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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Is it an actual phone being launched though? I guess that would be too big a thing for a company to move because of someone else's film.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    It would. But on the other hand Nokia and NTTD are supposed to help each other. That's how this kind of thing works best.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    I think you're kind of underestimating how large a process it is to develop, manufacture and ship a product worldwide. It's not about a movie.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,736MI6 Agent
    Continuing to remind people of the film is probably a good thing. I could see the promos in the fall: "The wait is finally over...James Bond is back!!".
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,119MI6 Agent
    The thing with a phone is that it's only the most advanced available for a few months, so delaying its launch for 7 months means the technology won't be quite as sought after as it is now. They could have delayed it and upgraded it for the launch but probably to much already in place.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    Good point.
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,757MI6 Agent
    I think they should release a 10 minute clip (or something similar) from the film online at some point in the next month or so. Perhaps one of the action sequences that wouldn’t spoil any major reveals or plot points. Maybe on the original release date. With everyone basically locked in their homes, they would literally have a captive audience. People would appreciate the diversion, and would likely remember come November.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    It's a fun thought. Unprecedented times; could happen.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    The Nokia ad is only a teaser, the full ad has been postponed until November.
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  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    New german magazines.


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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    Zimmer confirms multiple artists were asked to write the NTTD theme and the article also reveals that Billie Eilish and her brother were shown a rough cut of NTTD while they were making their song with Zimmer's help.
    https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/billie-eilish-interview-james-bond-theme-hans-zimmer.html

    Wonder how rough it was, how many redacted bits there were?

    It's interesting because before Eilish and her brother had said they had read the first act before they wrote the song. I wonder if the song they wrote changed substantially once Zimmer had them watch the rough cut? It would seem to me Zimmer wanted a tone that reflected the film and by showing them the rough cut they would buy into whatever changes he wanted.

    I hope one day some of those other artists' song submissions get leaked. What songs couldn't Zimmer get through the intro for?

    The song didn't change much after he showed them the rough cut. This is what he said, "After strings were added to the track, Zimmer made sure that Eilish and Finneas got to see a full rough cut of the film. That, in turn, led them to add one last piece to the song: that swing Eilish takes at the end, that big kick into “No time to diiiyyyeeee.”

    So showing them the rough cut means that they added one more thing at the end. The song was practically completed before they say the rough cut.
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Billy Magnussen interviewed and his NTTD character name and role are confirmed. See spoiler box if you want to know.
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1241452281733808128?s=20
    CIA agent Logan Ashe

    It seems their letting all the cast interviews to run so one imagines that we'll see a sort of low level of marketing continue right up until the previous release date of 2 April.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Billy Magnussen interviewed and his NTTD character name and role are confirmed. See spoiler box if you want to know.
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1241452281733808128?s=20
    CIA agent Logan Ashe

    It seems their letting all the cast interviews to run so one imagines that we'll see a sort of low level of marketing continue right up until the previous release date of 2 April.

    They have no choice but to run them, all the magazine covers coming out now went to print days before the release date was moved.
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  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    Red_Snow wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    Billy Magnussen interviewed and his NTTD character name and role are confirmed. See spoiler box if you want to know.
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1241452281733808128?s=20
    CIA agent Logan Ashe

    It seems their letting all the cast interviews to run so one imagines that we'll see a sort of low level of marketing continue right up until the previous release date of 2 April.

    They have no choice but to run them, all the magazine covers coming out now went to print days before the release date was moved.

    I was a magazine editor for twenty years. With these monthly magazines (GQ, Cosmo), there was really no other choice but to go forward (and keep in mind that the articles and photo shoots themselves were done months ago, probably just after filming finished). The marketing people at MGM probably were able to stop a few cover pieces but not all of them as the magazines have their own editorial, advertising, production, and printing schedules. Most people don't realize how far ahead these publications work.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    Red_Snow wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    Billy Magnussen interviewed and his NTTD character name and role are confirmed. See spoiler box if you want to know.
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1241452281733808128?s=20
    CIA agent Logan Ashe

    It seems their letting all the cast interviews to run so one imagines that we'll see a sort of low level of marketing continue right up until the previous release date of 2 April.

    They have no choice but to run them, all the magazine covers coming out now went to print days before the release date was moved.

    I was a magazine editor for twenty years. With these monthly magazines (GQ, Cosmo), there was really no other choice but to go forward (and keep in mind that the articles and photo shoots themselves were done months ago, probably just after filming finished). The marketing people at MGM probably were able to stop a few cover pieces but not all of them as the magazines have their own editorial, advertising, production, and printing schedules. Most people don't realize how far ahead these publications work.

    I'm in advertising and I get emails about placing ads in magazines many months before the magazines are published. The magazines tell us at that point what will be featured in those magazines, sometimes in great detail!
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Fukunaga's NTTD is based on a 1960s Japanese film apparently?! Anyone seen Shohei Imamura's film Unholy Desire?
    https://twitter.com/JB007_news/status/1242024531813789697?s=20
  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,150MI6 Agent
    Nice find. However, all I'm reading there is that he said he referenced the film, not 'based' NTTD on it. There's a difference.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    I've never seen the film, but here's the Wikipedia entry. I have no idea what inspired Fukunaga : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unholy_Desire
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    JBR has a new video and Joe Darlington was in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coIOb2jAg1Y&feature=emb_logo
    Darlington spoke about me and heavily implied I wrote he shouldn't talk about Corona in his videos. He said "I must be allowed to have thoughts" and "Maybe he's right. Maybe I shouldn't talk about it". What I actually wrote in my first e-mail to him was the opposite. This is a direct quote using paste: "I think it's only natural when you talk about Corona online. After all it's a big part of our lives now and the virus pushed NTTD back to November."
    I wrote another E-mail today to remind him of this. He denied having misrepresented my views in the video. I'm posting this to set the record straight.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    Don’t take it too personally the both of you. Joe wasn’t as informed at the time in relation to Corona. It had just been picked up on his radar. The post was more about his disappointment in the film being cancelled. I felt the same as I had loads lined up for that week too, and at the same places. Since then things have gone crazy and no one would have predicted this at that time. So my feelings that I had then have a much different perspective. And I was more informed and had a greater idea of where this would go. So look at his vlog more about being a post on Bond than a post on the virus. Different time, different location and a different perspective.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    I have no problems with that. My problem is him giving a completely wrong version of what I wrote to him in not one, but three E-mails.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I've never seen the film, but here's the Wikipedia entry. I have no idea what inspired Fukunaga : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unholy_Desire

    "strong, lower-class women who survive in spite of their oppressive surroundings," well that's Madeleine and growing up a child of a Spectre operative.

    "a common-law husband. After being raped by a thief, she is repeatedly accosted by him as he falls madly in love with her. Stuck between her adulterous, unloving husband and the rapist she struggles to find happiness" Bond is the common-law husband and Safin the rapist.

    TWINE has a villainess who became besotted with her captor, Renard. Maybe Safin is Madeleine's ex-boyfriend/abuser?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    I don't think Madeleine has a lower-class background, but the rest could be right.
  • PaperbillPaperbill FloridaPosts: 810MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Don’t take it too personally the both of you. Joe wasn’t as informed at the time in relation to Corona. It had just been picked up on his radar. The post was more about his disappointment in the film being cancelled. I felt the same as I had loads lined up for that week too, and at the same places. Since then things have gone crazy and no one would have predicted this at that time. So my feelings that I had then have a much different perspective. And I was more informed and had a greater idea of where this would go. So look at his vlog more about being a post on Bond than a post on the virus. Different time, different location and a different perspective.

    Great perspective and I totally concur with you, in light of how things are evolving in the world
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    A good perspective, but not really relevant to my post. It is personal when Joe Darlington gives a false impression of what I wrote to him and claims I have other views than I actually have. It's well documented in my post.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Very good fan made trailer here. I'd imagine we'll get plenty more of these over the next few months.
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1242177167850602503?s=20
  • PaperbillPaperbill FloridaPosts: 810MI6 Agent
    edited March 2020
    Number24 wrote:
    A good perspective, but not really relevant to my post. It is personal when Joe Darlington gives a false impression of what I wrote to him and claims I have other views than I actually have. It's well documented in my post.

    You keep beating this drum, why don't you message Joe directly again? I had no idea he referenced you until YOU started talking about it.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Here's a very good fan made trailer here with an excellent job done with the sound track. I'd imagine we'll get plenty more of these over the next few months.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BKfE76hTJ8&feature=youtu.be

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