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I've always assumed that the Craig films exist in a separate, self-contained continuity. The character of Bond and his motivations are too different in his films compared to others.

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BlindManBaldwin wrote:

I've always assumed that the Craig films exist in a separate, self-contained continuity. The character of Bond and his motivations are too different in his films compared to others.

Craig is certainly in his own continuity. I believe it was Martin Campbell who said they were starting fresh as if there was nothing done before. There's no way Craig's continuity could be connected to the others. The other Bonds could be loosely connected, with Lazenby reminiscing over Connery's missions, Moore visiting Lazenby's wife's grave, Dalton and Brosnan remembering when Lazenby's Bond were married. GoldenEye starts in 1986 before Dalton was Bond, and that could connect the two of them, but that's more of a joke acknowledging when Brosnan was first hired as Bond. All the other Bonds can fit together, but Craig's Bond cannot.

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Someone wrote:

Twitter account Springhousese has posted a translation of a Polish magazine article about NTTD. It has various small spoilers that have already been reported here. The new interesting bits are;

It confirms the Matera DB5 can drop landmines.

It reveals that the second car chase takes place in Norway. So, the SUV chase where Bond becomes separated from Madeleine and left behind as the helicopter flies away is in Norway, suggesting that Bond and Madeleine were going back to her cottage, or had been there.

Safin's family is Russian and he confirms Safin goes to Madeleine's cottage/villa in the PTS.

There are some minor details about the Cuba sequence and the scientist Obruchev. It also explains that they wanted to film in Havana but the authorities wanted too much control, so they simply recreated bits of Havana at Pinewood.

It reveals that Q is out in the field and has with him a mini mobile laboratory. As we don't see Q until after Cuba and he wouldn't need a mobile lab in London for whatever Obruchev is carrying and we appear to see Q on the plane that launches the glider, I can only assume that Q reappears at the military transport plane airfield that Nomi takes Bond too after the SUV chase and Q uses the mini lab then.

It reveals that there are a lot of gadgets in this movie. Q gives Bond a gadget called a Qadar, which I guess is some special RADAR. The film also has high-tech handcuffs (for Blofeld?), a harpoon Bond uses and a machine that injects smart blood into Bond's veins. Maybe the journalist made a mistake there and that is a prop from Spectre or maybe Bond is injected before he gets in the glider?

Never really was a big fan of the new Q so this news kinda has me bummed. But I am excited to see exactly how the Qadar works. Perhaps it locates the nanomachines in Bond and Nomi's bodies, allowing them to always have a tab on each other during their raid on Safin's lair. Or perhaps it detects enemies? Very interested to hear about this gadget, especially with the reintroduction of the Smart Blood and how that ties into certain...theories I have about Spectre and NTTD.

Also excited to hear more about Valdo and Safin. Seems like Valdo isn't only a purely hapless scientist in need of rescuing.

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Matt S wrote:
BlindManBaldwin wrote:

I've always assumed that the Craig films exist in a separate, self-contained continuity. The character of Bond and his motivations are too different in his films compared to others.

Craig is certainly in his own continuity. I believe it was Martin Campbell who said they were starting fresh as if there was nothing done before. There's no way Craig's continuity could be connected to the others. The other Bonds could be loosely connected, with Lazenby reminiscing over Connery's missions, Moore visiting Lazenby's wife's grave, Dalton and Brosnan remembering when Lazenby's Bond were married. GoldenEye starts in 1986 before Dalton was Bond, and that could connect the two of them, but that's more of a joke acknowledging when Brosnan was first hired as Bond. All the other Bonds can fit together, but Craig's Bond cannot.


Totally agree with Craigs Bond not being prequels. I'd like to see how they'd explain Moneypenny and Felix Leiter.

Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope

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Mr Martini wrote:
Matt S wrote:
BlindManBaldwin wrote:

I've always assumed that the Craig films exist in a separate, self-contained continuity. The character of Bond and his motivations are too different in his films compared to others.

Craig is certainly in his own continuity. I believe it was Martin Campbell who said they were starting fresh as if there was nothing done before. There's no way Craig's continuity could be connected to the others. The other Bonds could be loosely connected, with Lazenby reminiscing over Connery's missions, Moore visiting Lazenby's wife's grave, Dalton and Brosnan remembering when Lazenby's Bond were married. GoldenEye starts in 1986 before Dalton was Bond, and that could connect the two of them, but that's more of a joke acknowledging when Brosnan was first hired as Bond. All the other Bonds can fit together, but Craig's Bond cannot.


Totally agree with Craigs Bond not being prequels. I'd like to see how they'd explain Moneypenny and Felix Leiter.

Technically there's no debate here. When they made Casino Royale they said they were starting fresh. I think people like to come up with other ideas for their own amusement. Just like the codename theory, which makes no sense. Occam's razor says all these theories are wrong. It's cool to come up with 'what ifs', but nobody who isn't making Bond films can change the reality.

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They made Blofeld Bond's foster brother. Anything is possible.

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Atrocious! That's akin to hiring a continuation writer to craft a prequel to Casino Royale!

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Someone wrote:

They made Blofeld Bond's foster brother. Anything is possible.

Blofeld wasn't Bond's foster brother until they made him into that. Until something is retconned, the old truth still stands.

And Blofeld of the older films is not Bond's foster brother. What has happened in Craig's films has not changed the old films, only Craig's films. Until they say otherwise, any other scenarios are fan fiction.

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I still can’t believe the foster brother angle or how bad Spectre was. NTTD won’t have to do much to be better than Spectre.

Yes. Considerably!

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New image of Q in his lab

https://i.postimg.cc/v4Pms2gt/20200505-115242.jpg

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Mattia De Varti wrote:

New image of Q in his lab

https://i.postimg.cc/v4Pms2gt/20200505-115242.jpg

Wow you really scooped everybody with that one.

I wonder if that burnt thing to Q's left is the remains of something from the chemical weapons lab attack?

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Someone wrote:

I wonder if that burnt thing to Q's left is the remains of something from the chemical weapons lab attack?

I didn't think about that but it could very well be a possibility. From the other photos we've seen in Q's lab, he seems to wear a completely different outfit

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Mattia De Varti wrote:
Someone wrote:

I wonder if that burnt thing to Q's left is the remains of something from the chemical weapons lab attack?

I didn't think about that but it could very well be a possibility. From the other photos we've seen in Q's lab, he seems to wear a completely different outfit

Yeah, I've been wondering that too. What could the burnt drive mean? As well as the chess set? Judging from the pillar on the right this appears to potentially be the lab we've seen in earlier shots, however the hair and attire look completely different from anything we've already seen.

Another thing: there seems to be a LOT of Q-centric promotional material for NTTD. He seems to be everywhere, from the watch, the 'interview' trailer, to him being present when no other MI6 regular is on the final poster. I wonder if something will happen to him? Not to mention we see the masked figure in the trailers peeking through corrugated glass doors that resemble the ones to his flat...

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phantomvices wrote:

Another thing: there seems to be a LOT of Q-centric promotional material for NTTD. He seems to be everywhere, from the watch, the 'interview' trailer, to him being present when no other MI6 regular is on the final poster. I wonder if something will happen to him? Not to mention we see the masked figure in the trailers peeking through corrugated glass doors that resemble the ones to his flat...

Ben Whishaw's name's location in the credits indicated that he would have a larger role and also what we know of NTTD suggests that they are using a lot of ideas that didn't make it into the Spectre script (which we know of due to the Sony email leaks) and those unused ideas saw a larger role for Q. We also know that there are lots of gadgets in this movie.

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Someone wrote:
phantomvices wrote:

Another thing: there seems to be a LOT of Q-centric promotional material for NTTD. He seems to be everywhere, from the watch, the 'interview' trailer, to him being present when no other MI6 regular is on the final poster. I wonder if something will happen to him? Not to mention we see the masked figure in the trailers peeking through corrugated glass doors that resemble the ones to his flat...

Ben Whishaw's name's location in the credits indicated that he would have a larger role and also what we know of NTTD suggests that they are using a lot of ideas that didn't make it into the Spectre script (which we know of due to the Sony email leaks) and those unused ideas saw a larger role for Q. We also know that there are lots of gadgets in this movie.

I've seen the Sony leaks and there was supposed to be a plotline where Q gets captured from his room in the Pevsner and is found when Blofeld decides to leave them both to die in the desert crater, with Q only then revealing that the watch was explosive. Even though I'm not a big fan of the new Q I'm inclined to say that I would have much preferred the leak plotline to play out as it gives Q's original line of 'it tells the time' much more weight, as well as not immediately throwing it away with the clearly shoehorned dialogue about the bomb in the watch, and the eventual use of the explosive would've made for a much tenser scene.

To be honest I'm really hoping NTTD is the last time we see this Whishaw's Q. Unless he can begin to recapture the charm of previous Q's I really do not like his whole 'nerdy gadget-making hacker' schtick. Maybe this time around, they do use the 'Q gets captured' line, but it goes the way of Felix in LTK.

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phantomvices wrote:

To be honest I'm really hoping NTTD is the last time we see this Whishaw's Q. Unless he can begin to recapture the charm of previous Q's I really do not like his whole 'nerdy gadget-making hacker' schtick. Maybe this time around, they do use the 'Q gets captured' line, but it goes the way of Felix in LTK.

There have been hints along the way that Q is going to meet his maker and Whishaw has certainly indicated that he is "done" with Bond. But that could be a pay negotiating tactic. ;-)
https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/968955/#p968955

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I was just reminded that NTTD won't be the first to feature a car chase on The Atlantic road. Børning 2 was first in 2016, and it looked good!   ajb007/biggrin

Trailer: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1iUAmjYHV7A/U … ebilde.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1iUAmjYHV7A/U-0J9oMGjSI/AAAAAAAADBc/68p9tQmGcbQ/s1600/børning-forsidebilde.jpg

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That's a jpeg ajb007/smile

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So it is … sorry. Here we go again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibJl6Me68cw
For a while we thought/hoped NTTD was filming on the Trollstigen road, but it was the sequel Børnign 3.

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That looks quite fun ajb007/smile

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It is! Less muscles and fewer great stunts than F & F, but a lot more charm and humor.

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I enjoyed watching @TheBondExperience's video on the suits of NTTD, and the mystery suit David Zaritsky was sent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jytB5UxX7vI&t=2s

Thinking it through I wonder if it's a wedding suit for the PTS - we have been told its the longest PTS - or maybe when Bond goes to Norway with Madeleine he's wearing it then before he goes all casual for the car chase, or, more controversially it's the suit Bond is buried in at the end...

PTS - no Bond?
Matera - cordoroy suit
Jamaica - casual
Cuba - casual and a tux
London - known suit
Norway (with Madeleine) - maybe here?
Norway car chase - casual
Lair infiltration - military

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Craig's films all have a coda with him in a suit, so that's a possibility. And unless you've read the script or seen the film, there are likely to be scenes we don't know about, scenes filmed inside the studio that nobody ever had a look at.

It's impossible to guess where in the film he's going to wear this suit, but we may be able to guess some of the purpose. This mystery suit has some stretch in the fabric, which leads me to think it may be used for action. Then again, it may have stretch because Craig's body is difficult to tailor for, and stretch makes the suit easier to fit regardless of how he wears it.

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A lot of new Greg Williams BTS, unfortunately still watermarked. Thanks to @Contraband from MI6 community. Here's the link:
https://www.picturedesk.com/bild-disp/s … 423bac61e4

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Mattia De Varti wrote:

A lot of new Greg Williams BTS, unfortunately still watermarked. Thanks to @Contraband from MI6 community. Here's the link:
https://www.picturedesk.com/bild-disp/s … 423bac61e4

Great photos! (Especially of Ana IMO.) My first thought is that it'll be hard to use them to ID any unknown clothes, etc. Then I realized how much I was underestimating some of the detectives here on AJB.