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Another classic has just come to me...

"Let them get ashore...and them kill'em!"  - Stromberg.

I mean, what was the guy thinking? ajb007/rolleyes

Let them get ashore?  Why?  If you're going to kill them then just get it done by your sea palace and then just throw their bodies in the ocean.  Why blast them to kingdom come with machine guns from a ruddy great helicopter?  Wouldn't that be somewhat more conspicuous?

ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

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Same with Han in Enter Dragon : Lee was totally trapped when those steel doors slammed down so why not just shoot him/gas him/drop some cobras on him right then and there ?

But noooo : he takes him outside where Bolo cuts his ropes around his wrists & and we know he's gonna go bananas against Han's guards once out of those ropes  ajb007/lol  ajb007/shifty

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"Let them get ashore...and them kill'em!"  - Stromberg.

I think he didn't want to kill them on his own property. As it would immediately link him to the crime ?
Giving him a little wriggle room to say " it weren't me gov "  ajb007/biggrin

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Thunderpussy wrote:

"Let them get ashore...and them kill'em!"  - Stromberg.

I think he didn't want to kill them on his own property. As it would immediately link him to the crime ?
Giving him a little wriggle room to say " it weren't me gov "  ajb007/biggrin

But then again, he does have a trap door...with a shark in his elevator if anyone comes knocking.
He also didn't care about dispatching his personal assistant.
Pusshy, your argument was poked and it popped.

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They were his employees, not government investigators.

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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I don't think that that was in her employment contract.
Side note: this could work in the political jokes thread for Trump.

"...I have the oddest feeling we will be meeting again sometime..."
-Roger Moore's James Bond. RIP.
I have a YouTube channel on all things Bond (amongst other things, coming soon™).
The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

"Let them get ashore...and them kill'em!"  - Stromberg.

I think he didn't want to kill them on his own property. As it would immediately link him to the crime ?
Giving him a little wriggle room to say " it weren't me gov "  ajb007/biggrin

Yes, that's what I always thought too. Stromberg's killing them, on neutral territory so to speak.

An interesting thread, by the way, petelangers.  ajb007/smile

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Ifr Bond was killed by the guy in the tree in MR , would that not appear suspicious...somehow I doubt "M" would believe a random hunting accident would've happened  ajb007/shifty

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Grindelwald wrote:

Ifr Bond was killed by the guy in the tree in MR , would that not appear suspicious...somehow I doubt "M" would believe a random hunting accident would've happened  ajb007/shifty

Not if Bond was hit by a bullet probably a 6.5mm  from what looks like a steyr bolt action rifle on a pheasant shoot!!

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Surely Wint and Kidd had the easiest chance to kill Bond. He was knocked out and all they had to do was put a bullet in his head, or if they didn't have a gun, smash his head in...ANYTHING! Instead they buried him alive with every chance of getting out of the situation. Thankfully DAF is full of daft plot holes so people tend to gloss over it.

Smiert Spionam

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I think the whole point of Wint and Kidd is that  they are fond of thinking up elaborate ways to kill thier targets. Unfortunately they get too cocky in thier methods and this leads to thier downfall.

Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

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The problem is the terrible execution of the scene. Had Bond struggled to escape and appeared terrified, Wint and Kidd's actions might not look so idiotic. As it is, he disables the welding machine in seconds and emerges from the pipeline – which in reality would be a terrifying, claustrophobic experience – unruffled and making a joke. Similarly, nearly getting burned alive in the crematorium is probably the most frightening thing ever to happen to Bond but doesn't seem to traumatise him in the slightest. Diamonds Are Forever is simply a very badly scripted and acted film.

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Were Wint and Kidd trying to kill Bond when they buried him? Maybe they were just tasked with moving him and were told not to kill him. Or maybe they thought he was already dead and thought they just had to move the body. In any case, what they were doing in that scene isn't entirely clear when it should have been.

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Wint and Kidd "try and try again" to find amusing ways to kill Bond, but by contrast they seem to settle for some straightforward way of bumping off Shady Tree. Shady is promptly assassinated in his own dressing room, albeit off camera.



In YOLT:
Bond: "If I'm to watch TV, may I smoke?"
Blofeld: "Yes, give him his cigarettes."

It's uncharacteristically generous of Pleasance's Blofeld to make this concession, especially if compared to Grant who in FRWL tells Bond there's "not a chance" he'll allow Bond his last request for a smoke (at least, not until Bond offers to pay for it). The world of YOLT is so gadget-laden that Blofeld, of all people, should know better than to allow Bond one of his own cigarettes.

In the final analysis, it's just one of those B-movie conventions of Bond films that the villain makes an error that will allow Bond a spectacular escape or a 'spanner-in-the-works' opportunity. The ego-fuelled attempts by villains to rig convoluted ways of killing Bond rather than using quick and simple methods are also pure melodrama - just part of the genre, especially with the movies where the fantasy elements are heightened generally. Lazily executed examples can still have the effect of taking an audience 'out' of the film, though, as my YOLT example does for me.

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