AJB live commentary on TND

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Yours truely on the backseat!

    Back seat driving is the main theme of TND :D
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Yours truely on the backseat!

    I think I see you now—there is a bit of green hue coming from the back there ;)
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Yours truely on the backseat!

    984b493658.jpg

    Impressive and invisable. Pity we can't see the green trainers!
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,965MI6 Agent
    edited May 2020
    Barbel wrote:
    I think Brosnan is fantastic as Bond in this film. I love how it deliberately echoes TSWLM and YOLT. The music is the best Bond had had in years.
    The counter-argument is that it’s “Bond by the numbers” but sometimes that is the way to go (eg TSWLM) and as long as you get those numbers right then it works.
    It’s a shame Brosnan himself doesn’t think highly of this (or TWINE).

    Agreed. I think Brosnan's acting in the scene with Schiavelli is his best in the series ('serious'/dangerous Bond, but playing against a comic grotesque). My main issue is that the silver steely sheen of the production design and the techno aesthetic start to feel a bit samey. But in 1997 we were getting back some traditional 'fun' stuff in the broad style of a Lewis Gilbert Bond, for the first time in a long while.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,965MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    Yours truely on the backseat!

    984b493658.jpg

    Impressive and inviable. Pity we can't see the green trainers!

    Cool :)
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    As ever, a big thank you to Higgins for being the man behind this but this time for also being IN the movie!

    I have of course thoroughly enjoyed our evening watching Bond together and look forward to the next one. Thanks to everyone for contributing and especially to Gymkata for the gifs.

    Brosnan was a fine Bond, not necessarily at the top of anyone's list but never at the bottom. This is IMHO the closest he came to a "classic" Bond and he performed very well. It's not my favourite of his Bonds (that's the next one) but it can hold its head up.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,965MI6 Agent
    Shady Tree wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    Yours truely on the backseat!

    984b493658.jpg

    Impressive and inviable. Pity we can't see the green trainers!

    Cool :)
    I'm envious too!
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Gymkata wrote:
    so...TWINE next?

    While I love that film, it's Higgins' call.
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,774MI6 Agent
    As noted earlier, I have soft spot for TND.

    I was a student and the world was a lot simpler and easier both within the industry and out.
    The film has aged well - replace the destroyers with modern Daring class and the media tech, it could be today....

    The film does paint Bond by numbers, but that is not a bad thing. Films would become more convoluted, and today are seemingly brain dead. Bond has not escaped that influence.
    In this film we have a damned good story, great set pieces. Teri Hatcher is an odd fit, and it shows, but the rest of the cast shine.

    Bond would do no harm in heading back in this direction again...
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    As noted earlier, I have soft spot for TND.

    I was a student and the world was a lot simpler and easier both within the industry and out.
    The film has aged well - replace the destroyers with modern Daring class and the media tech, it could be today....

    The film does paint Bond by numbers, but that is not a bad thing. Films would become more convoluted, and today are seemingly brain dead. Bond has not escaped that influence.
    In this film we have a damned good story, great set pieces. Teri Hatcher is an odd fit, and it shows, but the rest of the cast shine.

    Bond would do no harm in heading back in this direction again...

    I agree totally
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,965MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Gymkata wrote:
    so...TWINE next?

    While I love that film, it's Higgins' call.

    Just a suggestion, but perhaps we should keep the last of our Brosnans on ice and go for another decade next time...?
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Shady Tree wrote:
    Just a suggestion, but perhaps we should keep the last of our Brosnans on ice and go for another decade next time...?

    Makes sense imo - also doing the same with Craig's first 2.
    So in my opinion, we should continue with TB for a final round.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    I agree
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Gymkata, we need more Daphne Deckers .gifs and Cecilie Thomsen as well, please
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    TB suits me- as long as you guys don't mind me having virtual orgasms at

    (a) John Barry's music

    (b) Connery's sheer presence

    (c) Luciana Paluzzi

    In fact, I'm afraid that my whole contributions might be "Oh yes" "Again" and so forth
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    so nothing else than what we've heard from you over weeks now? 8-)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    TB is full of scenes of simply Sean Connery walking. You'll see it on watching the movie. Terence Young and Connery were inspired by John Huston's The Maltese Falcon which is similarly full of scenes where Bogart simply walks across a room. The idea was that this would show you (the audience) what kind of man he was without dialogue- and above this the dialogue in both films is witty and characterful.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    so nothing else than what we've heard from you over weeks now? 8-)

    Being correct doesn't change.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,965MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    TB is full of scenes of simply Sean Connery walking. You'll see it on watching the movie. Terence Young and Connery were inspired by John Huston's The Maltese Falcon which is similarly full of scenes where Bogart simply walks across a room. The idea was that this would show you (the audience) what kind of man he was without dialogue- and above this the dialogue in both films is witty and characterful.

    And the good thing about this is that, if we can only get the walk right, any of us can be James Bond - with some John Barry mood music playing in our minds as a background score!
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    :)) But of course!
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Shady Tree wrote:
    Geoffrey Palmer (the Admiral) and Judi Dench had starred as husband and wife in a Brit sitcom (title escapes me)

    As Time Goes By


    Bond version: As Time Goes Die.

    If they'd kept making Brosnan films I reckon they would have used that one :)
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Brosnan looks incredilbly Bondian in the hotel :007) :007)

    I remember going to my cousin's wedding reception and realising that the disco I was dancing to had been set up in that room (or perhaps it was the matching one upstairs)!

    Same location as Layer Cake (starring our Dan) and that Goldfinger film of course.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    "Another Carver building. If I didn't know better I'd say he's got an Edipus complex?

    Edipus??

    'Edifice complex'. It's a pun on 'Oedipus complex', but nods towards him building big edifices to himself in the form of huge buildings with his face on.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Gymkata wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    No Bond girl does action better than Wai Lin

    She really, really should have come back in DAD for a cameo. I know they looked into doing it but it really should have happened. I think she had great chemistry with Brosnan and her character held her own throughout the entire film (only getting 'damsel in distressed' at the very end because Bond).

    If you pause the documentary on the DAD disc you can read a page or two of her planned appearance when they show a close up of the script.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Looking back, TND has some really good dialogues!

    „His job“ comes to mind or „I‘ll be right back“
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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