Bond 25 SPOILER news

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  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    Is Lynch wearing a wig? She had short hair at the press conference...
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  • Arbogast777Arbogast777 Minneapolis Posts: 252MI6 Agent
    Is Lynch wearing a wig? She had short hair at the press conference...

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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,757MI6 Agent
    Is Lynch wearing a wig? She had short hair at the press conference...

    Well, I don’t think her hair grew that fast, so I’d go with yes.
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    Is Lynch wearing a wig? She had short hair at the press conference...

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    Please no! :))
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    The pictures of Lashana Lynch in Bond's Jamaica house (https://twitter.com/007dossier/status/1127977554298724353) has really thrown my ideas of the sequence of events in Bond25 out of whack. I was expecting Bond to start in Jamaica, join Leiter on the mission and for Lashana to turn up later.

    One wonders now, how do they get back to Jamaica in the story after apparently wrapping in Jamaica after only two weeks (https://twitter.com/Bond25Film/status/1126854005722898432) filming; which would actually match a period of time in the film after the PTS and before the end of act one. The Jamaican hurricane season is from the start of June to the end of November, so it would seem that that is that for Jamaica. And now we know they're returning to Norway (for Austria?) from 5-14 June for the helicopter filming that we had been aware of before the frozen lake filming took place (https://twitter.com/Bond25Film/status/1128323681724391424). Only a week sounds like 2nd unit stunt work.

    Will we see them return to Norway repeatedly? If this shoot is 7 months long, like previous DC Bond movies, they have until the end of November, another 6 months 10 days, before they finish. I think when we get these location filming durations they are what EON has told local authorities and they are just giving themselves plenty of time when they make the permit applications, so I am not so bothered that they only spent two weeks in Jamaica, and not the full three. They also spent less time in Norway back in March than was originally reported in the local media.

    It's been reported that the Matera, Italy (for North Africa?) is from 17 August to 23 September, 39 days (https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/dates-for-shooting-in-italy-confirmed-by-local-press-190407), but I am guessing that that is longer than they will actually shoot. We know they are about to start interiors (Pinewood) filming. Is that really going to last 2 months and 28 days (89 days) until 17 August? And what filming will they do after 23 September, with potentially another eight weeks of filming left?

    Let's say Pinewood filming is from this weekend till the 5 June restart in Norway, that's two and a half weeks, which is longer than any filming at any location so far. Then a week back in Norway and then what from 15 June to 17 August? Two months, for more Pinewood filming? More Norway? Filming in London proper, not Pinewood? Then there is the two months after Italy. Four months of filming, more than half the film yet they have already covered all the known filming locations. It doesn't seem like enough.

    So far Bond25's locations seem to be, London, Jamaica (for Jamaica and Cuba or sub-Saharan Africa?), Norway (for Austria?), Matera (for Italy and North Africa?) six film locations, London, Jamaica, Cuba, Italy, North Africa, Austria. IMHO I don't think Norway is Norway in the film. That would be enough, six. Spectre had five and Skyfall, six or seven, if you include Bond's beach getaway after he is shot. Despite the Hurricane season, I can only imagine they will return to Jamaica.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    ...And now we know they're returning to Norway (for Austria?) from 5-14 June for the helicopter filming that we had been aware of before the frozen lake filming took place (https://twitter.com/Bond25Film/status/1128323681724391424)...

    Wow, that would be a fantastic location for a nice car chase!

    It would also be great for a plane or helicopter chase (could imagine swooping under that raised part of the road/bridge and throughout those mountains in the background) but after the aircraft stuff in QOS and SP they probably won't go for it again...and MI Fallout had that heli chase as well.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Indeed. They need a decent car chase after the poor one in Rome which cost the equivalent of some movies entire budget :)
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    edited May 2019
    I'm of course very happy to hear there will be more filming in Norway. The inclusion of the Atlantic Sea Road is certainly not a stand-in for Austria. While the Atlantic Sea Road is confirmed, Rauma is still just a rumour. Rauma (a municipality) sounds like a wonderful choise. It's also not very far from I live, about three hours by car.
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    Trollveggen: (nearly a thousand meters drop straight down, the longest straight cliffside in europe. Very popular among base-jumpers)

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    Cinematic landscape in general:

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    edited May 2019
    Filming at the Atlantic Sea Road will almost require filming from helicopters, it looks like the helicopters won't be onscreen. The helicopter company will use two helicopters, one for the camera and one for transport and backup. the filmig will include flying at high speeds and at low altitudes.


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  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,119MI6 Agent
    Those locations are all incredible and worthy of a Bond movie. Really hope they give Norway the credit it is due, rather than just have it doubling up for Austria :#

    I still long to see Bond return to some mountaineering, either in his spare time or part of a mission. Maybe next time..
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    It's still possible the scenes by the frozen lake is supposed to be Austria, but there's no way the Atlantic Sea Road will double for Austria.
  • writingsonthewallwritingsonthewall SpainPosts: 417MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I'm of course very happy to hear there will be more filming in Norway. The inclusion of the Atlantic Sea Road is certainly not a stand-in for Austria. While the Atlantic Sea Road is confirmed, Rauma is still just a rumour. Rauma (a municipality) sounds like a wonderful choise. It's also not very far from I live, about three hours by car.
    The area includes:


    Trollstigen:
    [img]https://i0.wp.com/husbilsemester.se/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Bergsvägen-Trollstigen-1.jpg?resize=450,299[/img]

    ?image=%2fdmsimgs%2f3E0919F4FA86C2BEA29A93E65555CB0694B971E3.jpg&action=Open_Graph_img


    Trollveggen: (nearly a thousand meters drop straight down, the longest straight cliffside in europe. Very popular among base-jumpers)

    Trollveggen.jpg

    the-troll-wall-in-romsdalen-7.jpg


    Cinematic landscape in general:

    [img]https://trollveggen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/©-Anunatak_MG_1747-1150x610.jpg[/img]


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    The train pic reminds me of the Skyfall PTS, though.
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  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    The Atlantic Sea Road looks predestined for a Bond picture. If anything, I hope they use it properly. Has a bit of a Licence to Kill vibe to it also.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    I hope the Atlantic Sea Road will be filmed in sunny weather or in a storm, but they'll have to take what weather they get.

    Video of the road in bad weather: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=atlanticstrasse&&view=detail&mid=C40D0BBDC1015E7B4B3CC40D0BBDC1015E7B4B3C&&FORM=VRDGAR
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I hope the Atlantic Sea Road will be filmed in sunny weather or in a storm, but they'll have to take what weather they get.

    Video of the road in bad weather: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=atlanticstrasse&&view=detail&mid=C40D0BBDC1015E7B4B3CC40D0BBDC1015E7B4B3C&&FORM=VRDGAR

    Could definitely imagine a car chase on there in poor weather with waves crashing over the road and the cars speeding though them. Probably nearly impossible to time that right on film though.

    https://youtu.be/tp9JZrCrrQY?t=101
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    It's possible to time, but then you need to have the cars, drivers and film teams on standby for weeks or even months. As long as the skies are fairly clear the Bond team has to shoot since they have littel more than a week. an interesting solution can be to shoot it at night, since summer nights are fairly bright.

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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Ah yes, an Atlantic road, that's not going to work for landlocked Austria... Local knowledge, always a good thing.

    I have questions about this Japanese info that has recently come to light.
    https://www.cinematoday.jp/news/N0108580
    https://twitter.com/JB007_news/status/1127396489565622273
    Apparently Fukunaga has more to say about Madeleine Swann, and there will be more Q/Bond interaction and his cats and it will be an independent story.

    My guess is, and why I thought Norway might be doubling for Austria later in the film, after the first act, is that it occurred to me that maybe there is something at the house/Scandinavian villa we see in Madeleine's flashback/dream that is needed to find or foil the villain. That way, we learn more about Madeleine. With 13 characters and Bond apparently going on a mission with Leiter and a kidnapped scientist etc, one wonders how you can shoe horn in a good character arc for Madeleine.

    I still think Q could be the kidnapped scientist and if Q is to have more interaction with Bond, then that would make sense. I can't really see how you could include Q's cats, maybe Moneypenny will be looking after them in the office?

    And after those new Jamaican Bond house pictures, is it actually Lashana, an MI6 agent, who persuades Bond to leave his cosy Jamaican existence to find his pal Q? Do they encounter Leiter and Magnussen's CIA agent during the mission, in Cuba?

    But, what does make me question the Japanese article (apart from the terrible Google translation) is the claim that the story is independent and new. With Madeleine Swann in it?! And we've seen pics of a (young?) 'Rami Malek' with a rifle used by Spectre in Spectre in the March Norway filming, so there is as much connective tissue between Spectre and Bond25 as there was between Casino and Quantum. I remain to be convinced anything in the Japanese article is true.
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,757MI6 Agent
    I never believed for a second that Norway was only going to be used for 10 minutes on screen (or whatever increment of time the the highly scientific cost/screentime calcualtions produced ;) )

    I’ve always wanted to visit Norway, and I’m excited it will probably get it’s due to this film.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    I think it's likely the frozen lake scene and the Atlantic sea Road are in separate parts of the movie and plot, simply because of the weather. Filming on the Atlantic Sea Road in June will only show a bit of snow on the distant mountain tops. Obvious, but it had to be said, I guess.
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    This is exactly the location I‘d want to see a car chase with Bond driving through the fountains of water whipping against and covering the road during an epic mega-storm...
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    Absolutely, filming a storm scene on that bit of road would be fantastic. But it will take wind canons, CGI and al sorts of trickery to create a storm. They're not gambling on a storm happening just when they're filming.
    I think the story about filming in Rauma is true. The frozen lake and the Atlantic Sea Road (ASR?) are not in the same sequence of scenes, and there has to be some scenes to go with what they shoot on the ASR. Rauma is in the same region as the road and has some of the best locations on the whole coastline. It makes sense.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    I never believed for a second that Norway was only going to be used for 10 minutes on screen (or whatever increment of time the the highly scientific cost/screentime calcualtions produced ;) )

    Indeed, highly scientific...

    It is true that interior dialogue scenes can be filmed more quickly than location stunt sequences, so it is a bit of an average.

    Quantum filmed for almost 5 months (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830515/locations#filming_dates) and has a 1hr 40min run time giving a weekly filmed scenes increment average of 5.8 minutes. That is how amazingly scientific it is.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    Jamaicans working in all areas of Bond film
    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/entertainment/20190518/jamaicans-working-all-areas-bond-film

    Stephan Chang of the Jamaica Promotions Corporation (JAMPRO) explained to The Gleaner that the workers on the movie set are basically grouped according to the requirements of the job. “There are several layers of jobs on set. Working on the actual production side are the lighting, sound and rigging crew. we have persons operating cameras, and there are also extras on set,” he outlined, debunking claims that Jamaicans have been given only menial jobs.

    While it was revealed that extras were needed for a party scene, Chang was unable to say if any big-name Jamaican actors had landed a role in the movie.
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Looks like Cary is back in Norway (maybe - location not quite clear) today for scouting work. On his insta
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    edited May 2019
    I have to admit I don't have the link since I'm not a part of the social media thing. Do you have a link?
    I'm not sure the real DC has been in Norway before, only the fake one :#
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I have to admit I don't have the link since I'm not a part of the socaial media thing. Do you have a link?
    I'm not sure the real DC has been in Norway before, only the fake one :#

    Hang on will find a link. Some debate wether Norway or Scotland. Maybe you can confirm!


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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    edited May 2019
    I can't say by looking at the landscape, but perhaps the weather is a clue. The text says "Saturday scouts". Most of the country didn't have rain today, and Rauma definately didn't. It looks like Scotland had more rain.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    So, apparently Bond and Paloma, Anna de Armes character, are having relations in Bond25.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7047405/Daniel-Craig-Ana-Armas-provided-intimacy-coordinator-James-Bond-25.html

    For me, it just adds more to the confusion about what role Madeleine will have. Fukunaga's comments about wanting to know more about Madeleine and Lea Seydoux's comments about her character not being a sex object in the film and it being an emotional role and story, I'm wondering if Madeleine will be seen briefly in flashback to be able incorporate that into an entirely different, kidnapped scientist story, but how do you explain the Norway filming with the Lea-look-a-likey in 1980s clothing?

    Or, are they going to portray Bond as a philanderer, who after a while, needs other women. Or are we going to get jokes about how he was only doing Paloma for the information? But, then, Paloma is supposedly a character created by Phoebe Waller-Bridge and she's supposed to be leading this #metoo charge in the Bond universe, so, I'm thoroughly confused about where this plot and its themes is heading.

    Is this why people are reporting a shitshow of a script, because the story is all over the place? What I can't understand is how they have so many characters, and how they can expect to do justice to their character arcs in 2h 20mins.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    But, then, Paloma is supposedly a character created by Phoebe Waller-Bridge

    Is she? Where's that been reported?
    Someone wrote:
    and she's supposed to be leading this #metoo charge in the Bond universe

    Oh, honestly.
  • canoe2canoe2 Posts: 2,007MI6 Agent
    This is pure speculation by me, but maybe Madeleine dies in the PTS and they try to do a OHMSS type thing. As far as I know Lea Seydoux wasn't filming in Jamaica. So maybe the PTS is about her death somewhere else, almost immediately after the end of SPECTRE. Then opening credits. And a "5 years later" Bond in Jamaica.

    Just because Seydoux was part of the big press event doesn't mean she'll have a big role. Monica Bellucci was in all the SP photos and she was on screen for what? 7 minutes total?
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