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Hello everyone,

For some time, I've been reading some topics here without signing up, so here is something done. Before anything else, I want to point out that I do not come from an English speaking country, so please excuse me for potential spelling or grammatical mistakes.

I discovered Bond more than fifteen years ago, when I was quite young, it was on TV and it was Never Say Never Again. Since then, I have read and loved Ian Fleming's novels, and it won't not surprise you if I confess that my favorite actor in the role is Timothy Dalton. It was by researching details about his potential third film that I discovered this forum, and topics that were dedicated to what could have been. Thus, one day or another you may see me post some ideas, explaining what would have been my dream for a Bond 17 starring Dalton, on one of these topics.

So I hope to contribute on the forums and I look forward to getting to know you better.

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Hello Herr Stockmann, and welcome!  ajb007/smile

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Welcome Herr Stockmann  ajb007/martini

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Welcome to the AJB Herr Stockmann.

English is also my second language, so I understand your comment. By being here on AJB I feel it has helped me to dramatically improve my written English.

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Nice to have you here Herr Stockmann  ajb007/martini

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Welcome Stockman  ajb007/bond
I’m a fan of Dalton too, but not everyone in the forum is. Where do you live?

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Number24 wrote:

I’m a fan of Dalton too, but not everyone in the forum is. Where do you live?

I imagine. I guess what played against him was mostly his films, more than his interpretation itself. I live in France!

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No, it was Dalton himself who was the problem ajb007/wink
He was on the edge of getting fired by the means of the US distributors  ajb007/wink

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Higgins wrote:

No, it was Dalton himself who was the problem ajb007/wink
He was on the edge of getting fired by the means of the US distributors  ajb007/wink

Herr Stockmann, you'll get to know Higgins...

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welcome Herr

Herr Stockmann wrote:

...one day or another you may see me post some ideas, explaining what would have been my dream for a Bond 17 starring Dalton, on one of these topics.

looking forward to your ideas. Imagine if there turned out to be two previously unreleased and unknown DaltonBond films made secretly in 1991 and 1993 and locked away in the EON vaults!

Herr Stockmann wrote:

I discovered Bond more than fifteen years ago, when I was quite young, it was on TV and it was Never Say Never Again.

you  must tell us more about this! What was it like to start with NSNA and then find your way into the "official" series? I don't think I've met anyone who started with that film before, but you must have thought it was pretty good to look for more like it. What were your first impressions?
There's an entire thread called Does anyone regard 'Never Say Never Again' as better than Bonds 1-24?.

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Starting with NSNA definitely wouldn't have worked for me! It was the music that was caught my attention and got me interested in Bond, and of all the different aspects of NSNA the music is possibly the weakest!

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caractacus potts wrote:

You  must tell us more about this! What was it like to start with NSNA and then find your way into the "official" series? I don't think I've met anyone who started with that film before, but you must have thought it was pretty good to look for more like it. What were your first impressions?
There's an entire thread called Does anyone regard 'Never Say Never Again' as better than Bonds 1-24?.

The concept of an official series and an unofficial movie came later. In my aftermath, after discovering NSNA, I then saw the others with Connery and then moved on to the rest. And if I am far from ranking it in my top 10 or so, I still like this film, to the extent that I do not find it worse than a number of the installments featuring Moore or Brosnan. And yes, I will quickly share my ideas for a Bond 17 staring Dalton.

Golrush007 wrote:

Starting with NSNA definitely wouldn't have worked for me! It was the music that was caught my attention and got me interested in Bond, and of all the different aspects of NSNA the music is possibly the weakest!

It is certain that the music of Legrand is at best a disappointment, at worst a catastrophe, especially since he is a great composer.Nevertheless, it is a judgment that I made myself later, so much I was only five when I discovered the series.

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The most important thing, Herr Stockmann, is that you became a Bond fan! Even if the route you took was unconventional...I have a similar story with regards to the literary Bond.

After I'd seen a few Bond movies I came across my first Bond books, these were Zero Minus Ten and Tomorrow Never Dies by Raymond Benosn. After I'd read those I found Scorpius by John Gardner, and only after that did I come across my first Ian Fleming book...and unfortunately it was The Man With The Golden Gun, which is widely regarded as one of the weakest Fleming novels. Anyway, eventually I did discover the Fleming classics and have been a big literary Bond fan ever since.

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Golrush007 wrote:

After I'd seen a few Bond movies I came across my first Bond books, these were Zero Minus Ten and Tomorrow Never Dies by Raymond Benosn. After I'd read those I found Scorpius by John Gardner, and only after that did I come across my first Ian Fleming book...and unfortunately it was The Man With The Golden Gun, which is widely regarded as one of the weakest Fleming novels.

This is a very interesting and unconventional story. I must say that I never read any of Gardner's or Benson's novels. Do you recommend any?

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In my opinion John Gardner's first seven novels are all pretty good, and for me he really hit his stride with the third book, Icebreaker. I also particularly like No Deals, Mr Bond and Nobody Lives Forever so those three I would recommend. However, there is little consensus when it comes to Gardner. Some people don't enjoy any of his novels, and there are people like myself and Sillhouette Man who like them all.

As for Benson, apart from his novelisations I've only read Zero Minus Ten and High Time to Kill. HTTK was a really interesting story so consider giving that one a try. The Benson novels coincided with the Brosnan films so they do have a bit of the flavour of that era of Bond movies, but the Bond character is a bit more 'literary' than Brosnan's portrayal.