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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    ToTheRight wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    ToTheRight wrote:
    I suppose George Martin, Marvin Hamlisch and Bill Conti all contributed scores which could conceivably "shake up the franchise". To me each one sounds perfectly Bondian in their own way without attempting to copy Barry. Perhaps Romer will give us something similar.

    This is what I am also hoping for.

    I'm listening to Maniac's soundtrack now, and I am very impressed. Beasts of No Nation, however, was very disappointing.
    I'll have to give MANIAC a listen, then.

    I should say that Maniac does not have a Bond sound, but I think it is good music.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Romer is an inspired choice. Though his music sounds a bit like Dany Elfman mixed Jerry Goldsmith's late in his career, he won't be the aural wallpaper that was Newman.
  • JG007JG007 Manchester , United KingdomPosts: 276MI6 Agent
    I was HEAVY in the Arnold camp. Happy to go with something different and fresh. I’ll listen to the Maniac score and go from there. Of course the producers will have had a say and if they’re comfortable and happy to go with Cary’s choice then I’m willing to go with an open mind and something different. I’m just hoping we’ll get an Arnold return at some point as he’s a terrific Bond composer.

    Hoping for a score that you can instantly recognise with this particular film though with some strong Bond theme presence as that will no doubt win fans over, new beginnings -{
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Romer is an inspired choice. Though his music sounds a bit like Dany Elfman mixed Jerry Goldsmith's late in his career, he won't be the aural wallpaper that was Newman.

    What music of Romer's reminds you of Goldsmith? I'm listening to The Innocent Man right now and I can hear a bit of Goldsmith. Goldsmith is one of my all-time favourites, and I think I may even prefer him over any Bond composer!
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  • YouknowthenameYouknowthename Carver Media GroupPosts: 500MI6 Agent
    Hopefully something as good as Martin, Hamlich or Conti. All worked and are worthy. Not Serra or Kamen please.
    The GoldenEye soundtrack was quite suitable i.m.o. , even though Serra reused a fair amount of his Leon / The Professional (1994) score.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,737MI6 Agent
    Barry was the Bond sound. It was equal parts jazz, Max Steiner, and pop. Those scores were an integral part of the films, at worst memorable and at their best, masterpieces that were criminally snubbed by the Academy Awards. IMO, a meh score for a Bond film is a big failing...and IMO, Arnold would have a much better chance of getting it right but I do see the possibility of something good coming from Romer if he has a real appreciation and understanding of what works best in a Bond film.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Romer is an inspired choice. Though his music sounds a bit like Dany Elfman mixed Jerry Goldsmith's late in his career, he won't be the aural wallpaper that was Newman.

    What music of Romer's reminds you of Goldsmith? I'm listening to The Innocent Man right now and I can hear a bit of Goldsmith. Goldsmith is one of my all-time favourites, and I think I may even prefer him over any Bond composer!
    Late in his career, Goldsmith gets lighter and more whimsical, taking cues from a lot of African and South American motifs. Romer's "Annie and Owen" theme and other incidental music from "Maniac," for instance, reminds me of bit from Goldsmith's "The Ghost and the Darkness" and "Congo" soundtracks. No, they're not identical in melody and so forth, but there's a similarity in expression and emotional tone, somewhat like Alfred Newman's "How the West was Won" theme reminds me of Aaron Copeland.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I'm listening to "The Innocent Man" right now, and it doesn't sound anything like "Maniac" -- more like music to a BBC mystery production.
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    I'm listening to his Beasts of no nation soundtrack right now, it's definitely atmospheric! I love it
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Romer is an inspired choice. Though his music sounds a bit like Dany Elfman mixed Jerry Goldsmith's late in his career, he won't be the aural wallpaper that was Newman.

    What music of Romer's reminds you of Goldsmith? I'm listening to The Innocent Man right now and I can hear a bit of Goldsmith. Goldsmith is one of my all-time favourites, and I think I may even prefer him over any Bond composer!
    Late in his career, Goldsmith gets lighter and more whimsical, taking cues from a lot of African and South American motifs. Romer's "Annie and Owen" theme and other incidental music from "Maniac," for instance, reminds me of bit from Goldsmith's "The Ghost and the Darkness" and "Congo" soundtracks. No, they're not identical in melody and so forth, but there's a similarity in expression and emotional tone, somewhat like Alfred Newman's "How the West was Won" theme reminds me of Aaron Copeland.

    Thanks. I hear what you're saying. I think Goldsmith would have had another melodic layer on top of "Annie and Owen", but the feel is there. It sets a good foundation, though composers like Goldsmith usually used a melodic line throughout most of the music, while that is less fashionable today. Both Goldsmith and Newman took a lot from Copland. I think for the modern composers, Philip Glass is one of the biggest inspirations, though I never get the same feeling from the film composers.
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  • JG007JG007 Manchester , United KingdomPosts: 276MI6 Agent
    His track in Maniac titled “if someone tries to chop it down” is a good piece. Nice offbeats and tone to it, after listening to Maniac’s score I’m excited to see what he brings, it’ll be different and unique to B25 hopefully. I’m just hoping he utilises the Bond theme in the score a bit more than Newman did.

    Should be a positive addition I think -{
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    JG007 wrote:
    His track in Maniac titled “if someone tries to chop it down” is a good piece. Nice offbeats and tone to it, after listening to Maniac’s score I’m excited to see what he brings, it’ll be different and unique to B25 hopefully. I’m just hoping he utilises the Bond theme in the score a bit more than Newman did.

    Should be a positive addition I think -{
    I'm looking forward to how he puts his own spin on the theme much like Newman and the previous composers have done.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    What music of Romer's reminds you of Goldsmith? I'm listening to The Innocent Man right now and I can hear a bit of Goldsmith. Goldsmith is one of my all-time favourites, and I think I may even prefer him over any Bond composer!
    Late in his career, Goldsmith gets lighter and more whimsical, taking cues from a lot of African and South American motifs. Romer's "Annie and Owen" theme and other incidental music from "Maniac," for instance, reminds me of bit from Goldsmith's "The Ghost and the Darkness" and "Congo" soundtracks. No, they're not identical in melody and so forth, but there's a similarity in expression and emotional tone, somewhat like Alfred Newman's "How the West was Won" theme reminds me of Aaron Copeland.

    Thanks. I hear what you're saying. I think Goldsmith would have had another melodic layer on top of "Annie and Owen", but the feel is there. It sets a good foundation, though composers like Goldsmith usually used a melodic line throughout most of the music, while that is less fashionable today. Both Goldsmith and Newman took a lot from Copland. I think for the modern composers, Philip Glass is one of the biggest inspirations, though I never get the same feeling from the film composers.
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  • John Francis KennedyJohn Francis Kennedy South lanarkshire, ScotlandPosts: 88MI6 Agent
    Re composers and bond, quirky little observation..

    Beethoven’s biggest ‘hit’ ..the 5th symphony, picture the opening two notes (or chords)

    Dat dat dat.. ..daaaaaaaahh

    Ok? Now picture it as two long notes ..Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. daaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh

    Familiar? :D
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Another location has apparently been confirmed.

    Apparently Gravina in Puglia is now a confirmed location
    https://www.tgtourism.tv/2019/07/james-bond-a-gravina-in-puglia-81348/
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Lashana Lynch is still filming Bond25 according to the latest image on her Twitter and Instagram accounts.
    https://twitter.com/LashanaLynch/status/1147163382174367744
    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzii4WGgmNt/
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent
    Grace Jones apparently had a cameo but quit spontaneously after reading her lines https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/grace-jones-james-bond-25-quit-cameo
    if she was in the film, was she supposed to be Mayday?
    Mayday's dead in a flooded mineshaft of course, but that's the Moore-verse, so maybe there was going to also be a Mayday in the Craig-verse, just like Craig has his own Blofeld?

    she could have been an allnew character of course, like Maud Adams played two characters in two films, but she's a little more recognisable than Maud Adams ... I think she would have been percieved as Mayday whatever they named her character
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Think so far the whole Grace Jones cameo is all just media speculation

    Ive even read she was doing the Bond 25 theme song
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Think so far the whole Grace Jones cameo is all just media speculation

    Ive even read she was doing the Bond 25 theme song

    I agree. I think that the whole story was made up. They made up a silly story about her being in Bond 25 and made up another silly story about why she's not going to be in the film.
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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,737MI6 Agent
    Grace Jones as far I'm concerned is a completely inconsequential non-story. Even if it is true and she had a small cameo in Bond 25 and walked off the set , it was just another cheap pathetic attempt at self promotion on her part (Jones has always been a smart self promoter and she figured the Tabs would be all over it). Sure, it might have been a neat little gimmick to have the exotic and strangely quirky Jones, a native of Jamaica and Bond alumni do a cameo but beyond that, who cares?
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Oh the Jamaican thing didn't occur to me; I guess it makes a little more sense now.
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    part (Jones has always been a smart self promoter and she figured the Tabs would be all over it). Sure, it might have been a neat little gimmick t

    I don't see how she could've come up with it.
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    edited July 2019
    Grace Jones apparently had a cameo but quit spontaneously after reading her lines https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/grace-jones-james-bond-25-quit-cameo
    if she was in the film, was she supposed to be Mayday?
    Mayday's dead in a flooded mineshaft of course, but that's the Moore-verse, so maybe there was going to also be a Mayday in the Craig-verse, just like Craig has his own Blofeld?

    she could have been an allnew character of course, like Maud Adams played two characters in two films, but she's a little more recognisable than Maud Adams ... I think she would have been percieved as Mayday whatever they named her character


    I suppose it's possible. She actually made it out of the mineshaft before the "Thermos" detonator went off, and unless she disintegrated they never showed a body, so maybe she's just horribly burned.
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Daniel Kleinnman is back to do the title sequence.
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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Always good news!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    Good :007)

    What I really want to know now is the composer, title song artist and of course the title.
  • TennysonTennyson A View to a KillPosts: 606MI6 Agent
    Composer has already been confirmed as Dan Romer...
    Number24 wrote:
    Good :007)

    What I really want to know now is the composer, title song artist and of course the title.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Apparently there is a Bond25 press conference tomorrow. Seems a bit early for August filming?
    https://www.materalife.it/notizie/james-bond-ciak-a-matera-anche-la-prima-scena-del-nuovo-film/

    "Friday 12 July press conference to present the organizational aspects for production"

    It's not clear if this is simply local officials informing people of what is going to happen, what roads will be closed etc. or if anyone from EON or Universal Studios will be there.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    "Friday 12 July press conference to present the organizational aspects for production"

    It's not clear if this is simply local officials informing people of what is going to happen, what roads will be closed etc. or if anyone from EON or Universal Studios will be there.

    I would say the 'organizational aspects for production' bit makes that fairly clear! :)
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