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The graphic design is very contemporary and now

The font is the same as that used on The Love Boat...a TV show from the 1970s. Just as the title is the same as that of a Columbo episode from 1992. God knows how contemporary the rest of the film will be!

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emtiem wrote:

The graphic design is very contemporary and now

The font is the same as that used on The Love Boat...a TV show from the 1970s. Just as the title is the same as that of a Columbo episode from 1992. God knows how contemporary the rest of the film will be!

Go further back. The typeface is based on something from the 1920s and the title is from a Terence Young/Cubby Broccoli film from 1958.

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Agreed! This title screams Bond. There will be no mistaking it for something else. It's quite nostalgic actually.

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Well that was a surprise! Title release on some random Tuesday—they really caught us off guard!

Anyway, I'm quite a fan of it! Easily recognisable as a Bond type title which is great and doesn't give anything away about the film itself.

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The font they used is Futura Black if anyone is wondering!

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the title is from a Terence Young/Cubby Broccoli film from 1958.

I'm guessing if Bond 26 will be titled Zarak then.

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Both the title and the font will make NTTD stand out in the crowd of action movies next year. Good or bad, most people will think Bond when they hear No Time to Die. MI, Fast and Furious and other action francises don't use titles like that.
But among the Bond titles it'll rank as an average or even a little below average title, unlike the font that I think is one of the better ones.

The graphic design is very contemporary and now, and I can't think of many other films that look that stylish with their typography.

Is the font/design really very conteporary? I'm no expert, but to me it looks retro. Just to be clear, I think retro is a a good thing in this case. Can you give examples of contemporary media (films, TV, bands, comersials etc.) that uses a font like that one?

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Both the title and the font will make NTTD stand out in the crowd of action movies next year. Good or bad, most people will think Bond when they hear No Time to Die. MI, Fast and Furious and other action francises don't use titles like that.
But among the Bond titles it'll rank as an average or even a little below average title, unlike the font that I think is one of the better ones.

The graphic design is very contemporary and now, and I can't think of many other films that look that stylish with their typography.

Is that graphic design really that contemporary? It looks retro to me.

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I think the title is awful. In terms of originality - or lack of! - I'd rate it the worst title of the franchise. It's like Eon are taking the piss coming up with such a generic 'die' title. Here are some alternative titles. Perhaps Eon will consider them for Bond 26?  ajb007/biggrin

TIME FOR THE FRANCHISE TO DIE

DIE, BOND, DIE!

DIE ANOTHER DAY - PART TWO

DIE PIE SKY

ajb007/biggrin

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For the first minute or so I didn't like it because it sounds generic.

Didn't take long for me to come around. I love it now. Yes, it has 'die' in the title. But I like that it has multiple meanings:
- This is no time to die! - I have a mission to complete!
- I have no time to die! - I'm busy with stuff!
- Dr No time to die?
- There is no good time to die..

Ultimately the film will be judged on it's quality rather than it's title. I'm sure if the spy who loved me was awful we'd hate that title, and if die another day was great we'd love that one.

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emtiem wrote:
Number24 wrote:

Both the title and the font will make NTTD stand out in the crowd of action movies next year. Good or bad, most people will think Bond when they hear No Time to Die. MI, Fast and Furious and other action francises don't use titles like that.
But among the Bond titles it'll rank as an average or even a little below average title, unlike the font that I think is one of the better ones.

The graphic design is very contemporary and now, and I can't think of many other films that look that stylish with their typography.

Is that graphic design really that contemporary? It looks retro to me.

It can be contemporary if that retro look is fashionable.

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For the first minute or so I didn't like it because it sounds generic.

Didn't take long for me to come around. I love it now. Yes, it has 'die' in the title. But I like that it has multiple meanings:
- This is no time to die! - I have a mission to complete!
- I have no time to die! - I'm busy with stuff!
- Dr No time to die?
- There is no good time to die..

Ultimately the film will be judged on it's quality rather than it's title. I'm sure if the spy who loved me was awful we'd hate that title, and if die another day was great we'd love that one.

Ian Fleming wrote one Bond novel with the word 'die' included: LIVE AND LET DIE. He never referenced the word again.  LIVE AND LET DIE was a clever twist on the adage 'Live and Let Live'. Ian Fleming was clever and imaginative. The Bond producers (Babs and MG), however, are not clever nor imaginative. They have rehashed the word 'die' three times.

TOMORROW NEVER DIES
DIE ANOTHER DAY
NO TIME TO DIE

Proof they have zero imagination. I don't know if the writers come up with the titles or it's all down to the producers but it's the same lack of imagination. Zero desire to do anything different. I suppose we should be grateful we had a title like SKYFALL. That sounded a bit Fleming and it was an integral part of the plot - the family home of Bond. But NO TIME TO DIE is so generic and proof Eon are creatively bankrupt. Let's hope the film has a modicum of freshness or if not freshness, some old stuff done in a different way. Given the generic title, I have my doubts.

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005 wrote:

For the first minute or so I didn't like it because it sounds generic.

Didn't take long for me to come around. I love it now. Yes, it has 'die' in the title. But I like that it has multiple meanings:
- This is no time to die! - I have a mission to complete!
- I have no time to die! - I'm busy with stuff!
- Dr No time to die?
- There is no good time to die..

Ultimately the film will be judged on it's quality rather than it's title. I'm sure if the spy who loved me was awful we'd hate that title, and if die another day was great we'd love that one.

Ian Fleming wrote one Bond novel with the word 'die' included: LIVE AND LET DIE. He never referenced the word again.  LIVE AND LET DIE was a clever twist on the adage 'Live and Let Live'. Ian Fleming was clever and imaginative. The Bond producers (Babs and MG), however, are not clever nor imaginative. They have rehashed the word 'die' three times.

TOMORROW NEVER DIES
DIE ANOTHER DAY
NO TIME TO DIE

Proof they have zero imagination. I don't know if the writers come up with the titles or it's all down to the producers but it's the same lack of imagination. Zero desire to do anything different. I suppose we should be grateful we had a title like SKYFALL. That sounded a bit Fleming and it was an integral part of the plot - the family home of Bond. But NO TIME TO DIE is so generic and proof Eon are creatively bankrupt. Let's hope the film has a modicum of freshness or if not freshness, some old stuff done in a different way. Given the generic title, I have my doubts.

It's true that they have no imagination when it comes to this title. It's not only similar to other Bond titles, it's a title that the Broccoli family previously gave one of their films. But it sounds like a Bond title, and that counts for a lot. Even though Quantum of Solace was an original Fleming title, it didn't have the kind of Bond title that people expected, and I think that hurt the film. I had the new logo on my screen at work, and someone came up to me and said, "So that's the new Bond film?" She knew right away it was a Bond film from that title, and she didn't even notice the 007 logo in it. Being that it was my screen may have given away that I was looking at something Bond related, but she liked the title because it sounded like a Bond title. Sometimes generic helps.

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I like the title and the way it sounds and hope it’s actually relevant to the plot, just like TND  ajb007/lol  ...and it’s not just a rehash of “die,” it states it with a negative modifier to negate death, as in TND, by postponing it, as in DAD.   Hmmmm?

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Has anyone managed to identify the suit, shoes, socks and underpants he is wearing yet? I want to buy them all  ajb007/lol

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Has anyone managed to identify the suit, shoes, socks and underpants he is wearing yet? I want to buy them all  ajb007/lol

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For the first minute or so I didn't like it because it sounds generic.

Didn't take long for me to come around. I love it now. Yes, it has 'die' in the title. But I like that it has multiple meanings:
- This is no time to die! - I have a mission to complete!
- I have no time to die! - I'm busy with stuff!
- Dr No time to die?
- There is no good time to die..

Ultimately the film will be judged on it's quality rather than it's title. I'm sure if the spy who loved me was awful we'd hate that title, and if die another day was great we'd love that one.

Ian Fleming wrote one Bond novel with the word 'die' included: LIVE AND LET DIE. He never referenced the word again.  LIVE AND LET DIE was a clever twist on the adage 'Live and Let Live'. Ian Fleming was clever and imaginative. The Bond producers (Babs and MG), however, are not clever nor imaginative. They have rehashed the word 'die' three times.

TOMORROW NEVER DIES
DIE ANOTHER DAY
NO TIME TO DIE

Proof they have zero imagination. I don't know if the writers come up with the titles or it's all down to the producers but it's the same lack of imagination. Zero desire to do anything different. I suppose we should be grateful we had a title like SKYFALL. That sounded a bit Fleming and it was an integral part of the plot - the family home of Bond. But NO TIME TO DIE is so generic and proof Eon are creatively bankrupt. Let's hope the film has a modicum of freshness or if not freshness, some old stuff done in a different way. Given the generic title, I have my doubts.

You confuse proof with evidence. The title proves nothing.

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The font they used is Futura Black if anyone is wondering!

https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/futura-black/

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So I talked to two Non Bond films about the title.
They both liked it.
"It's Classic Bond."
Another said.
"The title is OK but the art design is ace."

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I think the title is awful. In terms of originality - or lack of! - I'd rate it the worst title of the franchise. It's like Eon are taking the piss coming up with such a generic 'die' title. Here are some alternative titles. Perhaps Eon will consider them for Bond 26?  ajb007/biggrin

TIME FOR THE FRANCHISE TO DIE

DIE, BOND, DIE!

DIE ANOTHER DAY - PART TWO

DIE PIE SKY

ajb007/biggrin

Totally agree, as you mentioned this is the 4th time the word 'DIE' has been used.  Personally I would have liked 'Shaken, not Stirred' but each to their own.

Who knows what Bond 26 will be called?  I'll speculate with 'DIE A REAR'.  (I'll get my coat)

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My reaction to the title has been pretty positive.

Firstly, I'm glad that the name Bond 25 can now be retired.

Secondly, although it is somewhat generic, it sounds Bondish, almost like a Fleming chapter title.

Thirdly, I like the chunky retro font style a lot. It's a nice break from the typefaces that have been used for the Craig films so far. I suspect that it will carry over to the movie posters. In fact I will be a little disappointed if it doesn't.

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Couldn't give a stuff about the Font. Ithink its a symptom of how starved of news we are that its had so much discussion here.

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The graphic design is very contemporary and now

The font is the same as that used on The Love Boat...a TV show from the 1970s. Just as the title is the same as that of a Columbo episode from 1992. God knows how contemporary the rest of the film will be!

A lot of fonts are very old; I think this one is from the 20s. It’s the choice and how it’s used that is a big part of design.

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the title is from a Terence Young/Cubby Broccoli film from 1958.

I'm guessing if Bond 26 will be titled Zarak then.

Haven’t you done that gag already? I swear I’ve read it before, which is ironic.

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I think the title is awful. In terms of originality - or lack of! - I'd rate it the worst title of the franchise. It's like Eon are taking the piss coming up with such a generic 'die' title. Here are some alternative titles. Perhaps Eon will consider them for Bond 26?  ajb007/biggrin

TIME FOR THE FRANCHISE TO DIE

DIE, BOND, DIE!

DIE ANOTHER DAY - PART TWO

DIE PIE SKY

ajb007/biggrin

Totally agree, as you mentioned this is the 4th time the word 'DIE' has been used.  Personally I would have liked 'Shaken, not Stirred' but each to their own.

Who knows what Bond 26 will be called?  I'll speculate with 'DIE A REAR'.  (I'll get my coat)

I'm really not sure what the issue you blokes have with "Die" being used again for NTTD—it's only the fourth time it's in a title...out of 25 films...16 percent.

Just be glad each title doesn't start with "James Bond: ..." like so many other series are now stuck with. Bond films don't need to mention Bond in the title, they're in a unique position where certain words/phrasing used have the ability to more or less shout out to the public that "this is the title of a James Bond film"—one of those words being "die", something that I definitely don't think is of place in a series where the main character is essentially an assassin. I'm actually quite surprised it hasn't been used in more of the titles TBH.

Anyway, whatever the title ended up being, we would have had people arguing, that's just the nature of the beast. I like it and it's made me even more excited for some additional info though some set pics or the teaser trailer.

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