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If Apple ends up buying MGM, as the latest rumours have it, I think we'll see a very different Bond. I'd love to see an adaptation of the Warren Ellis comics, as both Vargr and Eidolon were excellent. But I'd opt for a generic, not-so-continuity-heavy Bond, just being assigned a mission and fulfilling it. If we could give a rest to the "rogue agent" trope, that would be also great. So far we've had Bond resigning in CR, being disavowed in QoS, being seemingly killed and brought back in SF, acting without official orders in Sp and being brought from retirement in NTTD. Please let the man have a proper job for one friggin' film.

"Enjoy it while it lasts."
"The very words I live by."

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writingsonthewall wrote:

If Apple ends up buying MGM, as the latest rumours have it, I think we'll see a very different Bond. I'd love to see an adaptation of the Warren Ellis comics, as both Vargr and Eidolon were excellent. But I'd opt for a generic, not-so-continuity-heavy Bond, just being assigned a mission and fulfilling it. If we could give a rest to the "rogue agent" trope, that would be also great. So far we've had Bond resigning in CR, being disavowed in QoS, being seemingly killed and brought back in SF, acting without official orders in Sp and being brought from retirement in NTTD. Please let the man have a proper job for one friggin' film.

I don't know what turn the films would take if Apple bought out MGM and partnering with EON.....but one thing I do know, EON's ongoing MGM financial aggravation will no longer be an issue....... ajb007/smile and Bond will always be seen using Apple products ajb007/lol .

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"Last good Bond was CR" All I can say to that was WOW. Sky fall was a Bond Masterpiece and has the 1Billion box-office to prove most people agreed.

AugustWalker wrote:

I think the Craig-films are too much a universe of their own to be just taken over and „continued“ by the next actor. So a soft reboot seems the likeliest to me.
They should at least keep M and Moneypenny, Q should again be an older man (than Bond).

In general, the future of the franchise is a thread worth alone. With the long hiatuses/ production issues and the current mixed received end products (last good Bond was CR), it will at least be difficult to keep up the public interest in a long term.

Doing the right thing and going a more traditional way (1962-2002) could totally make the difference.
The majority of people say they miss those times (especially non-Bond fans), so why not go back...

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Mr Martini wrote:

How about re-cast Bond and keep the rest of the cast. Maybe down the road you can replace characters like Moneypenny and Q. Different actress playing the part of M's secretary. She can be named anything but could be given the nickname of Moneypenny as a wink & nod to the past. The same with Q, any actor or actress with anyname. Q is more of a title, than a name. That way Bond can stay the same while the others age and move on to retirement or maybe even death.

What about recast everyone else, but keep Craig for one more film after NTTD? ajb007/insane

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Option 3 would be Dynasty-level soap opera- I think it would just get laughs. So unless they did it as a nudging joke, I don’t think it would work.

Like Doctor Who, I think people accept that the actor changes but they are all the Doctor. I’m aware it’s slightly different in that they have more distinct personality changes, so they’re different versions, and the science-fiction context makes it more ‘believable’- however, it’s not as if Bond never changed as a character. They (hopefully) won’t just cast someone who would be a Craig clone.

I think they might keep Ralph Fiennes, or if not, replace him with another older respected actor- particularly if they go for an unknown as Bond.

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Daniel Craig's Bond is so odd with the timeline and events that I believe the series has to be rebooted afterwards. Besides the paycheck, not many actors would really want to play Bond at this point with Daniel Craig's series baggage. Nolan wants to direct a fresh start. I'm sure the actors that would want to work with him would agree. I would bet that Henry Cavill would want a fresh start if he took on the role.

So I say complete reboot and re-imagining of many of the stories in the books. They could do Moonraker right.

"Better late than never."

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SilentSpy wrote:

Besides the paycheck, not many actors would really want to play Bond at this point with Daniel Craig's series baggage.

I can't believe there's any shortage of actors who'd give their right arm to play Bond. And the right actor, such as Roger Moore, wouldn't flinch even given the legacy of Sean Connery if they have the chance to stamp their own personality on the role.

"How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."

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Jarvio wrote:

I am actually at a loss of what they are even going to do with the bond film series after DC leaves. I know that they have just replaced and carried on in the past, but times have changed since then and I don't think today's audiences would buy into a new actor replacing craig as if nothing ever happened, with the other characters reacting to him as such. I could be wrong, but I'm just not sure if I can see it? Q, M, and Moneypenny would all be aging, while bond gets younger? It worked then, but not so sure that audiences would accept it today, especially considering that the DC tenure is far more strict with continuity than the other tenures IMO.

Here are the possibilities of what could happen in post-craig bond:.........

6 - A reboot, but this one being a period piece, ie bond set in the 50's/60's. Q, M, and Moneypenny kept as they are.
7 - Same as above, but with Q, M, and Moneypenny being re-cast as well.
.....

I'm all in for these two options. It should be quite enough to end all this nonsense about "Bond being out of date". If this happens, my vote for the next James Bond goes to Tobias Menzies, but alas I am afraid it is not going to be.

I try to live by the wise words of James Bond: "Worry is dividend paid to disaster before its due", but current times make this very hard indeed....  ajb007/crap

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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OH!!!

Why didn't I see it right away!? It's so obvious what should happen!!

Bond producers should hire the people scripting Archer and go all in with booze, girls, gadgets, gags and all out outrageousness!!!

They could even bring back  Judy Dench to play M (for Mother) and Lashana Lynch would have a proper role in it too!!!  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

I mean, Roggie did almost all of it already, he even was the Original user of Tactleneck!

Can you sing "Danger Zone"

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"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Brilliant!  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

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Just to stun the world, give us a big old reboot (guessing it will take years for EON to get "Bond 26" off of the ground so all of the primary actors for starters will be considerably older, which shouldn't matter in some cases but as was said by eng2ajd, Ralph Fiennes and Ben Winshaw, for instance, are more intrinsically tied to Daniel Craig's James Bond whereas Judi Dench somehow transcended the Pierce Brosnan iteration of the character. Brosnan felt more like a "continuation" of pre-1990s Bond--thematically he certainly was--whereas Craig's Bond feels like a newborn with Casino Royale, making M his mother figure (which they paid off in Skyfall)... But the new M can be an at-that-point-in-his-early-fifties Idris Elba. Now that would create some think pieces. Have him be frustrated with Bond a lot in their early goings with one another in "Bond 26," too! Haha.

Or not. I do think that some kind of considerable reboot feels borderline inevitable. Especially with the way that the producers are talking about No Time to Die representing a kind of "satisfying" conclusion of sorts, as though the franchise is about to take a nap and probably require a shot of adrenaline ala Bond in Casino Royale once it is time to reanimate it in the 2020s.

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I think it depends on how NTTD ends. If the final reel has a strong sense of finality to it I guess there has to be some kind of harder reboot. But if it ends with all of the Scooby gang surviving and Bond and Madeline walking into the sunset I want a soft reboot. After all they kept the same timeline all the way up to and including Brosnan. I think some franchises suffer from re-boot fatigue, perhaps Siderman is an example. Hard re-boots can come too often and I sure want to see the current MI6 staff and Leiter age into the role.

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I think the era of the reboot is (thankfully) coming to an end--look at the way Marvel didn't bother to reboot Spider-Man once Tom Holland got the part.  My hope is that the next Bond will be introduced the way Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, and Brosnan were--a brief nod to the audience (actually Moore didn't even get that) and then on with the show!

Vox clamantis in deserto

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Holland was perfect to cast as Spiderman for the long haul as he was actually young enough to easily pass for a high school student.
Holland's youth also made it possible to develop the great father figure/son chemistry that Holland had with Robert Downey/Ironman. Now that Marvel/Disney and Sony have come to some sort of agreement, Holland will more than likely be Spiderman for as long as he chooses. With regards to Bond, I think EON/MGM and especially Dana Broccoli see Craig as a hard act to follow. That opinion may not be shared by some at the AJB....but AJB'ers don't get to call the shots ajb007/lol . So, given that EON is still in the driver's seat for Bond 26, what do they do? Beats the hell out of me ajb007/insane  ajb007/lol . If say, Disney or Warner Bros took over, I could see them literally starting over, not just with a hard reboot but an origin story with Bond in the Navy, starting out in SBS (a nice touch of commando/Seal style action), then moving into Naval Intelligence (a little black ops maybe?) and then recruitment into MI6. Disney would do it in a more contemporary setting, Warners might actually go period back to the 50's/60's. If you are thinking what I am thinking, this all sounds like the makings of a high budget Netflix, Amazon, etc series. Interestingly, MGM has a controlling interest in and runs EPIX which is kind of a cross between Netflix/Amazon....so even if EON doesn't sell out, it is possible we could see Bond come to Premium Cable/ Streaming at some point. EPIX already has the 4K library of the Bond films available for streaming.....so who knows?