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Miles Messervy wrote:

Glocks are fine weapons - really easy to aim and obviously robust. But Glocks have no style. They are painfully ugly. This makes them a poor choice for Bond.

Hence shoving a 17 inside the KPOS!  ajb007/biggrin

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Miles Messervy wrote:

Glocks are fine weapons - really easy to aim and obviously robust. But Glocks have no style. They are painfully ugly. This makes them a poor choice for Bond.

Have to agree. Maybe a Beretta Px4 Storm Compact might be a good choice?
I kind of get the feeling that since it's Bond coming out of retirement, may be it's whatever he has stashed around the house or picks up. It will be interesting to see if Bond is "officially" reinstated to active duty as a "00" in the film and subsequently re-equipped by
Q Branch....which would be an opportunity to introduce a new handgun.

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ppw3o6r wrote:
Miles Messervy wrote:

Glocks are fine weapons - really easy to aim and obviously robust. But Glocks have no style. They are painfully ugly. This makes them a poor choice for Bond.

Hence shoving a 17 inside the KPOS!  ajb007/biggrin

Exactly!

The P226 is a fine choice for Bond. It’s got pedigree and style. It’s really expensive and somewhat outdated, but not necessarily in a bad way. Sounds like our man!  ajb007/lol

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Miles Messervy wrote:

Glocks are fine weapons - really easy to aim and obviously robust. But Glocks have no style. They are painfully ugly. This makes them a poor choice for Bond.

I agree! Glocks are popular for a reason, but Bond should not be using one of the most common handguns in existence, let alone one as ugly as a Glock. He's not John Wick. He's James F___ing Bond. He doesn't need magazines holding 17 rounds. Glocks are guns for Spectre henchmen.

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I agree. Bond needs a distinctive and stylish gun. The quality is secondary.

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IMO Bond should be using the H&K VP9 as requisitioned in SPECTRE. It has design and safety features as found on the Glock and equally ugly Steyr M9 but with a more ergonomic form. The pistol on SPECTRE was custom fitted to DC's hand so it fit him like a glove with interchangeable back straps and side grip inserts. Even his stunt VP9 had the same rubber grip inserts  ajb007/martini

Mind you I have to say that the fictional Skyfall Walther PPKS is an incredibly comfortable pistol in hand ajb007/biggrin

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ppw3o6r wrote:

IMO Bond should be using the H&K VP9 as requisitioned in SPECTRE. It has design and safety features as found on the Glock and equally ugly Steyr M9 but with a more ergonomic form. The pistol on SPECTRE was custom fitted to DC's hand so it fit him like a glove with interchangeable back straps and side grip inserts. Even his stunt VP9 had the same rubber grip inserts  ajb007/martini

Mind you I have to say that the fictional Skyfall Walther PPKS is an incredibly comfortable pistol in hand ajb007/biggrin

Just took a look at the H&K VP9 and IMO, that is the perfect, more contemporary concealed carry weapon for 007. For a modern auto it actually has a touch of elegance and much cleaner and graceful looking but still looks like serious business . Also looks great w/ a silencer. It would be a cool scene in NTTD with Bond taking out some villains in a gun battle rather easily with some precision marksmanship and after he looks at the H&K VP9, and says "where have you been all of my life".

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The SK variant is even more suited to Bond.

https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/E5700AC7-4831-4D8F-94F8-3B870CA387A1_zpsf3ypj8oe.jpeg

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In that same vein, the Walter PPQ would also be a solid choice. It has a truly excellent trigger, which is something that would matter to someone like Bond. It’s also a Walther, and I like keeping Bond in the same brand family.

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Miles Messervy wrote:

In that same vein, the Walter PPQ would also be a solid choice. It has a truly excellent trigger, which is something that would matter to someone like Bond. It’s also a Walther, and I like keeping Bond in the same brand family.

And then we are back on to the PPS M1 and 2. Which, let’s face it, is the successor to the PPK.

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Asp9mm wrote:
Miles Messervy wrote:

In that same vein, the Walter PPQ would also be a solid choice. It has a truly excellent trigger, which is something that would matter to someone like Bond. It’s also a Walther, and I like keeping Bond in the same brand family.

And then we are back on to the PPS M1 and 2. Which, let’s face it, is the successor to the PPK.

No question. I think I prefer the M2 because I prefer the updated ergonomics, although I’ve only fired the original.

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I like the original because of the mag release, triggerguard and slightly slimmer profile.

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Asp9mm wrote:

I like the original because of the mag release, triggerguard and slightly slimmer profile.

Yes, they definitely Americanized the gun in terms of the mag release. But being American, it does feel more natural to me. That said, I would have rather them kept the original style.

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Number24 wrote:

I agree. Bond needs a distinctive and stylish gun. The quality is secondary.

I am not agree with you ...
The quality of a firearm is the most important ...
Remember the case with bond's Beretta in Doctor No ... Jammed ...
The style, yes, but not over quality ...
Cheers  ajb007/martini

~God Judges Us by Our Scars~

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For a real secret agent (and any other person who rely on their handgun to stay alive) the reliability of the gun is priority number one. But Bond is a fictional person and most of the audience don't know or care how many rounds jam out of 10.000 fired with that particular gun. What many of them care about is if it's recognizable and stylish.

For this reason I think the HK VP9 would be a bad choise. it looks pretty much like many other modern handguns. Even if 007 used a VP9 for several more films most members of the public couldn't say if the gun belongs to Bond, Ethan Hunt or Black Widow if they saw a photo of it.
I think Bond should keep the Walther PPK as his consealed carry gun and use a mix of service pistols in obvious combat situations. VP9 is one of many handguns that works fine in that role.
If he did switch to a never model I think the Walther PPS M2 or the Beretta PX4 Storm Compact are good candidates. Bond has a history with both companies, they are good for consealed carry and they look distinctive and stylish (especially the Beretta)

Walther
http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Walther-PPS-M2_01.jpg

Beretta
https://gunsgunsguns.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Beretta-PX4-Storm-Compact-Carry-left-side.jpg

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Now we are in agreement ...
Cheers ...  ajb007/martini

~God Judges Us by Our Scars~

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Miles Messervy wrote:
Asp9mm wrote:

I like the original because of the mag release, triggerguard and slightly slimmer profile.

Yes, they definitely Americanized the gun in terms of the mag release. But being American, it does feel more natural to me. That said, I would have rather them kept the original style.

This is something of an enigma to me, so if any of you know something about this, please chime in: Why is the push button mag release called "American" when it was first popularized by Georg Luger in model 1900 Pistole Parabellum? Am I missing an earlier American firearm that had this feature that was subsequently copied by Mr Luger.

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Because it was adopted by the US and used on all autos.  Whereas Europe also adopted the heel release that they used predominantly.  Later replaced by the paddle. 

The US prefer the push button over the paddle and heel methods of release.

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Asp9mm wrote:

Because it was adopted by the US and used on all autos.  Whereas Europe also adopted the heel release that they used predominantly.  Later replaced by the paddle. 

The US prefer the push button over the paddle and heel methods of release.

But...but...but Colt didn't add this feature to their pistols until the model 1909 prototype, Savage never did, S&W didn't add it to their guns until Model 41 in 1947, Ruger, well they manufactured pistols well to the 2000's with heel release. Yes there were plenty European semi auto pistols with heel releases, but then again there weren't many American semi auto manufacturers per se. When the US semi auto production really kicked off with the dawn of the wonder nine, even Europeans had switched mostly to button release. Right?

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Yeah  ajb007/biggrin

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Asp9mm wrote:

Yeah  ajb007/biggrin


ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech