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Barbel wrote:
Gymkata wrote:
Number24 wrote:

Stamper is the poor man's Red Grant. I'd say Necros was better.

I've seen blocks of cedar that have more presence than Stamper.  He's such a non-entity, even with that Dolph Lundgren chin going on.

He beats Necros hands down

Necros could take on other personas and infiltrate a MI6 safe house. All Stamper does is fighting and having bleached hair.  ajb007/lol

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I think Brosnan is fantastic as Bond in this film. I love how it deliberately echoes TSWLM and YOLT. The music is the best Bond had had in years.
The counter-argument is that it’s “Bond by the numbers” but sometimes that is the way to go (eg TSWLM) and as long as you get those numbers right then it works.
It’s a shame Brosnan himself doesn’t think highly of this (or TWINE).

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Higgins wrote:

Nope, prefer Stamper.

Because he‘s german and not austrian

I agree, Gotz Otto owns the scenes he is in and his character is seen as ruthless.
Although Necros is decent, there is too little of him to make home memorable as a character.

Stamper is at the centre of TND.  Necros doesn’t know who his real boss was as we didn’t!

This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?

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Barbel wrote:

I think Brosnan is fantastic as Bond in this film. I love how it deliberately echoes TSWLM and YOLT. The music is the best Bond had had in years.
The counter-argument is that it’s “Bond by the numbers” but sometimes that is the way to go (eg TSWLM) and as long as you get those numbers right then it works.
It’s a shame Brosnan himself doesn’t think highly of this (or TWINE).

Honestly, while I prefer the direction (especially the action direction) of GE, I think that this one may be Brosnan's best outing as Bond.  It's very solid and delivers the goods, and I think that Brosnan does his best overall work as Bond in this movie.

Current rankings:
OHMSS>FRWL>CR>TSWLM>YOLT>MR>SF>FYEO>GE>OP>DN>
TWINE>TND>QOS>TB>TMWTGG>GF>LALD>TLD>AVTAK>SP>DAF>LTK>DAD
Bond rankings: Lazenby>Moore>Connery>Craig>Brosnan>Dalton

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Barbel wrote:

Music “Surrender” Sung by kd lang. Arnold submitted this for the title song, but it was relegated to the end titles. Total, total pastiche of John Barry/James Bond songs done gloriously over the top.

Absolutely. Love it (except for those electronic primal burping/farting sounds. Arnold used these, too, in his 'Thunderball' on 'Shaken And Stirred' and even in 'No Good About Goodbye' with Shirley Bassey).

Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 49 years.

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Well, that was damn good, really enjoyed that  ajb007/martini

One of us smells like a tart's handkerchief.

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I think TND is a good entry, but it suffers from average action scenes (there's a couple of exceptions) and forgettable henchmen.
The music is great and Michelle Yeoh is a staqndout in the action scenes.

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Shady Tree wrote:

and even in 'No Good About Goodbye' with Shirley Bassey).

Don't get me started, now....

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Yours truely on the backseat!

https://share-your-photo.com/img/984b493658.jpg

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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Gymkata wrote:
Barbel wrote:

I think Brosnan is fantastic as Bond in this film. I love how it deliberately echoes TSWLM and YOLT. The music is the best Bond had had in years.
The counter-argument is that it’s “Bond by the numbers” but sometimes that is the way to go (eg TSWLM) and as long as you get those numbers right then it works.
It’s a shame Brosnan himself doesn’t think highly of this (or TWINE).

Honestly, while I prefer the direction (especially the action direction) of GE, I think that this one may be Brosnan's best outing as Bond.  It's very solid and delivers the goods, and I think that Brosnan does his best overall work as Bond in this movie.

I think it’s a fantastic film and even one of my personal favs of the series. The plot is relatively “real world” even today, the action was quite enjoyable, Brosnan did a great job and Yeoh gave us a “Bond girl” that kicked ass! A great rewatch and I’m glad I was part of it  ajb007/martini

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Higgins wrote:

Yours truely on the backseat!

Back seat driving is the main theme of TND  ajb007/biggrin

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Higgins wrote:

Yours truely on the backseat!

I think I see you now—there is a bit of green hue coming from the back there  ajb007/wink

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Higgins wrote:

Yours truely on the backseat!

https://share-your-photo.com/img/984b493658.jpg

Impressive and invisable. Pity we can't see the green trainers!

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Barbel wrote:

I think Brosnan is fantastic as Bond in this film. I love how it deliberately echoes TSWLM and YOLT. The music is the best Bond had had in years.
The counter-argument is that it’s “Bond by the numbers” but sometimes that is the way to go (eg TSWLM) and as long as you get those numbers right then it works.
It’s a shame Brosnan himself doesn’t think highly of this (or TWINE).

Agreed. I think Brosnan's acting in the scene with Schiavelli is his best in the series ('serious'/dangerous Bond, but playing against a comic grotesque). My main issue is that the silver steely sheen of the production design and the techno aesthetic start to feel a bit samey. But in 1997 we were getting back some traditional 'fun' stuff in the broad style of a Lewis Gilbert Bond, for the first time in a long while.

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Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 49 years.

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Number24 wrote:
Higgins wrote:

Yours truely on the backseat!

https://share-your-photo.com/img/984b493658.jpg

Impressive and inviable. Pity we can't see the green trainers!

Cool ajb007/smile

Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 49 years.

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As ever, a big thank you to Higgins for being the man behind this but this time for also being IN the movie!

I have of course thoroughly enjoyed our evening watching Bond together and look forward to the next one. Thanks to everyone for contributing and especially to Gymkata for the gifs.

Brosnan was a fine Bond, not necessarily at the top of anyone's list but never at the bottom. This is IMHO the closest he came to a "classic" Bond and he performed very well. It's not my favourite of his Bonds (that's the next one) but it can hold its head up.

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Shady Tree wrote:
Number24 wrote:
Higgins wrote:

Yours truely on the backseat!

https://share-your-photo.com/img/984b493658.jpg

Impressive and inviable. Pity we can't see the green trainers!

Cool ajb007/smile

I'm envious too!

Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 49 years.

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so...TWINE next?

Current rankings:
OHMSS>FRWL>CR>TSWLM>YOLT>MR>SF>FYEO>GE>OP>DN>
TWINE>TND>QOS>TB>TMWTGG>GF>LALD>TLD>AVTAK>SP>DAF>LTK>DAD
Bond rankings: Lazenby>Moore>Connery>Craig>Brosnan>Dalton

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Gymkata wrote:

so...TWINE next?

While I love that film, it's Higgins' call.

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As noted earlier, I have soft spot for TND. 

I was a student and the world was a lot simpler and easier both within the industry and out.
The film has aged well - replace the destroyers with modern Daring class and the media tech, it could be today....

The film does paint Bond by numbers, but that is not a bad thing. Films would become more convoluted, and today are seemingly brain dead. Bond has not escaped that influence.
In this film we have a damned good story, great set pieces. Teri Hatcher is an odd fit, and it shows, but the rest of the cast shine.

Bond would do no harm in heading back in this direction again...

This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?

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Thunderbird 2 wrote:

As noted earlier, I have soft spot for TND. 

I was a student and the world was a lot simpler and easier both within the industry and out.
The film has aged well - replace the destroyers with modern Daring class and the media tech, it could be today....

The film does paint Bond by numbers, but that is not a bad thing. Films would become more convoluted, and today are seemingly brain dead. Bond has not escaped that influence.
In this film we have a damned good story, great set pieces. Teri Hatcher is an odd fit, and it shows, but the rest of the cast shine.

Bond would do no harm in heading back in this direction again...

I agree totally

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Barbel wrote:
Gymkata wrote:

so...TWINE next?

While I love that film, it's Higgins' call.

Just a suggestion, but perhaps we should keep the last of our Brosnans on ice and go for another decade next time...?

Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 49 years.

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Shady Tree wrote:

Just a suggestion, but perhaps we should keep the last of our Brosnans on ice and go for another decade next time...?

Makes sense imo - also doing the same with Craig's first 2.
So in my opinion, we should continue with TB for a final round.

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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I agree

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Gymkata, we need more Daphne Deckers .gifs and Cecilie Thomsen as well, please

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------