What Handgun Will Bond Use in Bond 25? [Potential Spoilers]

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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    I like the original because of the mag release, triggerguard and slightly slimmer profile.
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,757MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    I like the original because of the mag release, triggerguard and slightly slimmer profile.

    Yes, they definitely Americanized the gun in terms of the mag release. But being American, it does feel more natural to me. That said, I would have rather them kept the original style.
  • KladdaghKladdagh FrancePosts: 117MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I agree. Bond needs a distinctive and stylish gun. The quality is secondary.
    I am not agree with you ...
    The quality of a firearm is the most important ...
    Remember the case with bond's Beretta in Doctor No ... Jammed ...
    The style, yes, but not over quality ...
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    edited October 2019
    For a real secret agent (and any other person who rely on their handgun to stay alive) the reliability of the gun is priority number one. But Bond is a fictional person and most of the audience don't know or care how many rounds jam out of 10.000 fired with that particular gun. What many of them care about is if it's recognizable and stylish.

    For this reason I think the HK VP9 would be a bad choise. it looks pretty much like many other modern handguns. Even if 007 used a VP9 for several more films most members of the public couldn't say if the gun belongs to Bond, Ethan Hunt or Black Widow if they saw a photo of it.
    I think Bond should keep the Walther PPK as his consealed carry gun and use a mix of service pistols in obvious combat situations. VP9 is one of many handguns that works fine in that role.
    If he did switch to a never model I think the Walther PPS M2 or the Beretta PX4 Storm Compact are good candidates. Bond has a history with both companies, they are good for consealed carry and they look distinctive and stylish (especially the Beretta)

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    Beretta
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  • KladdaghKladdagh FrancePosts: 117MI6 Agent
    Now we are in agreement ...
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  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    I like the original because of the mag release, triggerguard and slightly slimmer profile.

    Yes, they definitely Americanized the gun in terms of the mag release. But being American, it does feel more natural to me. That said, I would have rather them kept the original style.

    This is something of an enigma to me, so if any of you know something about this, please chime in: Why is the push button mag release called "American" when it was first popularized by Georg Luger in model 1900 Pistole Parabellum? Am I missing an earlier American firearm that had this feature that was subsequently copied by Mr Luger.
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    Because it was adopted by the US and used on all autos. Whereas Europe also adopted the heel release that they used predominantly. Later replaced by the paddle.

    The US prefer the push button over the paddle and heel methods of release.
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  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Because it was adopted by the US and used on all autos. Whereas Europe also adopted the heel release that they used predominantly. Later replaced by the paddle.

    The US prefer the push button over the paddle and heel methods of release.

    But...but...but Colt didn't add this feature to their pistols until the model 1909 prototype, Savage never did, S&W didn't add it to their guns until Model 41 in 1947, Ruger, well they manufactured pistols well to the 2000's with heel release. Yes there were plenty European semi auto pistols with heel releases, but then again there weren't many American semi auto manufacturers per se. When the US semi auto production really kicked off with the dawn of the wonder nine, even Europeans had switched mostly to button release. Right?
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    Yeah :D
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  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Yeah :D
    :)) :)) :))
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  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    Ash carries a Beretta M9A3 in desert tan/black. Primo carries an AKS-74U with typical triangular side-folder and FAB Defense "Krinkov" Quad Rail Handguard System and fore grip. It is the same rifle used by Bond in Cuba, and presumably, taken from Primo. Also, there's a Heckler & Koch VP9 in Primo's leg holster.

    Bonus detail for you: Nomi carries a Glock 17 with extended magazine...with 'add ons'.
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  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,227MI6 Agent
    IMFDB just updated the No Time To Die page, it appears in addition to the Walther PPK and Sig Sauer P226, James Bond will also use a Browning Hi Power (kept in his Jamaican home) along with a Beretta ARX-160 assault' rife, a MK 18 Mod 0 rifle (a shorter version of the famed Colt M4 used military special forces personnel), and an AKS74U rifle (previously used by Pierce Brosnan in Goldeneye and the beginning of Die Another Day). Here is a link: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/No_Time_to_Die
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,736MI6 Agent
    PPK 7.65mm wrote:
    IMFDB just updated the No Time To Die page, it appears in addition to the Walther PPK and Sig Sauer P226, James Bond will also use a Browning Hi Power (kept in his Jamaican home) along with a Beretta ARX-160 assault' rife, a MK 18 Mod 0 rifle (a shorter version of the famed Colt M4 used military special forces personnel), and an AKS74U rifle (previously used by Pierce Brosnan in Goldeneye and the beginning of Die Another Day). Here is a link: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/No_Time_to_Die

    I just took a look at that and found it quite interesting, especially the linking of Bond's weapons of choice with his SBS background. It could just be coincidence, but it's nice to see that the film makers are using some logical basis on Bond's choice of firearms.
  • CajunCajun Posts: 481MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    PPK 7.65mm wrote:
    IMFDB just updated the No Time To Die page
    Stand by for Asp9mm's denunciation of that site. 8-)

    As popular as Glocks are, professional circles consider them the "Toyota Corolla" of pistols due to the brand's circulation, price point and reliability. Aesthetically they're not all that sexy IMO.

    The P226 has SAS provenance, so it makes sense.

    Humor me and disregard SPECTRE's helo scene for a moment. In the spirit of DC's Bond adding a bit more realism to the franchise, the PPK has IMO taken a back seat to full-size combat caliber handguns.

    Bond's firearms should be infallibly reliable and at least somewhat exotic (kinda like his women). European brands are a logical choice.

    I'm kinda surprised the Colt got so much screen time in NTTD, but I'm glad it did. The MK18's origins are firmly rooted in US Naval Special Warfare.
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  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    Paloma handles a Heckler & Koch MP5K-N/PDW with UMP-style folding stock.
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  • chitoryu12chitoryu12 Posts: 16MI6 Agent
    The Hi-Power makes sense for Craig's Bond as his personal retirement weapon. It's an old model (1935) but it was way ahead of its time and possibly the best combat pistol of World War II. It's an old school gun with vintage charm that's still extremely effective, in addition to its long life as the British service pistol.
  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    HK MP5K with CIA ID

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  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    Bonus detail for you: Nomi carries a Glock 17 with extended magazine...with 'add ons'.
    And here it is - another look at the Glock FAB Defense PDW as seen in the first trailer and a previously released still of Nomi.

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    Different suppressor to the one in SP, 3-point sling, and maybe a scope or something else on there too.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    Finally a good photo of Waldo too.
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    Bonus detail for you: Nomi carries a Glock 17 with extended magazine...with 'add ons'.
    And here it is - another look at the Glock FAB Defense PDW as seen in the first trailer and a previously released still of Nomi.

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    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/MZmiSLT47GYAzuuHvNKVG-1920-80.jpg

    Different suppressor to the one in SP, 3-point sling, and maybe a scope or something else on there too.

    That is just such movie bullcrap. Going cool over even a modicum of reality: there is no point in sacrificing terminal effectiveness in name of concealability when you're in full tac-carb.
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Is the new pistol in the poster identifiable?
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    SIg P226. pre rail version.
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  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    So, will we see both a P226 and P226R in the film? I've been telling others that the one Bond carries in Safin's lair has the rail. In this pic below, it hangs lower underneath where the rail would go and you can kind of see the grooves on either side of that front face:

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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    Possibly. He does pick up guns during the film after running out of ammo.
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  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Possibly. He does pick up guns during the film after running out of ammo.
    Thanks mate. I have a toy P226R, so I hope one is seen. Otherwise, I'll have to treat it as a Spectre prop.
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  • Bentley Mark IVBentley Mark IV TexasPosts: 144MI6 Agent
    Quite frankly, one of the poster photos bothers me as we see Bond holding a PPK with a large, drop leg, tactical holster by his side (clearly for a full-sized duty weapon). I was hoping that they would work on the gun play, but apparently not.
  • Bentley Mark IVBentley Mark IV TexasPosts: 144MI6 Agent
    0073 wrote:
    Bonus detail for you: Nomi carries a Glock 17 with extended magazine...with 'add ons'.
    And here it is - another look at the Glock FAB Defense PDW as seen in the first trailer and a previously released still of Nomi.

    MZmiSLT47GYAzuuHvNKVG-1920-80.jpg
    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/MZmiSLT47GYAzuuHvNKVG-1920-80.jpg

    Different suppressor to the one in SP, 3-point sling, and maybe a scope or something else on there too.

    That is just such movie bullcrap. Going cool over even a modicum of reality: there is no point in sacrificing terminal effectiveness in name of concealability when you're in full tac-carb.

    I love how the likely Magpul, plastic, flip-up sights are down in that photo. Not sure how she is aiming other that looking down the barrel.
  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    The leg holster is for his P226 (you can see it holstered in another photo), but yes, it is quite bulky!

    I imagine Nomi wouldn't need the sights, what with her being 007* and all. * :v
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  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Quite frankly, one of the poster photos bothers me as we see Bond holding a PPK with a large, drop leg, tactical holster by his side (clearly for a full-sized duty weapon). I was hoping that they would work on the gun play, but apparently not.

    The poster was recently updated/re-released/corrected to show Bond holding a P226 (that fits his holster) rather than a PPK.

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  • Cam008Cam008 Posts: 45MI6 Agent
    I'd love Bond to have either a Browning Hi-Power or SIG as his " retirement " carry.

    ...and if you really wanted some old school nostalgia, Fleming's Bond's first issued pistol at the start of WW2 would have been a Webley Mark VI .455 revolver :D
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