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Cant believe Bond fell for the map trick , I never wouldve knelt down next to him......I wouldve suspected a trick by Grant right away , then again Bond had been drinking and for a second was unaware what Grant was up to.........

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Grindelwald wrote:

Cant believe Bond fell for the map trick , I never wouldve knelt down next to him......I wouldve suspected a trick by Grant right away , then again Bond had been drinking and for a second was unaware what Grant was up to.........

Especially when he had seen Grant put a drug into Tatiana's drink. Would Bond have accepted Grant's explanation so easily and not been on alert until he was sure?

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I always wondered why Bond was so sketchy of Grant as well. I guess it turned out for good reason. It's my favorite Bond scene anyways.

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It was not the first time Bond has been suspicious of someone, nor the last.  He certainly was so with the driver from Governor's House in Dr. No, for example.

I think what gets lost in that From Russia with Love scene is the immediate class distinction.  Grant is not a svelte, dignified British gentleman but a hulking brute, His walk, his bearing, his expression all betray a quality of lower class lack of refinement barely concealed in a suit.  Contrast Grant with the real Captain Nash, who is more fitting of the type.  Grant is more like an American bodybuilder who kicks sand in the face of the 99 pound weakling.  Perhaps it is not as obvious because Connery himself is more brutish than, say, a David Niven or Cary Grant type.  But Bond is disdainful toward Nash all along, and Bond's instincts are true.

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The book has the advantage that we can read what Bond is thinking, and he's completely fooled. He thinks Nash is "probably on the stupid side" and may have "shell-shock perhaps, or schizophrenia" and is clumsy and embarrassed and a "queer fish" *. He doesn't notice Nash slipping chloral hydrate into Tatania's drink and he hasn't any doubt that Nash had been sent by M.

* a dated expression having nothing to do with sexuality

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At least that makes "Nash" appear a lot more capable than what he was on screen.

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Gassy Man wrote:

It was not the first time Bond has been suspicious of someone, nor the last.  He certainly was so with the driver from Governor's House in Dr. No, for example.

I think what gets lost in that From Russia with Love scene is the immediate class distinction.  Grant is not a svelte, dignified British gentleman but a hulking brute, His walk, his bearing, his expression all betray a quality of lower class lack of refinement barely concealed in a suit.  Contrast Grant with the real Captain Nash, who is more fitting of the type.  Grant is more like an American bodybuilder who kicks sand in the face of the 99 pound weakling.  Perhaps it is not as obvious because Connery himself is more brutish than, say, a David Niven or Cary Grant type.  But Bond is disdainful toward Nash all along, and Bond's instincts are true.

Spot on. I can smell the class distintion. For the record Niven would have been too much the gentleman in my view. Connery for me hits the righ note. Iron fist, velvet glove.

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The Orient Express section of FRWL is probably my favourite in the whole film, and the interaction between Bond and Grant is really interesting.

I like how Bond has to figure out whether he can trust 'Nash', and the various ways in which he questions him, observes his mannerisms and choices, and also searches his briefcase are all examples of Bond being a good spy. This sort of diligence in his job are not always characteristics that Bond shows on screen. The fact that there is the snobbish aspect of Bond disapproving of Grant drinking red wine with fish is a nice addition as well.