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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    According to British tabloid The Sun, Billie Eilish recorded her Bond theme in the UK after she had her birthday, which is 18 December. "It is believed Billie jetted here to put the finishing touches to the track at the famous Abbey Road Studios in West London just days after her 18th birthday."
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10740050/billy-eilish-secret-london-bond/
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Someone wrote:
    According to British tabloid The Sun....

    For non-Brits, The Sun is not a reliable source of information. If they say it's Monday, check a calendar.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/15/billie-eilish-to-perform-the-no-time-to-die-title-song/

    The song, created in collaboration with legendary German composer Hans Zimmer, was recorded in late December 2019 at AIR Studios in London, and will be released by Darkroom/Interscope Records.
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Red_Snow wrote:
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/15/billie-eilish-to-perform-the-no-time-to-die-title-song/

    The song, created in collaboration with legendary German composer Hans Zimmer, was recorded in late December 2019 at AIR Studios in London, and will be released by Darkroom/Interscope Records.

    Nicely confirmed/checked there Red_Snow.

    BTW that totally fake film The Rhythm Section has a new social media ad.
    https://twitter.com/ParamountUK/status/1217146068019949569?s=20
  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,085MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Red_Snow wrote:
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/15/billie-eilish-to-perform-the-no-time-to-die-title-song/

    The song, created in collaboration with legendary German composer Hans Zimmer, was recorded in late December 2019 at AIR Studios in London, and will be released by Darkroom/Interscope Records.

    Nicely confirmed/checked there Red_Snow.

    BTW that totally fake film The Rhythm Section has a new social media ad.
    https://twitter.com/ParamountUK/status/1217146068019949569?s=20

    I saw a poster for The Rhythm Section in my local theater on Friday. You've got to respect the commitment to this totally fake film. :)) :)) :))
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Red_Snow wrote:
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/15/billie-eilish-to-perform-the-no-time-to-die-title-song/

    The song, created in collaboration with legendary German composer Hans Zimmer, was recorded in late December 2019 at AIR Studios in London, and will be released by Darkroom/Interscope Records.

    Nicely confirmed/checked there Red_Snow.

    BTW that totally fake film The Rhythm Section has a new social media ad.
    https://twitter.com/ParamountUK/status/1217146068019949569?s=20

    I saw a poster for The Rhythm Section in my local theater on Friday. You've got to respect the commitment to this totally fake film. :)) :)) :))

    So they fake they just released another trailer:

    https://youtu.be/yF4KFWpq2TI
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Red_Snow wrote:
    Someone wrote:

    Nicely confirmed/checked there Red_Snow.

    BTW that totally fake film The Rhythm Section has a new social media ad.
    https://twitter.com/ParamountUK/status/1217146068019949569?s=20

    I saw a poster for The Rhythm Section in my local theater on Friday. You've got to respect the commitment to this totally fake film. :)) :)) :))

    So they fake they just released another trailer:

    https://youtu.be/yF4KFWpq2TI

    It's certainly looking a lot less cheap than that first trailer, which looked like a student film project.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    Finneas Talks Co-Writing the ‘No Time To Die’ Title Song on the Pop Shop Podcast
    https://wp.me/pbs8To-ca

    Finneas has reveal that he and sister Billie Eilish have been working on the title song for a year, and were not 'approached' to do the song, but fought it out before ultimately being chosen.
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Another Billie Eilish scoop by James Bond Australia.
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/23/finneas-talks-co-writing-the-no-time-to-die-title-song-on-the-pop-shop-podcast/

    Eilish's brother, Finneas, told a music podcast that; "We were not really 'approached' about it. We fought it out for a year. We've always wanted to write a James Bond theme song. And you know, it's a legendary franchise, so we had to convince a lot of people that we were the right choice. And then we had to wrkite a song that everybody liked. So it was a hard won process...we got to work with Hans Zimmer and Steven Lipson in the studio."

    I'd love to know who else was fighting for it for a year.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    That was weird.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Another Billie Eilish scoop by James Bond Australia.
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/23/finneas-talks-co-writing-the-no-time-to-die-title-song-on-the-pop-shop-podcast/

    Eilish's brother, Finneas, told a music podcast that; "We were not really 'approached' about it. We fought it out for a year. We've always wanted to write a James Bond theme song. And you know, it's a legendary franchise, so we had to convince a lot of people that we were the right choice. And then we had to wrkite a song that everybody liked. So it was a hard won process...we got to work with Hans Zimmer and Steven Lipson in the studio."

    I'd love to know who else was fighting for it for a year.
    So if they were working with Zimmer for a year now does that mean he's been working on the score for a year as well?
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Another Billie Eilish scoop by James Bond Australia.
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/23/finneas-talks-co-writing-the-no-time-to-die-title-song-on-the-pop-shop-podcast/

    Eilish's brother, Finneas, told a music podcast that; "We were not really 'approached' about it. We fought it out for a year. We've always wanted to write a James Bond theme song. And you know, it's a legendary franchise, so we had to convince a lot of people that we were the right choice. And then we had to wrkite a song that everybody liked. So it was a hard won process...we got to work with Hans Zimmer and Steven Lipson in the studio."

    I'd love to know who else was fighting for it for a year.
    So if they were working with Zimmer for a year now does that mean he's been working on the score for a year as well?

    I think it's more likely they had a deadline to make the song choice, and originally they weren't bothered about the song being part of the score, but the timing of Romer's departure and Zimmer's availability made it possible and Finneas and Billie were probably selected late last year because they recorded it just before Christmas; so it's quite recent that the track was even laid down. I suspect that Romer's departure was earlier than anyone suspects, even earlier than JamesBondRadio's knowledge of it.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Another Billie Eilish scoop by James Bond Australia.
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/23/finneas-talks-co-writing-the-no-time-to-die-title-song-on-the-pop-shop-podcast/

    Eilish's brother, Finneas, told a music podcast that; "We were not really 'approached' about it. We fought it out for a year. We've always wanted to write a James Bond theme song. And you know, it's a legendary franchise, so we had to convince a lot of people that we were the right choice. And then we had to wrkite a song that everybody liked. So it was a hard won process...we got to work with Hans Zimmer and Steven Lipson in the studio."

    I'd love to know who else was fighting for it for a year.
    So if they were working with Zimmer for a year now does that mean he's been working on the score for a year as well?

    I don't think Zimmer came in until it was nearly time to record the song. This leads me to believe I'm right that Zimmer is just working as a producer on the song.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    Another Billie Eilish scoop by James Bond Australia.
    https://www.jamesbondaustralia.com/2020/01/23/finneas-talks-co-writing-the-no-time-to-die-title-song-on-the-pop-shop-podcast/

    Eilish's brother, Finneas, told a music podcast that; "We were not really 'approached' about it. We fought it out for a year. We've always wanted to write a James Bond theme song. And you know, it's a legendary franchise, so we had to convince a lot of people that we were the right choice. And then we had to wrkite a song that everybody liked. So it was a hard won process...we got to work with Hans Zimmer and Steven Lipson in the studio."

    I'd love to know who else was fighting for it for a year.
    So if they were working with Zimmer for a year now does that mean he's been working on the score for a year as well?

    I think it's more likely they had a deadline to make the song choice, and originally they weren't bothered about the song being part of the score, but the timing of Romer's departure and Zimmer's availability made it possible and Finneas and Billie were probably selected late last year because they recorded it just before Christmas; so it's quite recent that the track was even laid down. I suspect that Romer's departure was earlier than anyone suspects, even earlier than JamesBondRadio's knowledge of it.
    Yeah after re-reading it Finneas didn't say he worked with Zimmer for a year just that they've been working on the song for a year. Wonder if they worked with Romer as well?
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    So if they were working with Zimmer for a year now does that mean he's been working on the score for a year as well?

    I think it's more likely they had a deadline to make the song choice, and originally they weren't bothered about the song being part of the score, but the timing of Romer's departure and Zimmer's availability made it possible and Finneas and Billie were probably selected late last year because they recorded it just before Christmas; so it's quite recent that the track was even laid down. I suspect that Romer's departure was earlier than anyone suspects, even earlier than JamesBondRadio's knowledge of it.
    Yeah after re-reading it Finneas didn't say he worked with Zimmer for a year just that they've been working on the song for a year. Wonder if they worked with Romer as well?

    Working with Romer wouldn't have surprised me. Romer is a big-name music producer and would have been a great asset to have in that regard for the title song.
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    The current version is that Romer was fired in late November. So, either Eilish was hired when Romer was doing the score or Eilish was hired and the theme song was done in about three weeks, which seems unlikely, especially since Zimmer was supposed to be involved in writing it and he wasn't announced until mid-January.

    I doubt that we will ever know the truth to this whole situation.
  • clublosclublos Jacksonville, FLPosts: 193MI6 Agent
    Okay so studio work was with Zimmer, but they had to submit a demo in order to get the job. Fair enough.

    I wonder if anyone else submitted a demo....
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    The current version is that Romer was fired in late November. So, either Eilish was hired when Romer was doing the score or Eilish was hired and the theme song was done in about three weeks, which seems unlikely, especially since Zimmer was supposed to be involved in writing it and he wasn't announced until mid-January.

    I doubt that we will ever know the truth to this whole situation.

    What reports said that Zimmer was involved with writing the theme? As far as I've seen it has only been said that he has worked on it, and that Billie Eilish and Finneas wrote the theme.

    "The #NoTimeToDie title song will be performed by @billieeilish. Billie has written the song with her brother @finneas and is the youngest artist in history to write and record a James Bond theme song."

    No mention of Zimmer writing it. The evidence points to Zimmer producing the theme, and he has a lot of experience as a producer.
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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,736MI6 Agent
    edited January 2020
    What reports said that Zimmer was involved with writing the theme? As far as I've seen it has only been said that he has worked on it, and that Billie Eilish and Finneas wrote the theme.

    "The #NoTimeToDie title song will be performed by @billieeilish. Billie has written the song with her brother @finneas and is the youngest artist in history to write and record a James Bond theme song."

    No mention of Zimmer writing it. The evidence points to Zimmer producing the theme, and he has a lot of experience as a producer.

    Based upon what I have read, that seems to be what transpired. Eilish and her brother wrote the song and submitted a demo to the Bond producers. I would guess that Zimmer will get a producer credit for his involvement in the actual recording made for the film. I do find it interesting that EON apparently did not specifically seek out Eilish. One also has to wonder if Zimmer was involved/had input in selecting the theme song and of course whether or not the theme song will appear in Zimmer's score itself. Considering Zimmer appears to have been on board since December, even the most irrationally panicky, the sky is falling types, should not have any worries that the music is being "rushed". Another related question, back in the "old" days, weren't the soundtrack albums released prior to the release of the film to build up anticipation and promote the films?
  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,227MI6 Agent
    @ Howard B, Yes, from the 1960's until recent years a movies soundtrack would hit retail ahead of the movies opening in theatres as part of the promotional campaign.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,736MI6 Agent
    PPK 7.65mm wrote:
    @ Howard B, Yes, from the 1960's until recent years a movies soundtrack would hit retail ahead of the movies opening in theatres as part of the promotional campaign.

    That's what I remember. Back in the vinyl days, I looked forward to getting the soundtrack album to the latest Bond film....you weren't just getting the music, but some great artwork also.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    PPK 7.65mm wrote:
    @ Howard B, Yes, from the 1960's until recent years a movies soundtrack would hit retail ahead of the movies opening in theatres as part of the promotional campaign.

    That's what I remember. Back in the vinyl days, I looked forward to getting the soundtrack album to the latest Bond film....you weren't just getting the music, but some great artwork also.

    You would also get some spoilers. If the track names didn't give it away the tone of the music often would.
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  • 005005 Posts: 138MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    PPK 7.65mm wrote:
    @ Howard B, Yes, from the 1960's until recent years a movies soundtrack would hit retail ahead of the movies opening in theatres as part of the promotional campaign.

    That's what I remember. Back in the vinyl days, I looked forward to getting the soundtrack album to the latest Bond film....you weren't just getting the music, but some great artwork also.

    You would also get some spoilers. If the track names didn't give it away the tone of the music often would.

    Track titles like "Qui-gon Jin's funeral" were still being used in 1999. I'm glad they've somewhat changed their approach since.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    More evidence that NTTD will be 2h 54mins long, Latvian cinema chain and country's distributor both publish the running time.
    https://twitter.com/antovolk/status/1220114247696502785?s=20
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    More evidence that NTTD will be 2h 54mins long, Latvian cinema chain and country's distributor both publish the running time.
    https://twitter.com/antovolk/status/1220114247696502785?s=20

    If that turns out to be true, it’ll be interesting to see how they fill up essentially three hours of runtime—the longest Bond yet.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Would they even have finished a final cut yet to even determine run time
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    PPK 7.65mm wrote:
    @ Howard B, Yes, from the 1960's until recent years a movies soundtrack would hit retail ahead of the movies opening in theatres as part of the promotional campaign.

    That's what I remember. Back in the vinyl days, I looked forward to getting the soundtrack album to the latest Bond film....you weren't just getting the music, but some great artwork also.
    I remember Zimmer specifically had Interstellar's score (except for two tracks not in the movie) held back until two weeks after the films release so audiences would experience the music on the big screen first. Ever since then I usually see scores released on the day of or after a films premiere instead of before. I'm guessing NTTD will be the same.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Would they even have finished a final cut yet to even determine run time

    Maybe not down to the minute but the difference between the normal 2h 20-something minutes and the apparent 2h 54min NTTD running time is huge. The approved production script would have indicated a final running time and we know the scenes go up to 254 because of clapperboard pictures, so based on that alone it's going to be a 2h 50-something minute movie.

    And we now know that the script was a Purvis & Wade, Fukunaga collaboration (with polishing by Scott Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge). The NTTD scenes 205 to 255 (144 minutes to 178 minutes) do not exist because Fukunaga took an axe to an earlier Boyle script and added rafts of his own third act scenes; every scene in the NTTD script was planned and crafted, an outcome of Fukunaga and P&W's work together.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    Gymkata wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    More evidence that NTTD will be 2h 54mins long, Latvian cinema chain and country's distributor both publish the running time.
    https://twitter.com/antovolk/status/1220114247696502785?s=20

    NO TIME TO PEE.

    :)) :)) :))
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    That number could include 30 minutes of trailers for a more reasonable 144min.
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