Bond 25 SPOILER news

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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Somehow I managed to overlook a major spoiler in the VG article:

    [Production designer Mark] Tidlsey reveals more about what happens in the film's Norwegian opening:
    - We get to know the young Madeleine Swann. She visits her mother in the summer house. Some dramatic events happen that will leave a mark on her life.


    Tildesly goes on saying the Norwegian house was recreated in England.
    - The scenes that happen on the inside of the house were filmed at Pinewood. We also buildt the house in the English countryside. Lea Seydoux's character actually returns to the house when it's summer. Unfortunately we didn't have the time to Return to Norway to film these scenes, says the renouwned designer. We're also told several of the Norwegian scenes were filmed in Scotland for practical reasons.


    The part about the cabin being rebuildt in England makes sense since Østmarka, where the June scenes were filmed is south of Nittedal where the cabin was. I wonder if Østmarka has something Scotland doesn't have or they simply filed since they were in Norway anyway for the Atlantic Sea Road filming? Perhaps the availability of actors was an issue?

    Wow, Madeleine is clearly going to be very central to the plot, I'm surprised they haven't done more to promote her character, although there was this recent social media video. https://twitter.com/007/status/1229088049168031757?s=20

    She returns to the vila in the summer? That can't be part of the PTS. I wonder if there is something in the house that will help Bond and Madeleine? Maybe this is the chase filmed in Scotland with the Valhalla? Something has to be retrieved from the house and the race is on?

    In SPECTRE, Mr White says of his wife, "she left long ago." Now we'll know where she went. I can imagine a 15 minute PTS purely Madeleine focused. People were speculating we would see a de-aged Mr White, and maybe we still will. How old is that girl in the BTS pics? 13? She's unlikely to have travelled alone if she is visiting her mother. I wonder if we'll get a surprise celebrity casting for Madeleine's mother? Sophie Marceau would be a good choice. :)

    It's a good article by VG magazine, here is the link again.
    https://www.vg.no/rampelys/film/i/Wb1OaL/james-bond-skaperne-derfor-valgte-de-norge
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    Her return to the cabin isn't in the PTS, I feel sure of that. Madeleine will return there as an adult in the summer and it's possible she's looking for something. It's noteworthy that she's visiting her mother in the PTS, her father isn't mentioned. I'm guessing young Madeleine is at some expensive boarding school after her parents' divorce and visits her parents individually in schoolbreaks (or likely just her mother after the events in the PTS). I'd say Madeleine is between ten and thirteen when she's on the frozen lake, but it can be hard to estimate the age of girls that age. If we use Lea Seyfoux' age as a baseline that would put the events in the cabin to mid to late 90's. I don't see any practical problems with a girl that age traveling alone. At least on domestic flights children younger than her travel alone. Mr White is rich, so the girl can even be flown in by helicopter.
  • NoiNoi Posts: 705MI6 Agent
    Red_Snow wrote:

    Nice funfact
    “The road surfaces in Matera – flint, marble, limestone, sandstone – are from different parts of Italy, and there’s a fine layer of dust over everything. We wash down the roads and treat them with Coca-Cola…” Hold up. You treat the roads with Coca-Cola? “It’s a trick that’s been used for years in the film industry. It gives the vehicles the traction they need to perform at high speeds.”
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    I have updated my version of the NTTD story based on the trailer, TV spots, what we know, the early Spectre draft script ideas, other leaks, and new info like the Norwegian VO publication interviews, Fukunaga's Empire interview, and a little bit of speculation by me, which is in italics.

    The PTS is a young Safin going to the house of Madeleine Swann's mother while Madeleine is visiting her mother's Norwegian villa. The young Madeleine escapes to the nearby frozen lake and is pulled out of it by Safin. After the titles it goes immediately to Bond and Madeleine arriving in Matera. We see an apparently romantic weekend away but Bond goes to Vesper's grave and that is where the attack by Primo and his thugs starts. The Matera chase ends with Madeleine getting on the train and Bond leading the villains to a bridge and Bond escapes by jumping off the bridge.

    There will be a time jump here and we'll see abseiling commandos led by Primo attack a London skyscraper, maybe a secret chemical lab. Then we'll get M and his 'where's 007,' line and it will be Nomi who is 007. Nomi goes on her mission and she goes to Jamaica. This is where they reintroduce Bond and we see his life in Jamaica with the boat and the spear fishing, leading to his meeting with Felix Leiter. Leiter will give Bond his mission to retrieve the scientist Valdo Obruchev telling Bond he trusts no one and he needs Bond's help. Bond bumps into Nomi in the Jamaican nightclub and they end up at Bond's Jamaican home and she warns him off, 'stay in your lane,' or she'll 'put a bullet in your knee, the one that works'.

    Bond goes to Cuba anyway and teams up with Leiter's agent in Cuba, Paloma. Bond doesn't know Nomi is working with CIA agent Ashe (Billy Magnussen) and she doesn't know Ashe is a traitor. Bond and Paloma find themselves at a Spectre meeting, a ball, that has a deadly outcome. Safin is a protege of Blofeld and they have decided the Spectre operatives at the Cuba meeting must die. Bond and Paloma have to fight their way out of the meeting and are chased through Havana. They don't retrieve Obruchev, Nomi does, but they do take something, a McGuffin/clue about Spectre's intentions. Nomi and Ashe intervene during the Havana chase and Primo is killed. Bond, Nomi and Obruchev reach the coast where Leiter is waiting in a boat for Obruchev's retrieval. The Cuba action ends with Ashe revealed as a turncoat and Bond and Leiter have to fight Spectre on the boat they took to Cuba. Leiter dies as the boat sinks, Bond survives, but Nomi thinks Bond is dead. Nomi, a pilot, escapes in her floatplane with Obruchev.

    Bond goes back to London to warn M about Spectre. Bond then visits Q, who says, 'so you're not dead'. Bond needs Q's help and asks Q for a plane suggesting that the final destination is an island. Bond meets M and Tanner secretly in Hammersmith to discuss his concerns about Nomi due to the infiltration of MI6 and CIA by Spectre. Bond goes to see Blofeld at Wakefield prison and encounters Madeleine again. Blofeld tells Bond her secret will be the death of Bond. Talking to Madeleine, Bond discovers that she maybe able to help find Safin with a McGuffin in Norway; where Madeleine's mother still lives. But when Safin visits her, to try to obtain the McGuffin Bond took from Cuba, Madeleine agrees to betray Bond.

    M unofficially sends Bond with Madeleine to Norway to get a McGuffin from Madeleine's mother that will help them find Safin. Bond and Madeleine travel there in the Vantage. Madeleine is actually leading Bond into a trap in Norway. Attacked at the Villa, the Vantage is destroyed and they escape in Madeleine's mother's old Toyota SUV chased by Ashe and his henchmen, and Madeleine's mother is injured, with Madeleine holding her on the SUV's back seat.

    Bond, Madeleine and her injured mother are trying to escape from Ashe's Land Rover Defender and Safin's helicopter but Bond fails, Madeleine is taken and her mother dies. Bond is found by Nomi and together they return to London for that plane Bond asked for, to attack Safin's ex-diamond mine lair and they infiltrate it. Bond and Nomi find Safin's deadly algae farm and his cloning/identity changing clinic, and Nomi finds Madeleine and a clone victim child. Bond goes to kill Safin to avenge Leiter while Nomi, Madeleine and the child escape to a rocky beach. Bond kills Safin and escapes the self-destructing lair reaching the beach and they all escape in a RIB.

    Mission accomplished, Bond, Madeleine and the clone child walk into the sunset as a family, Bond has the happy ever after.
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    German magazine „CINEMA“ has some new information about the film:

    A new high-res picture of the car crash in Scottland that doubles for Norway. Scottland is merely a filming location and will not be mentioned in the movie at all.
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    The scottish manor is apparently a safe house. So we can guess that Madeleine and others? are being hidden there before Safin takes them via the helicopter.
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    Bond is also chased by gunmen on bikes in Norway (what we know since the Land Rover commercial), but here‘s a closer look of their outfit.
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    Runtime is listed with 174 minutes and they’re writing this like they got confirmation on it. My local cinema on the other hand updated their booking page last week with 156 minutes.
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  • Mattia De VartiMattia De Varti ItalyPosts: 488MI6 Agent
    A new image from Matera (behind the scenes)
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    Runtime is listed with 174 minutes and they’re writing this like they got confirmation on it. My local cinema on the other hand updated their booking page last week with 156 minutes.

    I think this is one of the strongest indicators yet that it is 2h 54min. I don't trust cinema websites, where stuff just gets added by webmasters from stuff they copied from elsewhere to fill a gap in the webpage code, but I think a credible German movie publication which has access to exclusive photos, I think the likelihood they have got the facts is high. Having worked with Germans I just find it hard to believe any German would put in a wild guess as fact; they have too strong a sense of pride in their work in my experience.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    A new image from Matera (behind the scenes)
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    That image can be seen in this story, a set visit report about the Matera chase sequence.
    https://www.iodonna.it/attualita/storie-e-reportage/2020/02/24/007-no-time-to-die-tutti-i-segreti-del-capitolo-25-della-saga-di-james-bond/

    It explains how Bond's DB5 gets scratched down both sides: "Bond descends with the Aston from a staircase, skims historic buildings." The report also says that Land Rover Defenders were present in Matera.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Triumph has some info on its website about its motorbike work on NTTD and quotes NTTD stunt coordinator Lee Morrison. The firm says it provided its new Tiger 900 and Scrambler 1200 models.
    https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/inside-triumph/james-bond-partnership?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitter_uk&utm_content=&utm_campaign=social

    "James Bond stunt coordinator Lee Morrison said; “Triumph gave us early Tiger 900 prototypes before launch so we could film in 3 key locations well before the bike’s official reveal. I have to say that we have literally thrown everything at them. Big craggy sharp rocks, deep boggy mud, high speeds, big jumps and huge climbs and descents across a variety of conditions. The Tigers really have stood up to the task incredibly well, with no mechanical issues, and to me this really proves their go-anywhere credentials.” "

    Three locations? We know of Matera and Scotland, is Norway the third? Big craggy rocks is Matera maybe? The deep boggy mud must be Scotland and the Defender filming we've seen.
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    https://youtu.be/g4aSE4FhbG4 From Cary, with love...
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    https://youtu.be/g4aSE4FhbG4 From Cary, with love...

    Hell yes.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    -{ great video the film looks amazing.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond +++ Classified +++Posts: 569MI6 Agent
    https://youtu.be/g4aSE4FhbG4 From Cary, with love...

    The style of this film looks absolutely amazing.

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    It looks fantastic and it's interesting to hear the director's take on Bond and the film, but ….

    "Every Bond film has that. The danger, but also the emotional punch ……" really?

    What's the emotional punch of TSWLW, DN, TLD etc?
    There are usually some sacrificial lamb, but does every Bond film have an emotional punch like the one Fukunage describes?
  • Jflynn2112Jflynn2112 Posts: 68MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    It looks fantastic and it's interesting to hear the director's take on Bond and the film, but ….

    "every Bond film has that emotional punch ……" really?

    What's the emotional punch of TSWLW, DN, TLD etc?
    There are usually some sacrificial lamb, but does every Bond film have an emotional punch like the one Fukunage describes?

    I picked up on that too.
    This is something exclusive to the Craig era.

    I'm ridiculously hyped about this film.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think the " emotional punch " is always served at the Bond wrap party ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • propcollector22propcollector22 Lake district UKPosts: 72MI6 Agent
    Well those of you who looked at my page will know i loaned 1 of my magic props to Q's apartment, Don't know if it will make the final cut, but ....... not long now till i find out if the Rubiks cube in a jar gets to be seen ! (please don't share this image !)


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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    Let's hope the Rubiks cube gets in the finished film :007)

    I'm watching the director's commentary of the great film "Delicatessen". He mentions that drinking water reservoirs are kept in the dark to avoid algae from growing in it. That explains the lights in the pool in Safin's lair, I think. I guess it's obvious when you think about it, but I hadn't really thought about it before.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    https://youtu.be/g4aSE4FhbG4 From Cary, with love...

    Interesting we see the scene where M says, "Come on Bond, where are you," from a different angle and Tanner and Moneypenny are there but no Q, probably because he is in that plane that ejects the glider and is on his way back to the UK.

    I would imagine Bond and Nomi have tracking devices but deep in the mine they can't be detected and maybe Nomi has emerged from Safin's lair and the Scooby gang can see her signal but not Bond's.

    I think the Cuban bar sequence is shown out of order and it is actually, Bond falls onto the bar with the henchmen, and takes that guy's rifle and then we see him exit the bar and turn and fire the rifle.

    And also interesting is we see the beige SUV being taken out by a Defender, with them both rolling down the slope. I would imagine Ash and his henchmen drag Madeleine (and maybe her mother) out of the SUV and put them in the helicopter, and we'll see Bond's futile run after it.

    1min 41sec about Bond from Fukunaga tells me that we're about to get a lot of Madeleine Swann coming our way and they just wanted to make sure people knew this was a Bond film about Bond before they start marketing the hell out of Swann.
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    How come his DB5 has 2 M134s, but is ejecting only from the right side?

    Other than that...... CAN'T WAIT!!! when was the premier.... April 3rd?...sh1t... I have to take the ice out of the shaker, they're going to melt before that!!! :s
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    0073 wrote:
    How come his DB5 has 2 M134s, but is ejecting only from the right side?

    Other than that...... CAN'T WAIT!!! when was the premier.... April 3rd?...sh1t... I have to take the ice out of the shaker, they're going to melt before that!!! :s

    Maybe both guns unload down the same chute.

    At 0:35, we see Bond from the back grabbing Maddy's arm. It's clearly a stunt double not Daniel Craig, so is that the intimacy coordinator? Why else would DC not be allowed to grab her arm? B-)
  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    0073 wrote:
    How come his DB5 has 2 M134s, but is ejecting only from the right side?

    Other than that...... CAN'T WAIT!!! when was the premier.... April 3rd?...sh1t... I have to take the ice out of the shaker, they're going to melt before that!!! :s

    I’ve seen another clip where is shows an extended view of the DB5 donut with cartridges being ejected from both sides
  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    Found it, but it’s on a Facebook page.....

    https://www.facebook.com/JamesBond007GB/videos/506134183671911/
  • propcollector22propcollector22 Lake district UKPosts: 72MI6 Agent
    Does this help? one front 1 rear or is it 2 front as the trailer shows !
    (please don't share outside of this site thanks.)

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    Paul
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  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    Revs1972 wrote:

    I’ve seen another clip where is shows an extended view of the DB5 donut with cartridges being ejected from both sides

    So not down the same chute then, nor should they run out of ammo at different pace, unless of course if Bond/ Q has set the right one fire at 2300rnds/min and the left one at higher pace of 3300rnds/min to compensate for the right hand steering of the DB5...

    I know I would, the torque those things create just plays havoc on handling of a fine automobile like the Aston Martin.
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    0073 wrote:
    Revs1972 wrote:

    I’ve seen another clip where is shows an extended view of the DB5 donut with cartridges being ejected from both sides

    So not down the same chute then, nor should they run out of ammo at different pace, unless of course if Bond/ Q has set the right one fire at 2300rnds/min and the left one at higher pace of 3300rnds/min to compensate for the right hand steering of the DB5...

    I know I would, the torque those things create just plays havoc on handling of a fine automobile like the Aston Martin.

    Well, knowing the level of detail SFX go to, it wouldnt surprise me about the different fire rates
  • Mattia De VartiMattia De Varti ItalyPosts: 488MI6 Agent
    https://twitter.com/antovolk
    A new TV spot with some new footage
  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    Does this help? one front 1 rear or is it 2 front as the trailer shows !
    (please don't share outside of this site thanks.)

    LHRO2510.jpg
    https://twitter.com/antovolk
    A new TV spot with some new footage

    Much appreciated, brothers. {[]
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Twitter account @springhousese has tweeted four images including one from the Norwegian cinema chain Facebook 1min teaser that shows a huge transport plane and next to it what looks like the Aston DBS Superleggera.
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1233081411583737857/photo/2
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1233081411583737857?s=20

    The tweet says the base is RAF Brize Norton but in the top left hand corner of the Facebook teaser screengrab there is a huge mountain. It's quite clear from Google maps there is no mountain or mountain range anywhere in that part of the UK.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/RAF+Brize+Norton/@51.5403805,-1.677559,40649a,35y,36.31t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x5b172aaa30d62105!8m2!3d51.761517!4d-1.5834303

    Maybe @springhousese is referring to where they filmed that, but the base in the film can't be in England.

    So, I think we're seeing Bond arrive with Nomi in her Superleggera at a Norwegian air force base after Bond has lost Madeleine to Safin while they tried to retrieve something from Madeleine's mother's villa. Bond might need a plane from Q to get him, his Vantage and Madeleine to Norway before hand, but then Q and Nomi pick him up and use the big transport plane to get the glider to wherever Safin's lair is.
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