bond's voice suddenly sounds "old" if you've grown familiar with Toby Stephens's performance!)

I haven't gotten a chance to listen to Moonraker but will soon -- you can usually find these online, for those like me who aren't in the UK.  As a matter of fact, Moonraker is already up on archive.org.  But you can also listen to it on the BBC site for the next 30 days or so.

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After rereading them:


Moonraker
On Her Majsesty's Secret Service
Thunderball
Casino Royale
Doctor No
From Russia, With Love
Live and Let Die
You Only Live Twice
Goldfinger
The Man With the Golden Gun
Diamond Are Forever
The Spy Who Loved Me