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BBC Hardtalk interview with Willie Carlin who was an undercover MI5 spy in Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3csy98m

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I always remember the time Gerry Adams put on show a " Bug " he claimed was in
his car, planted by MI5. As it was bloody enormous I mean it was the size of at least
two blue-ray players with acres of wiring  ajb007/biggrin  I did think at the time, Surely MI5 must
have a smaller Bug than that thing ?
Then again it may have been made so big so that it would be found, as MI5 had so many
agents throughout the Republican network, they had to keep throwing the odd red herring
at the top level of Republicans to explain all the success MI5 etc were having ?

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Reminds me of a scene from Stallone's The Specialist, with an undercover bomb.

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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Have you seen the photo of the baby carriage with the enormous hole for the camera earlier in this thread, TP?  ajb007/lol

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Here it is! Really inconspicious, isn't it?  ajb007/lol


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Thunderpussy wrote:

I always remember the time Gerry Adams put on show a " Bug " he claimed was in
his car, planted by MI5. As it was bloody enormous I mean it was the size of at least
two blue-ray players with acres of wiring  ajb007/biggrin  I did think at the time, Surely MI5 must
have a smaller Bug than that thing ?
Then again it may have been made so big so that it would be found, as MI5 had so many
agents throughout the Republican network, they had to keep throwing the odd red herring
at the top level of Republicans to explain all the success MI5 etc were having ?

That plays for the same results as the KGB habit of breaking into your home and taking a dump in the middle of your living room carpet....  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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A video about celebrities who were also spies. Ian Fleming is first on the list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peElrjxyOs0

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I just started reading The Spy and the Traitor by Ben Macintrye, it's the story of Oleg Gordievsky and his eventual exfil from the clutches of the KGB. Highly recommended!

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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The CIA's Undetectable Poison Dart Gun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7jWBTi … ;index=397

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German Frogmen Attack - Nijmegen Bridge 1944

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1YqVDrqG58

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One of our Boy Scout leaders had been a C-47 pilot in World War II. For about a year he flew diplomatic missions from the UK to Stockholm. He said they would radio the Germans and get everything cleared then start out...He said the strangest part of was being in a bar or restaurant in Sweden with people from the Axis powers and everyone was polite..

"I don't know if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or imbeciles who mean it."-Mark Twain
'Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.'- Benny Hill (1924-1992)

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Your boy scout leader may very well have flown several of the people mentioned in theis thread.

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The Gestapo commander's mistress


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With a headline like this most people don't expect a story about a hero, but Anne Marie Breien was a true hero. She was born on a large farm in the Ringerike region in the south-east of Norway in 1915. Her father employed twenty people on the farm and also buildt up a successful factory. Anne Marie was strong-willed and into sports, so she got her self an education in athletics. In 1938 she continued her education in Germany.  There she witnesed Hitler's regime first hand and she disliked it from the start. She even helped Jews escape to Switzerland. Anne Marie returned to Norway a short time before the German invasion. There she married the lawyer Kjell Langballe. and started her own gym.

After the Germans invaded the country some started building a resistance. Her father was among the first, soon becomeing the distgrict commanderof MILORG, he military wing of the resisitance. Most people called MILORG «the boys in the forest». Her father had two batallions under his command. In 1940 her sister had married a Polish aristocrat and memeber of the Polish exile army there. After the fall of France they escape to Casablanca in Morocco. The couple are interned in a refugee camp in the desert under harsh conditions, but finally they got help from the American consul and traveled to the US. Both of Anne Marie's brothers were active in the resisitance back home.

When the early resistance was formed most people believed an British invasion wasn't far into the future. Of course know that's not what happened. With no British invasion the result was almost inevitable. You can't hide away guerilla units for montsh and years with limited allied support. Many organisations were disrupted and many got arrested. Her father was arrested in 1942 and was in solitary confinement for nine months. A death sentence was in the cards. Anne Marie started working to save him and she wasn't the type to take no for an answer.


"The boys in the forest"
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Finally she got a meeting with Siegfried Wolfgang Fehmer who was leader of a special Gestapo unit working solely with espionage and counter-espionage cases. Late in the war he became the commander of the Gestapo in Oslo. The resistance saw him as one of their most dangerous enemies. He was very good at his job, he used torture extensively and sometimes shoed a sadistic side when he personally took part in some torture sessions. During his meeting with Anne Marie he showed the other sides of his personality, the charmer and womanizer. Fehmer was caprivated by her beauty, but also her strong will and tendecy to speak her mind. They had several long following the first. They discussed their views on the situation, politics and of course her father. She was working him and she found her useful for gauging the mood in the population since she was so outspoken. Her realtionship with the Gestapo officer paid off when her father was released from prison.  Anne Marie spoke to her contact in the resistance and they agreed she should develop the relationship further. Her MILORG contact wrote in in a report after the war: «When she made her desicion it was in the knowledge that the contact [with Fehmer] in my opinion was of such great importance to the resistance personal considerations had to be set aside». After  some time Anne Marie could come and go as she pleased and talk to anyone she wanted to in Gestapo headquarters.


Gestapo headquarters

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After assassinations were carried out by the resistance there were usually followed by exections of civilian hostages. Anne Marie spent a lot of time convincint Fehmer to stop these executions and later they discussed how this could be done. She also worked through Fehmer to stop police raids, get patriotic Norwegians out of prison, consentration camps and death sentences. She also brought letters and food to prisoners. For a long time Fehmer was a «family friend». At least once Fehmer and Anne Marie's went fishing for crayfish together, the Gestapo commander and teh resistance commander together in a small rowing boat». But by 1944 Fehmer told her their relationship couldn't continue if it didn't turn into a sexual realtionship. I took into consideration that the relationship couldn't possibly hurt anybody but myself as long as I not for a moment forgot whos side I was fighting» she wrote after the war. Her marriage had understandably been rocky for quite some time, and that year they got a divorce. He even lived in her house from time to time. Anne did get some sympathy for the Gestapo man, partly because he was really helpful in saving the people she tried to save. He probably knew she had some sort of connection to the resistance, but did nothing to stop it. At one point one of the «boys in the forest» became ill and she told him «You can move in with me, because Fehmer lives there and you'll be safe!» One assumes no-one said the house guest was part of the guerilla he was trying to catch, but he may very well have suspected the truth. That summer her father and one of her brothers were infomed on by a Norwegian nazi. Fehmer released them, claiming this kind of snitching often wasn't well founded and was often had personal motivations.


From the film "Max Manus". hmer dancing with a character based on Anne Marie Breien.

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When the war ended the resisitance were the heroes and darlings of the country and the Germans and Norwegian nazis were hated by most. Fehmer was very much he was a wanted man and he was on the run. It was his relationship to Anna Marie that proved to be his undoing. The police put a wiretap on Anne Marie's phone and struck gold. Earlier Fehmer had given her his German shepherd and he phoned her to ask about the dog. The phone call revealed his location and he was arrested. And what about Anne Marie? The resistance and British police raided her parents' house to find her, then they raided three more houses in the sunny coast of the far south where she had gone on holliday ten days after Germany's surrednder. She was completely unaware she was wanted by the police until a friend in MILORG phoned and told her. Soon she was arrested and charged with treason. She was put in a cell in the medieval Akershus castle where her father had served in prison and she had helped so many more Norwegian patriots. Her MILORG contact made a call and she was released the same afternoon, but the charges weren't dropped until later that summer. But for some reason both the resistance and the authorities didn't say a word to the public about her her work for them and the fact that they had asked her to to be Fehmer's mistress to do that job. One wonders what they would have done if a man had seduced German women to save his countrymen and get infomation? As a «thank you» for her heroics she gets slapped, gets threathening phone calls and is called «German's slut» on the street. She can't show her face in the community she grew up in.


Akershus castle
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Now it's Fehmer who's sitting in a cell in Akershus castle. During his tial Anne Marie is one of the few witnesses who support him. She tells the court how the two of them saved sixty Norwegians. The real number is possibly even higher. Ninety patriots may have been saved by her. But his many crimes, especially the torture, made him one of the most hated men in the country and he was sentenced to death by firing squad.
Anne Marie gets a job at the American embassy in Oslo, but she still experiences  death threats on the phone.and false rumours being spread. In 1946 she moves to her sister in the US. Only a year later both of them move back to the family farm and she got a job in NATO's headquarters there. Again she recieved threats. A journalist even threathened to write about her in the newspaper. In spite of thank you-lettters from people she saved and letters documenting her work from individual MILORG members she gets kicked out of her job. Again she moves to America.

Life is better in America, but she has feelings of bitterness and depression because of the war. On her darkest days she thinks of the people she couldn't save, sometimes becaue of messages that arrived too late. She drinks too much, but after some years she gets help from AA . Anne Marie never re-marries. In 1993 she gives an interview to a Norwegian newspaper, the only time she talked about her experiences to the general public.
In 1981 she was approved for a veteran's pensions, but she never got medal or an official thank you. When she died in 200as she was burried in Norway next to the graves of her family's graves.

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Nancy Wake: Gestapo's Most Wanted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNXKovYM15A

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